25 May 2011

Road Rage Attack. Information wanted

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I would like Canberrans assistance in tracking down a particular motor vehicle. The four occupants of this vehicle attacked my wife and young child in a road rage attack a few weeks ago on the Monaro Highway.

At approximately 10:30pm on a Saturday evening, my wife was travelling eastbound along Hindmarsh Drive when in her rear view mirror she saw a late model silver Holden Commodore SS approaching at extremely high speed. The vehicle passed her and then swerved quickly in front of her into the lane she was occupying in order to pass a car in the other lane almost causing her to run off the road. The silver Commodore then continued along Hindmarsh Drive at high speed, driving erratically and dangerously around other vehicles.

At the intersection of Hindmarsh Drive and the Monaro Highway, the Commodore was stopped at a red arrow waiting to turn right and southbound toward Tuggeranong. As my wife’s car drew alongside their vehicle, her only mistake was to glance across at the occupants of the vehicle. Upon doing this, two of the passengers wound down the windows and started abusing her, yelling out “what the f*** are you looking at b****” and making other sexually explicit threats toward her. My wife ignored their taunts and when the arrow turned green she turned right to head down the Monaro Highway toward Tuggeranong.

The Commodore and its occupants then proceeded to tailgate her with their high beam lights on. After a few kilometres, they passed her at high speed and pulled in front of her, forcing her car off the road. Upon coming to a stop the four occupants of the Commodore got out of the vehicle, with two of them armed with what appeared to be a small bat and a small crowbar, and began hitting my wife’s vehicle with these objects and their fists with considerable force. The verbal threats continued, telling her to get out of the car while trying to gain access through the doors which were thankfully locked.

One of the occupants then struck the rear quarter window with one of their weapons with such force that it shattered showering glass all over our 4 month old baby, who was in a baby capsule in the back seat. At this time another vehicle was approaching the scene and upon seeing this the occupants of the Commodore all returned to their vehicle and left at high speed.

My wife called the police to report the incident immediately. The police attended the scene and took details.

In following this matter up, we have unfortunately been advised by the police that the registered owner of the vehicle is no longer at the address listed on his registration and license. As a result, the police can do very little until they catch up with the car and driver.

As a result, I would like to see whether this community can help in identifying the car and driver. The car was a silver late model Holden Commodore SS with ACT registration ***-***. It had red P-Plates displayed in the top right hand corner of the rear window. The four occupants were all males and aged between approximately 17 to 19 years of age.

If by any remote chance anyone knows of this vehicle or where it is garaged, see this vehicle on Canberra’s roads, or know the owner and where he lives, could you please pass this information onto me. There is considerable damage to my wife’s vehicle plus the police are very keen to catch up with these youths considering the nature of their attack on my wife and 4 month old child.

I know that this is a long shot, but I do not want to see these youths get away with such an unprovoked attack on an innocent woman and infant and have it potentially happen to someone else.

UPDATE: The highest levels of ACT Policing are now following this up and gmckay424 should check his email and get in touch with them. We’ve decided to suppress the rego details until the bottom has been got to.

FURTHER UPDATE: This statement from ACT Policing:

A comprehensive search of ACT Policing indices has yielded nil results for the incident as described.

Police would urge the original complainant in this matter to contact ACT Policing Operations on 131-444.”

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Jazz said :

just because it wasnt reported to the police didnt mean that the incident didnt occur, or that the issue of road rage isnt a valuable topic to discuss

Let this one go……………………..too many inconsistencies. But you are right in that the issue of ‘road rage’ as a topic is important. It’s just that this one has a permanent odour about it.

just because it wasnt reported to the police didnt mean that the incident didnt occur, or that the issue of road rage isnt a valuable topic to discuss

ThatUniStudent9:46 am 10 Jun 11

I can’t belive this thread is till going on! This so reminds me of the old Dole Army story ACA did years ago. Some people got taken hook line and sinker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxVk5L_J-BQ

jonnie_boy said :

Guess who pretty much ran me off the road tonight…..a SS commodore silver with I am sure the same rego which has now been supressed by the boys in blue.

I in turn followed the vehicle back an address in Isabella Plains.

If you have no luck with the Police and require this information please let me know, information can only be used to be supplied to the police to follow up of course……

Get your facts straight. Johnboy removed the rego when it was suspected (and later confirmed) to be a fake post.

Again, the story in the OP was never reported to police. It did not happen. Having said that, the car is real (I’ve seen it too) and the p plate driver is an idiot (he nearly side swiped me long before the OP was posted). Maybe his rego should be reposted…

Guess who pretty much ran me off the road tonight…..a SS commodore silver with I am sure the same rego which has now been supressed by the boys in blue.

I in turn followed the vehicle back an address in Isabella Plains.

If you have no luck with the Police and require this information please let me know, information can only be used to be supplied to the police to follow up of course……

GordonResidential8:19 am 07 Jun 11

Diggety said :

Tooks said :

… seen the OP was outed as a fake several days ago ……

Yeah, like hello?

All these gullible commenters left ……

Which post?

Tooks said :

If you weren’t part retarded, you would’ve seen the OP was outed as a fake several days ago and let the thread die. Instead you’ve guaranteed it will live on. Well played!

Yeah, like hello?

All these gullible commenters left this post with their tail between their legs AGES ago. Pfft.

