Riot over lawn parking continues… [UPDATED]

Barcham 3 April 2013 67

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This will require a little work for those not keeping up with today’s drama. First go to this thread. It’s Monday’s bad parking photos, pay special attention to this photo:

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Rioter pptvb had this to say in the comments:

Oh, this is GOLD!
@ #11. I have a fair idea who placed the sticker on your car.
It is one of many pissed off neighbours.
Your “lawn” is actually the nature strip between the foot path & the road. You and other residents of your units constantly park there and it is dangerous.
Your vehicles block the view of cars turning out of Castley Cr. as the approaching traffic is coming over a slight rise & around a slight bend.
We have spoken to many residents about their parking, and the dangers, Parking inspectors have issued tickets, Yet laziness prevails over common sense.

Rant Over.

( I will send photos of your “lawn” to JB )

There was more said on the subject, but Pptvb was good to his word and sent us pictures. There’s one up top, and here’s another:
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What’s the verdict Rioters? Is this an ok place to park, and if it’s not is sticking stickers to other people’s cars going too far?

Our original anonymous posted has responded.

For the benefit of Pptvb, the car stickered and posted on the RA was not parked in any locations he (or she) has described and taken photos of. I’m not so sure it was on a “nature strip” either as there is no footpath between the house and kerb where I got stickered and it was not on Castley Cct either. Regardless someone still thought it was parked ‘illegally’ though.

Please Mr angry sticker phantom next time maybe just put a note under the wipers or in the letterbox instead. That was the first I knew of a unoccupied vehicles causing such offense in the area and to me the reaction seemed out-of-line and probably illegal also.

Thanks again RA and apologies for bringing some silly neighbourhood argument to the site.

Never apologise anonymous Rioter, the RiotACT is here to serve… and to argue about parking.


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pptvb pptvb 3:30 pm 02 Apr 13

Right or wrong, the stickers seemed to have worked.
Previously there have been up to 7 cars parked all over this nature strip, though lately it is only the occasional one.
These units have secure parking underneath, but the extra 10m must be too much effort.

RB78 RB78 3:38 pm 02 Apr 13

I used to live nearby. That’s a busy intersection as the IGA is directly opposite.

The cars are parked in a bad spot as people tend to speed along that small crest on Boddington Cr and you don’t have much visibility to the right when turning from Castley. I saw a number of near misses at that intersection and recall there was a head on smash further up the crest (between the two ends of Crozier) once too.

I understand parking might be at a premium in a complex but parking where they are is reducing what is already limited visibility.

gungsuperstar gungsuperstar 3:41 pm 02 Apr 13

No, vigilante action in the form of defacing someone else’s car is not alright.

Call Canberra Connect and get them to send a ranger if it bothers you that much.

Perhaps I could just let myself into my neighbours place and punch them in the mouth so they’ll stop yelling at each other?

kea kea 3:41 pm 02 Apr 13

Coulda named and shamed them on Monday’s parking fiasco thread first. Or even a nice note on the windscreen.. those pesky owners corp love to throw their weight around..

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 3:43 pm 02 Apr 13

Wouldnt it be easier just to have a chat first? Possibly risking your self injury by sticking things to others cars.

Grail Grail 3:54 pm 02 Apr 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Wouldnt it be easier just to have a chat first? Possibly risking your self injury by sticking things to others cars.

Wouldn’t it be easier to read the article before commenting? Possibly risking answering your question before committing a vacuous display of your incompetence in written communication?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:56 pm 02 Apr 13

gungsuperstar said :

No, vigilante action in the form of defacing someone else’s car is not alright.

Call Canberra Connect and get them to send a ranger if it bothers you that much.

Perhaps I could just let myself into my neighbours place and punch them in the mouth so they’ll stop yelling at each other?

You can’t tell the difference between putting a sticker on an illegally (and dangerously) parked car and punching someone in the mouth?

Grail Grail 3:56 pm 02 Apr 13

FWIW, it’s illegal to do anything other than maintenance with a nature strip: no gardens, no landscaping, no rocks, no parking. For landscaping requirements you can get a permit if you apply to the appropriate authority.

In the meantime, here’s an interesting read from the Crimes.

pptvb pptvb 3:58 pm 02 Apr 13

gungsuperstar said :

No, vigilante action in the form of defacing someone else’s car is not alright.

Call Canberra Connect and get them to send a ranger if it bothers you that much.

Perhaps I could just let myself into my neighbours place and punch them in the mouth so they’ll stop yelling at each other?

We called the rangers….”not their problem, call the Police ”
Called the Police ” Call the parking inspectors”
Called Parking Operations, Tickets were issued.
A week later the cars were back.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Wouldnt it be easier just to have a chat first? Possibly risking your self injury by sticking things to others cars.

Tried that too.
Replies included: “We’re not parking, just stopping for a while”, “What’s it got to do with you?”, “Fuck Off”.