Ms Thumper was run off the road by some maniac in a late model red ford last night near Coppins Crossing. I have the rego but after this fiasco I won’t be posting it.

I think most of us would believe you Thumper.

Deref said :

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

Perhaps if you’d spent more time doing actual schoolwork than playing sport you’d be able to write a grammatical sentence.

+1

Captain RAAF said :

Ms Thumper was run off the road by some maniac in a late model red ford last night near Coppins Crossing. I have the rego but after this fiasco I won’t be posting it.

What did the Police say when you reported it?

Apparently the driver was a teenager with downsyndrome who’s also a very important community member who has represented Australia on a national level.

That or some f$ckwit bogan.

Also, if you spend lots of money on a Commodore – you really are a very special type of bogan.

Ms Thumper was run off the road by some maniac in a late model red ford last night near Coppins Crossing. I have the rego but after this fiasco I won’t be posting it.

Hope that she’s okay – this place is getting insane!

Captain RAAF9:26 am 03 Jun 11

Ms Thumper was run off the road by some maniac in a late model red ford last night near Coppins Crossing. I have the rego but after this fiasco I won’t be posting it.

What did the Police say when you reported it?

Sorry to hear that Thumper – hope all is okay.

As for this post – I think we’ve got trolls on our trolls. Still, that’s speculation. In fact, it’s what some of us might refer to as BIG RUMOURS MADE UP.

RE arguments about the Police – it’s all too easy to for Monday morning experts to criticise these men and women for a job that most of us couldn’t or wouldn’t do. If you’re unhappy with the responsiveness and service of your local five-oh then write to your local member – they ultimately have access to the purse strings that will result in more coppers on the beat and improved safety for the community.

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

Perhaps if you’d spent more time doing actual schoolwork than playing sport you’d be able to write a grammatical sentence.

More red herrings than a Jonathan Creek TV special.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Antagonist said :

bubbles123 said :

FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I don’t ever like to underestimate a person’s potential, but seriously? A 17 year old kid with Downs is able to get a drivers licence? And has a job that allows him to buy a late series bogan-mobile, fuel it, rego it and maintain it? While I am sure a Downs kid is quite capable of many things, I am having a little trouble believing this one. More power to him should it be the truth, however unlikely that might be!

The 19th Century called and want’s its ignorance back.

I think you are confusing ignorance with reality. If the average 17 year old kid cannot afford to buy, run, rego and maintain a LATE MODEL bogan-mobile, then the average 17 year old Downs kid has even less chance. Unless mummy and daddy are filthy fkn rich.

What about the other Commodore parked on the grassy knoll, and the black helicopter that was seen hovering nearby???

Open your eyes, people – the truth will be told!!!!!

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

I’m sure you have a valid point, but man you seem dumb!

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

If you weren’t part retarded, you would’ve seen the OP was outed as a fake several days ago and let the thread die. Instead you’ve guaranteed it will live on. Well played!

Just when you think it’s done and dusted… This thread has gone from making me gasp in shock to then making me question what is wrong with people.. and now I’m just laughing at the mess! I hate to say it but this level of trolling…. is kind of awesome.

Down-syndrome? Oh the twists and turns!

Holden Caulfield4:41 pm 02 Jun 11

Classified said :

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

Awesome 🙂

I think you mean AWESSOME.

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

Awesome 🙂

sillisilly1 said :

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

He’s a Commodore driver, and just because he hasn’t done this despicable act doesn’t mean he won’t. It’s only a matter of time. Commodore drivers would all beat up on pregnant women and the elderly before they had their coco-pops in the morning if they could get away with it.

When is the State going to stop fart-arsing around with skippies and conduct a proper Commodore cull for the sake of the community? That’s what I want to know.

You guys honestly have nothing better to do. Believe the story this person didn’t do this FULL EFFING STOP . Call the police if you want so much to talk about! Pretty sure ive represented australia and my community in lots of sports and cancer council etc. do you see me flashing a ferarri ? obviously this person likes a Commodore. and i know what this car looks like its is done up very nicely not some S**** bomb commodore. Get over yourselves AND yes people get away with murder these days, but Im laughing at the fact your spending so much of your time writing on forums about a big rumour made up and continuing to believe it. IDIOTSS

Muttsybignuts3:10 pm 02 Jun 11

sillisilly1 said :

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

People get away with murder in this town however I’m not sure about VERY BIG RUMOURS.

Captain RAAF said :

sillisilly1 said :

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

Whoever this posse is that’s trying to shift people’s suspicion away from the car in question……is failing miserably!

You can say that again!

Captain RAAF said :

sillisilly1 said :

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

Whoever this posse is that’s trying to shift people’s suspicion away from the car in question……is failing miserably!

+1

Captain RAAF said :

sillisilly1 said :

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

Whoever this posse is that’s trying to shift people’s suspicion away from the car in question……is failing miserably!

True.

A well respected person in the community who has represented Australia driving a Commodore?

It just doesn’t add up.

Captain RAAF2:17 pm 02 Jun 11

sillisilly1 said :

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

Whoever this posse is that’s trying to shift people’s suspicion away from the car in question……is failing miserably!

colourful sydney racing identity11:52 am 02 Jun 11

Antagonist said :

bubbles123 said :

FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I don’t ever like to underestimate a person’s potential, but seriously? A 17 year old kid with Downs is able to get a drivers licence? And has a job that allows him to buy a late series bogan-mobile, fuel it, rego it and maintain it? While I am sure a Downs kid is quite capable of many things, I am having a little trouble believing this one. More power to him should it be the truth, however unlikely that might be!

The 19th Century called and want’s its ignorance back.

bubbles123 said :

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I dont know what the downsydnrome is all about because this person doesnt have that. trying to strengthen your argument maybe
But i do know this person and they are innocent this story is fake. This person is actually a well respected person in the community and has represented australia in quite a few spots. i have spoken to this persons family and police are investigating this as it is a VERY BIG RUMOUR MADE

Antagonist said :

bubbles123 said :

FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I don’t ever like to underestimate a person’s potential, but seriously? A 17 year old kid with Downs is able to get a drivers licence? And has a job that allows him to buy a late series bogan-mobile, fuel it, rego it and maintain it? While I am sure a Downs kid is quite capable of many things, I am having a little trouble believing this one. More power to him should it be the truth, however unlikely that might be!

I think I’ve actually seen this vehicle, and the guy driving it was acting like a dick. Weaving in and out of traffic, heaps faster than he should have been, etc.

Shouldn’t have a license or a car. Where the hell are the parents?

bubbles123 said :

FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

I don’t ever like to underestimate a person’s potential, but seriously? A 17 year old kid with Downs is able to get a drivers licence? And has a job that allows him to buy a late series bogan-mobile, fuel it, rego it and maintain it? While I am sure a Downs kid is quite capable of many things, I am having a little trouble believing this one. More power to him should it be the truth, however unlikely that might be!

EVERYBODYS ATTENTION PLEASE: This story is not real i know the person who owns this car. Police are investigating because some twat made it up to get back at this person. You call the police and i guarantee there was no report made to the police from this “lady who got terrorised”. Please stop stressing, we all need to hope that the police track down the person who made this up because its not fair people can get away with making up rumours FYI the person who owns this number plate rego and car is a 17 year old who has Downsyndrome. Now you tell me a person like that would go and do something like this .PATHETIC

MITTCA said :

Hi Everyone.

This incident did not happen it is a made up story, Police operations have no report of this incident and did not attended a scene like the one described.

I think that is very childish to make up a story like this, it could lead to an innocent person getting hurt or hurting someone else.

& you know this how?

Hi Everyone.

This incident did not happen it is a made up story, Police operations have no report of this incident and did not attended a scene like the one described.

I think that is very childish to make up a story like this, it could lead to an innocent person getting hurt or hurting someone else.

Holden Caulfield12:03 pm 30 May 11

FireGiggles said :

I’m so sorry to hear this story and it makes me so mad knowing that people do this!
On a smiliar note my partner (now 21) was out with his friends, and they were driving up outtrim and they beeped two cars. Well wasnt that a stupid idea? those two cars chased him, and then when my partner out ran them, they called two more cars and eventually caught my partner and his friends and pulled them out of the car and interegated them, threatening to bash them.. my partner was VERY confused, until the police were called and it was explained to them that some girls egged their cars and these “tough guys” assumed it was my partner. I was very disappointed that all this happened over a stupid egg.

But not as furious as I was when myself, my partner, my brother and my ONE YEAR OLD were driving down the parkway from Belco to Tuggers and my partner overtook these guys in a green customised ute because they were doing 60 in the 100 zone. Well this pissed them off didnt it? so they tailgated us, would speed up and cut us off, then back off and tailgate us again. Until they were driving next to us and threw a glass bottle at the car. which was WAYYY TOO CLOSE to going through the window that my son’s baby capsule was located, that he was sitting in. Then they proceeded to follow us to Calwell, where they pulled over and motioned us to do the same, my partner slowed down (it was right next to the turn we needed to take) and we noticed one of them was holding a baseball bat.

I am FURIOUS that people act like this! ESPECIALLY when CHILDREN are in the car.

Firstly, get over yourself about the children in the car thing, the idiots don’t give a shit, so I can’t see why you’d think it would make a difference to them.

While not quite as extreme I usually experience a tailgating at least once whenever I drive to Sydney (or during any freeway driving, really).

I have cruise control so can be confident my speed is constant within 1-2km/h, so if someone catches up to you, why don’t they just keep going and pass?

After a minute or two if said tailgater hasn’t overtaken me I’ll normally just give the accelerator a bit of a squirt to build up a gap, or switch off the cruise and coast until my speed reaches a point that they become bored into overtaking.

If they still can’t get the hint%u2014it never ceases to amaze at how thick some drivers are%u2014then I will simply pull over to the side of the road and stop for a few moments. I know I should probably do that right from the start, but anyway%u2026

I suggest pulling over and letting the green ute continue on its merry way would have been the best approach. It adds less than a minute to your commute time and it’s more than likely the protagonists will drive off celebrating their pyrrhic victory. You’ll save a lot of stress and have forgotten about it all not long after.

colourful sydney racing identity10:39 am 30 May 11

FireGiggles said :

.