Grail Grail 4:03 pm 02 Apr 13

gungsuperstar said :

Call Canberra Connect and get them to send a ranger if it bothers you that much.

Perhaps I could just let myself into my neighbours place and punch them in the mouth so they’ll stop yelling at each other?

How does physical assault even remotely compare to leaving a note on the windscreen?

Someone’s going to learn the hard way that whining to The RiotACT in order to gain support for your side in a private argument is going to end in tears. I would not be surprised to find this kerb is patrolled by parking rangers twice a week for the next few months.

PBO PBO 4:07 pm 02 Apr 13

pptvb said :

Wouldnt it be easier just to have a chat first? Possibly risking your self injury by sticking things to others cars.

Tried that too.
Replies included: “We’re not parking, just stopping for a while”, “What’s it got to do with you?”, “Fuck Off”.

Sounds like this street has a chronic case of the “DEALERS!!!!!”

magiccar9 magiccar9 4:08 pm 02 Apr 13

My problem would be with the Toyota. I reckon he would be too close to the road and thus impeding the view over the crest and also looking right from the IGA intersection. I think the other cars would be far enough from the road not to cause any issues (except if they were then on the footpath).

I think that the stickers being used just plain rude if – as the guy who had one stuck to his car stated – they don’t come off easily. You never have the right to do that to someones property no matter how they are parked. If you don’t like it, talk to the owner or report it to the authorities.
What would happen if the couldn’t get it off from their windscreen and they had an accident as a result? I’d like to have the sticker bandit held responsible in that case.

tim_c tim_c 4:15 pm 02 Apr 13

It is illegal to park on a nature strip.

As smeeagain posted in “the other thread”:
Australian Road Rules 197 (1) a driver must not stop on a bicycle path, footpath, shared path or dividing strip or a NATURE STRIP adjacent to a length of road in a built-up area unless a parking control sign applies.

The ACT Government also lists parking a vehicle as a prohibited “use” of the nature strip:
http://www.tams.act.gov.au/city-services/public_land_use/nature_strips

basketofcat basketofcat 4:21 pm 02 Apr 13

Or the cars’ owners could park their cars down at Vic and Ric’s?

What was ACTPLA thinking when they approved this DA? Surely they would know that increasing the density of these houses and being priced at the point where the residents would have multiple cars would lead to a situation like this.

I haven’t been there for ages, is there a similar situation at Bateman and Boddington? iirc that house got knocked down too and some 2 storey townhouses went up.

Mysteryman Mysteryman 4:30 pm 02 Apr 13

As mentioned by others, it’s illegal. Doesn’t matter if anyone thinks it’s ok or not. The law is pretty clear.

I’d like to know where the stickers came from. Would love to purchase some!

buzz819 buzz819 4:39 pm 02 Apr 13

Mysteryman said :

As mentioned by others, it’s illegal. Doesn’t matter if anyone thinks it’s ok or not. The law is pretty clear.

I’d like to know where the stickers came from. Would love to purchase some!

It’s also illegal to deface someone else’s property.

Hint. deface is changing it in a way that is not permanent.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 5:10 pm 02 Apr 13

No, it’s not an okay place to park.

No, it’s not okay to deface someone else’s property.

mezza76 mezza76 5:22 pm 02 Apr 13

It’s not just unit parking that’s the issue. Out in the northern suburbs – it’s largely ‘lifestyle’ choices that lead to cars parking on nature strips and reserves. Almost all cars parked on nature strips are due to having boats in driveways or garages stacked full of crap and storage.

In my townhouse complex – almost no cars park in their double lock up garages – they all park on the street and allow their garages to be stoage zones or home businesses.

While I do dream about complaining – I fear it would make the issue worse. People might just put their crap out on the nature strip and put their car into the garage…

m00nee m00nee 5:36 pm 02 Apr 13

buzz819 said :

It’s also illegal to deface someone else’s property.

Hint. deface is changing it in a way that is not permanent.

Deface (verb) 1. to mar the surface or appearance of; disfigure: eg, to deface a wall by writing on it.
2.to efface, obliterate, or injure the surface of, as to make illegible or invalid: eg. to deface a bond.

Not sure where “not permanent” comes into it.

I’m all for it. The locals have obviously tried everything they could to get the residents to act in a way that is both legal and considerate. I’m waiting for the next installment when they put the stickers directly in front of the drivers seat, held on with same stuff they used to use on rego stickers.

gungsuperstar gungsuperstar 6:18 pm 02 Apr 13

Jim Jones said :

You can’t tell the difference between putting a sticker on an illegally (and dangerously) parked car and punching someone in the mouth?

Grail said :

How does physical assault even remotely compare to leaving a note on the windscreen?

Ah, so now we’re distinguishing between acts of vigilantism?

Nup, doesn’t work that way I’m afraid. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and the people defacing other peoples cars with stickers that neighbours are proudly bragging are hard to get off is no no better law-breaking behaviour than the people parking there in the first place.

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