But not as furious as I was when myself, my partner, my brother and my ONE YEAR OLD were driving down the parkway from Belco to Tuggers and my partner overtook these guys in a green customised ute because they were doing 60 in the 100 zone. Well this pissed them off didnt it? so they tailgated us, would speed up and cut us off, then back off and tailgate us again. Until they were driving next to us and threw a glass bottle at the car. which was WAYYY TOO CLOSE to going through the window that my son’s baby capsule was located, that he was sitting in. Then they proceeded to follow us to Calwell, where they pulled over and motioned us to do the same, my partner slowed down (it was right next to the turn we needed to take) and we noticed one of them was holding a baseball bat.

I am FURIOUS that people act like this! ESPECIALLY when CHILDREN are in the car.

and what did the police say when you reported this?

I’m so sorry to hear this story and it makes me so mad knowing that people do this!
On a smiliar note my partner (now 21) was out with his friends, and they were driving up outtrim and they beeped two cars. Well wasnt that a stupid idea? those two cars chased him, and then when my partner out ran them, they called two more cars and eventually caught my partner and his friends and pulled them out of the car and interegated them, threatening to bash them.. my partner was VERY confused, until the police were called and it was explained to them that some girls egged their cars and these “tough guys” assumed it was my partner. I was very disappointed that all this happened over a stupid egg.

But not as furious as I was when myself, my partner, my brother and my ONE YEAR OLD were driving down the parkway from Belco to Tuggers and my partner overtook these guys in a green customised ute because they were doing 60 in the 100 zone. Well this pissed them off didnt it? so they tailgated us, would speed up and cut us off, then back off and tailgate us again. Until they were driving next to us and threw a glass bottle at the car. which was WAYYY TOO CLOSE to going through the window that my son’s baby capsule was located, that he was sitting in. Then they proceeded to follow us to Calwell, where they pulled over and motioned us to do the same, my partner slowed down (it was right next to the turn we needed to take) and we noticed one of them was holding a baseball bat.

I am FURIOUS that people act like this! ESPECIALLY when CHILDREN are in the car.

Typhoon said :

buzz819 said :

I’m interested in hearing more about this, how did the assault occur? By vehicle description I assume you gave them a registration plate?

What was the outcome that Police gave you? They found the car, couldn’t find the car, an interstate person, couldn’t identify an offender, or your version of assault is not their version, etc? Give me something more then they are lazy or don’t care.

O.K, yes, the police were given a complete description of the offender and the vehicle (with registration of course) and with an hour of being given the description, acknowledged that someone fitting this description was “known” to police. As I said in my first post, independent witnesses corroborated my explanation to police.
After going straight in to Woden station and making the report immediately after work, and being asked back in two more times so the officer could correct mistakes they made with dates and times etc, I heard nothing more about it, except two calls over the next few months from the victims of crime unit or similar. On both occasions I asked about progress, was promised someone would call and never heard a thing more.

I don’t know how long ago your incident was, but you should follow up and get an explanation as to why you were not contacted/updated and why it was not explained to you the reasons for not proceeding. As a victim of crime, you should be updated as to the status of your case (whether it proceeds to prosecution or not). This is what I’m talking about regarding making them accountable. If it is a case of lazy/sloppy police work, then make those responsible accountable for their (in)actions.

Typhoon said :

I know the police weren’t too busy immediately after this incident too, as I saw a police vehicle go past me with lights on

So based on your description above, they were busy. Getting to a job that they felt the need required emergency lights.

Hosinator said :

Rather than deploying the AFP overseas all the time, they need to clean up their own backyard in Canberra.

You do know the difference between the AFP and ACT Policing don’t you?

Typhoon said :

buzz819 said :

Every time an offender gets away with violent cats like this, it encourages more if this behaviour.

Man I hate violent cats! They’re the worst kind!

buzz819 said :

I’m interested in hearing more about this, how did the assault occur? By vehicle description I assume you gave them a registration plate?

What was the outcome that Police gave you? They found the car, couldn’t find the car, an interstate person, couldn’t identify an offender, or your version of assault is not their version, etc? Give me something more then they are lazy or don’t care.

O.K, yes, the police were given a complete description of the offender and the vehicle (with registration of course) and with an hour of being given the description, acknowledged that someone fitting this description was “known” to police. As I said in my first post, independent witnesses corroborated my explanation to police.
After going straight in to Woden station and making the report immediately after work, and being asked back in two more times so the officer could correct mistakes they made with dates and times etc, I heard nothing more about it, except two calls over the next few months from the victims of crime unit or similar. On both occasions I asked about progress, was promised someone would call and never heard a thing more.
So, I’m sure it’s nice to blindly defend the police and think they’re doing a great job, but frankly, too many times they are proven not to be doing anything, let alone something vaguely approximating their job descriptions. I don’t know, maybe it makes the general public feel safer by telling themselves that someone will be there when they need the? I know for sure from this and previous experiences that you are on your own for probably 10 minutes after an event like this, so be prepared to deal with it yourself.
I don’t know how people can make comments like “too busy doing more important things” etc, what is more important than violent assaults on public roads? Murders?
I know the police weren’t too busy immediately after this incident too, as I saw a police vehicle go past me with lights on as I was belting down Hindmarsh drive trying to put some space between me and this psychopath, who had shouted that he would run me down as I got on my bike.
Every time an offender gets away with violent cats like this, it encourages more if this behaviour. If the police were serious, they’d attempt to prosecute every case, instead of bleating “too hard”.

facet said :

Tooks said of Evan James:

“People like you, Evan James, who consistently offer nothing but weak, snide comments, really add nothing to the debate, so why bother commenting?”

This is from a guy who purports to be an AFP spokesperson.

Comments like these from Tooks are the sort of response I got when I tried to follow up my own road rage incident.

For the record Tooks I ceased being a “mouth breather” when I commenced sleep apnea treatment.

I guess I just don’t respect your authority.

Hah – the whole thing was a hoax and you’re here arguing that the police are crap.

I think the word I’m searching for is … pwned!

LeatherJen said :

facet said :

Tooks said of Evan James:

“People like you, Evan James, who consistently offer nothing but weak, snide comments, really add nothing to the debate, so why bother commenting?”

This is from a guy who purports to be an AFP spokesperson.

Comments like these from Tooks are the sort of response I got when I tried to follow up my own road rage incident.

For the record Tooks I ceased being a “mouth breather” when I commenced sleep apnea treatment.

I guess I just don’t respect your authority.

I’ve been lurking on site site for a long time. One thing I note about our police representatives is that whenever someone suggests the police have done a poor job, there are immediately excuses for it, and that it is absolutely impossible that the police have dropped the ball. It does them, and the police, no favours.

Let me be clear about this. I am not a police representative nor do I purport to be. I don’t offer excuses, I offer possible alternatives as to why something may have occurred. To me it’s about different viewpoints about a given situation and making people think a bit before automatically allocating a scapegoat which may or may not be fair. The point of this is that sometimes police mess up, but alternatively, sometimes people think they’ve stuffed up when they haven’t.

If you’re a lurker, then you’ve probably seen me acknowledge many many times that police mess up (they are not perfect) and that people should complain when this happens. I’ve repeated my call for people to complain about unsatisfatory police work time and time again. Not a very good representative, am I? Fact is, I want a police force which constantly looks to maintain a high standard and to nip problems in the bud as they arise. If people don’t raise the issues, then how can this happen? That’s my main gripe with people like my blacklisted friend, facet. I was genuinely interested in hearing how the police justified not going ahead with his particular road rage incident. Instead, all I got in return from him are pathetic and lame attempts to bait me.

BTW, if you wonder why I’m somewhat sceptical about some of the stories posted on this site, then look no further than the OP in this thread, which is a hoax – one that pulled a lot of people in (including me, before I had time to really think about it).

The other thing you may have noted is that they’re not actually police representatives – I’d call them advocates, if anything.

facet said :

Tooks said of Evan James:

“People like you, Evan James, who consistently offer nothing but weak, snide comments, really add nothing to the debate, so why bother commenting?”

This is from a guy who purports to be an AFP spokesperson.

Comments like these from Tooks are the sort of response I got when I tried to follow up my own road rage incident.

For the record Tooks I ceased being a “mouth breather” when I commenced sleep apnea treatment.

I guess I just don’t respect your authority.

I’ve been lurking on site site for a long time. One thing I note about our police representatives is that whenever someone suggests the police have done a poor job, there are immediately excuses for it, and that it is absolutely impossible that the police have dropped the ball. It does them, and the police, no favours.

Tooks said of Evan James:

“People like you, Evan James, who consistently offer nothing but weak, snide comments, really add nothing to the debate, so why bother commenting?”

This is from a guy who purports to be an AFP spokesperson.

Comments like these from Tooks are the sort of response I got when I tried to follow up my own road rage incident.

For the record Tooks I ceased being a “mouth breather” when I commenced sleep apnea treatment.

I guess I just don’t respect your authority.

ACT police have no record of this incident. Which means it’s most likely completely made up and gmckay424 should explain themselves.

“My wife called the police to report the incident immediately. The police attended the scene and took details” – liar, liar, pants on fire!

Hi There,

I posted a link on my FB account and one of my friends posted this back:

i seen that vehicle parked up across from the CIT in woden near the hospital on hindmarsh dr parked on the middle median strip this morning at about 11am!!!!!!!!

Hope this helps!!

EvanJames said :

Face it folks. Anyone writing detailed accounts of how the police failed (repeatedly) are WRONG, making it up, or probably criminals themselves. You’ve been told.

Didn’t you make a fool of yourself last week with stupid comments like these? Where’s the detailed accounts you speak of? I could give a highly detailed account of the time I slept with Jennifer Hawkins – does that mean it’s the truth? I’m a bit dubious when someone gives the absolute minimum of detail to back up their point. I will say in hindsight I wouldn’t have added the part where I said it sounds made up (although that’s how it sounded to me), but I qualified my comment by saying this:

I’m not suggesting you’re lying about the incidents themselves, but perhaps exaggerating the response time,

I’m sorry, I just find it hard to believe that someone had to stay with a dead body for two hours, waiting for police (and presumably ambulance?). If Hosinator was being 100% honest and accurate with his two stories, then I offer him my apologies.

Either way, as usual you (EJ) missed the main point I was making, which is why don’t all these stories of police incompetence result in complaints or at the very least, a please explain? To have a major gripe against police (or any other organisation for that matter) and not do anything to make them accountable, instead choosing to have a whinge on the internet, is weak, pointless, and pathetic.

People like you, Evan James, who consistently offer nothing but weak, snide comments, really add nothing to the debate, so why bother commenting?

As for the OP, the story lost most of its credibility – despite being very detailed – when he lied about the incident being reported to police. It’s clear he had another agenda for posting the story in the first place – I doubt we’ll ever find out what that is.

Face it folks. Anyone writing detailed accounts of how the police failed (repeatedly) are WRONG, making it up, or probably criminals themselves. You’ve been told.

You shouldn’t have to follow up a call to the police. They should contact the person making the call and advise when they will be onsite, better yet have enough resources to deal with your everyday policing matters.

I didn’t suggest people should have to make a follow up call to police. Where did that come from? I explained there is a priority system which means they attend the most urgent jobs first. Makes sense, no? As for insufficient resources, whose fault is that?

I won’t address your other points, because frankly, they sound made up (an hour to arrive for offenders at the scene – and they were caught anyway? 2 hours for a death in public?). I’m not suggesting you’re lying about the incidents themselves, but perhaps exaggerating the response time. Anyway, in both your examples the results wouldn’t have changed had they arrived within 5 minutes, would they? The offenders would still be caught and the unfortunate jogger would still be dead.

However, if they are true and you didn’t exaggerate, then I’d be interested to hear the outcome of the complaints you made? What, you didn’t complain? How are you going to make them accountable for their ‘woeful’ actions then? Serious question. People often have these horror tales of police inaction, but what gets me is if they are true, then how are they brought to account if the issue is never raised?

Tooks said :

Mysteryman said :

Ez said :

…A good friend of mine had her car damaged two years ago by some morons in an unregistered white VL. They drove between her and another car at speed through a red light and the car scraped all down the side of her car. When she rang Police and gave them the rego they said there was nothing they could do as the car was unregistered. She later spotted the car parked at an automotive service centre near Erindale College;-0 and rang the police who said they’d send a car. 2 hours later she left in disgust as no-one turned up…

I had a similar experience with the police in Tuggeranong a few years back. I was working in a shop on Friday night when a man drove into the car park out the front in a ute. He parked across 3 spaces, and it took him about 2 minutes to get out of the car. He stumbled inside, and wandered around the shop. It was quite obvious he was drunk. He couldn’t speak properly and he smelt of alcohol. After he had been there for 5 minutes, I kept him busy and instructed the other staff member to contact the police. We didn’t want this guy driving home and killing himself or someone else on the way. The police station was literally 600m away. They could have walked over in less than 5 minutes – 30 seconds by car, tops. We asked them to hurry and they told us they’d send someone straight over to take care of it. I kept the customer busy for nearly 30 minutes in the vain hope that the police would actually do something about it. They never showed up.

If police are busy, they are unlikely to be hanging around in the station waiting for a job to come in. The priority system exists for a reason, and while I applaud your actions in calling the police and trying to stall the driver (and would encourage you to do the same in future), it is quite possible patrols were tied up with something more urgent.

You shouldn’t have to follow up a call to the police. They should contact the person making the call and advise when they will be onsite, better yet have enough resources to deal with your everyday policing matters.

I’ve contacted the police when there was a crime in progress, thankfully the crims took their sweet time because when the cops showed up 1 hour later the crims were still there.
Another time I called them after finding a still warm body in bushland, it turned out it was a jogger who died of a heart attack, but it took them 2 hours to respond.

That in my books is woeful. In the US I know for a fact you would receive a response for many of the instances listed in a matter of minutes in most similar sized cities.

Rather than deploying the AFP overseas all the time, they need to clean up their own backyard in Canberra.

yo i seen that vehicle parked up across from the CIT in woden near the hospital on hindmarsh dr parked on the middle median strip this morning at about 11am!!!!!!!!

There is no place for these morons! They have to get petrol somewhere though…put up a notice at all the service stations and perhaps contact the station owners and ask them and their staff to be on alert & notify police? Maybe even mechanics & panelbeater workshops? Hope this is helpful gmckay424.

That is an horrific incident involving your two most precious people. I live down that way and will keep an eye out for the car and report it.

Mysteryman said :

Ez said :

…A good friend of mine had her car damaged two years ago by some morons in an unregistered white VL. They drove between her and another car at speed through a red light and the car scraped all down the side of her car. When she rang Police and gave them the rego they said there was nothing they could do as the car was unregistered. She later spotted the car parked at an automotive service centre near Erindale College;-0 and rang the police who said they’d send a car. 2 hours later she left in disgust as no-one turned up…

I had a similar experience with the police in Tuggeranong a few years back. I was working in a shop on Friday night when a man drove into the car park out the front in a ute. He parked across 3 spaces, and it took him about 2 minutes to get out of the car. He stumbled inside, and wandered around the shop. It was quite obvious he was drunk. He couldn’t speak properly and he smelt of alcohol. After he had been there for 5 minutes, I kept him busy and instructed the other staff member to contact the police. We didn’t want this guy driving home and killing himself or someone else on the way. The police station was literally 600m away. They could have walked over in less than 5 minutes – 30 seconds by car, tops. We asked them to hurry and they told us they’d send someone straight over to take care of it. I kept the customer busy for nearly 30 minutes in the vain hope that the police would actually do something about it. They never showed up.

If police are busy, they are unlikely to be hanging around in the station waiting for a job to come in. The priority system exists for a reason, and while I applaud your actions in calling the police and trying to stall the driver (and would encourage you to do the same in future), it is quite possible patrols were tied up with something more urgent.

Mysteryman said :

Ez said :

…A good friend of mine had her car damaged two years ago by some morons in an unregistered white VL. They drove between her and another car at speed through a red light and the car scraped all down the side of her car. When she rang Police and gave them the rego they said there was nothing they could do as the car was unregistered. She later spotted the car parked at an automotive service centre near Erindale College;-0 and rang the police who said they’d send a car. 2 hours later she left in disgust as no-one turned up…

I had a similar experience with the police in Tuggeranong a few years back. I was working in a shop on Friday night when a man drove into the car park out the front in a ute. He parked across 3 spaces, and it took him about 2 minutes to get out of the car. He stumbled inside, and wandered around the shop. It was quite obvious he was drunk. He couldn’t speak properly and he smelt of alcohol. After he had been there for 5 minutes, I kept him busy and instructed the other staff member to contact the police. We didn’t want this guy driving home and killing himself or someone else on the way. The police station was literally 600m away. They could have walked over in less than 5 minutes – 30 seconds by car, tops. We asked them to hurry and they told us they’d send someone straight over to take care of it. I kept the customer busy for nearly 30 minutes in the vain hope that the police would actually do something about it. They never showed up.

Did you follow up to find out why?

Maybe all patrols were tied up with higher priority incidents ???? Just because the Police station is 600mts away, doesn’t mean there is responding police there. They may be at other jobs.

Your situation you describe is not good enough, Police should have responded (if it is 100% truth) but there may have been a reason for it, or maybe not. If it was me, I certainly would have followed up why there was a no show.

I would be interested to know if in all these apparent no shows by Police, if these people ever followed up why and if they did, what the reason was.

Ez said :

…A good friend of mine had her car damaged two years ago by some morons in an unregistered white VL. They drove between her and another car at speed through a red light and the car scraped all down the side of her car. When she rang Police and gave them the rego they said there was nothing they could do as the car was unregistered. She later spotted the car parked at an automotive service centre near Erindale College;-0 and rang the police who said they’d send a car. 2 hours later she left in disgust as no-one turned up…

I had a similar experience with the police in Tuggeranong a few years back. I was working in a shop on Friday night when a man drove into the car park out the front in a ute. He parked across 3 spaces, and it took him about 2 minutes to get out of the car. He stumbled inside, and wandered around the shop. It was quite obvious he was drunk. He couldn’t speak properly and he smelt of alcohol. After he had been there for 5 minutes, I kept him busy and instructed the other staff member to contact the police. We didn’t want this guy driving home and killing himself or someone else on the way. The police station was literally 600m away. They could have walked over in less than 5 minutes – 30 seconds by car, tops. We asked them to hurry and they told us they’d send someone straight over to take care of it. I kept the customer busy for nearly 30 minutes in the vain hope that the police would actually do something about it. They never showed up.

creative_canberran4:57 pm 23 May 11

Terrible behaviour. I’ve seen examples where occupants of vehicles seem to deliberately bate a response form other drivers too. Would seem there may be drivers on the road who are actually looking for an excuse to do something. Driving erratically to slow traffic behind for example while constantly looking in back mirror being a recent example.
Given in this case there were multiple occupants who had access to objects capable of doing damage, can’t help thinking maybe they were looking for an excuse to do something. Some real sickos out there.

I had a guy visit me who had a similar story, got chased and punched in the face for tooting a car at a green light.

I’ve been chased and abused by two 25yr old drunk guys in a ute because i looked at them as I passed and shook my head as the driver was drinking a beer!

A good friend of mine had her car damaged two years ago by some morons in an unregistered white VL. They drove between her and another car at speed through a red light and the car scraped all down the side of her car. When she rang Police and gave them the rego they said there was nothing they could do as the car was unregistered. She later spotted the car parked at an automotive service centre near Erindale College;-0 and rang the police who said they’d send a car. 2 hours later she left in disgust as no-one turned up. She spoke to the owner of the establishment but he denied knowing anything about the car despite it being parked there (she believes it belonged to one of the young employees)

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Several years ago, whilst having issues with a stalker, I recieved a call late at night from the AFP informing me that my car had just been involved in an accident…(amusing anecdote)…

In addition, most people who move forward their mail. While a dodgy person might ignore a letter from the police about such a thing, you would expect if the reported rego number belongs to a genuinely innocent individual they would respond quickly to a letter about it.

colourful sydney racing identity2:00 pm 23 May 11

Several years ago, whilst having issues with a stalker, I recieved a call late at night from the AFP informing me that my car had just been involved in an accident – I was a little surprised as I had just parked it. My initial thought was that it wasn’t the police, so I informed them that it wasn’t invovled in an accident and someone must have been winding them up.

I then rang the police and they confirmed that it was them that called and that they had done so following a report by a member of the public. I asked them how they had my mobile number and they informed me that they get all that info from their rego data base.

Given this, I am quite surprised that CC1234’s father has not recieved a call and that (according to the OP) the police have said that they can’t do anything about it because the person the vehicle is registered to has moved house.

Chief Ten Beers said :

buzz819 said :

Chief Ten Beers said :

Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.

So if someone is renting, moves house with no forwarding address and hasn’t changed, rego, or electoral roll and moves into a group house, the Police can still find them? What miracle way would you use to find them?

What do they do, knock on every door in Canberra until they find them?

Hope you don’t join the Police anytime soon. God help us all if you do.

Good response, well thought out, thorough, yet lacks any substance or appeal.

So how do you go about finding a driver of a car, with maybe the wrong rego and nothing else to go on?

Chief Ten Beers said :

buzz819 said :

Chief Ten Beers said :

Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.

So if someone is renting, moves house with no forwarding address and hasn’t changed, rego, or electoral roll and moves into a group house, the Police can still find them? What miracle way would you use to find them?

What do they do, knock on every door in Canberra until they find them?

Hope you don’t join the Police anytime soon. God help us all if you do.

And yet you don’t provide a solution yourself …… with a comment like that, one would presume you have the answer, so do tell???

Chief Ten Beers6:24 pm 22 May 11

buzz819 said :

Chief Ten Beers said :

Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.

So if someone is renting, moves house with no forwarding address and hasn’t changed, rego, or electoral roll and moves into a group house, the Police can still find them? What miracle way would you use to find them?

What do they do, knock on every door in Canberra until they find them?

Hope you don’t join the Police anytime soon. God help us all if you do.

Tooks said :

facet said :

Tooks said :
Okay, champ. Ignore the points I made and make a childish anti-police comment, ignoring the obvious fact that police put people before court every day for assault. If you’re going to behave like an obnoxious, mouth-breathing cretin in response to a reasonable comment (in which I was trying to be constructive), then do me a favour and don’t bother replying at all.

I assume you are just another example of AFP’s finest.

So you’re not going to respond to my original post in any meaningful way? No worries.

Well did u expect anything less ……… if u cant reply with common sense and well thought out, unbiased replies, come back with insults. That always works 😉

shadow boxer5:36 pm 22 May 11

Yeh I’m no expert, it;s a pretty clear accusation of criminal behaviour. I would assume if you owned the said car, and it wasn’t you, you would be angry.

JB peobably deals with these things every day and posted it so it;s probably o.k.

facet said :

Tooks said :
Okay, champ. Ignore the points I made and make a childish anti-police comment, ignoring the obvious fact that police put people before court every day for assault. If you’re going to behave like an obnoxious, mouth-breathing cretin in response to a reasonable comment (in which I was trying to be constructive), then do me a favour and don’t bother replying at all.

I assume you are just another example of AFP’s finest.

So you’re not going to respond to my original post in any meaningful way? No worries.

ThatUniStudent4:38 pm 22 May 11

CC1234 said :

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

A breach of the privacy act requires something which can identify you being published. As clearly no one here has been able to locate the car, clearly no one has been able to identify you.
Say, is your name Gerldine by any chance? http://the-riotact.com/pictures-released-of-dfo-blaggers/33644

shadow boxer said :

If it’s wrong I reckon the original post is actionable.

add in the other post that mentions it (from April) that was cited early in the comments… I hardly think the publishing of a vehicle number plate is illegal though… it is justifiable even, especially given the circumstances in the OP.

I wonder if the plates CC1234 refers to are indeed attached to a late-model silver HSV Commodore…

shadow boxer2:43 pm 22 May 11

While lots of people on here claim to have seen a silver commodore only one has actually posted a plate.

If it’s wrong I reckon the original post is actionable.

CC1234 said :

my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night.

have another read of the OP… not last Saturday.

The truth is out there somewhere……….

Actually, I had a bit of a chuckle to myself at the comment that the car was garaged on Saturday night, as I recall numerous occasions back when I was younger, where friends of mine were driving around town in their parents’ car that was also supposedly garaged at the same time! 🙂

When the folks are away, the kiddies will play.

Mr Evil said :

CC1234 said :

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

Well, that’s interesting, because there are other incidents where other individuals have allegedly seen this same vehicle on the road with P plates on it, allegedly being driven in a dangerous manner and/or the occupants abusing and threatening other road users. I’m sure the car was garaged at that time too – or were the plates removed and being used on another vehicle?

Sounds like someone might have some explaining to do when Daddy gets home?

The importance of getting that AFP Job No. early cannot be overstated! Something does ‘smell’ here – two seperate incidents reported here at Riot, no AFP Job No. provided (despite repeated requests to do so).

If it’s mistaken identity, then we need to know. It could be a ‘set-up’ on the car owner. Lets just hope we find out……………….the true story!!!

CC1234 said :

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

Have you moved house recently? Perhaps bought the vehicle recently?

As a one off it could easily be a mistake, but when there’s more than report report identifying the same vehicle that seems less likely to be the case.

CC1234 said :

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

Well, that’s interesting, because there are other incidents where other individuals have allegedly seen this same vehicle on the road with P plates on it, allegedly being driven in a dangerous manner and/or the occupants abusing and threatening other road users. I’m sure the car was garaged at that time too – or were the plates removed and being used on another vehicle?

Sounds like someone might have some explaining to do when Daddy gets home?

CC1234 said :

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

This should be interesting. If true, perhaps a well earned lesson in “Not believing everything you read on the net 1.01” for about 99% of the commenters here.

If false, then maybe the rat has taken the bait?

Whichever scenario, I’d like to read about it in a ACT policing press release.

CC1234 said :

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

Might be an idea to check and make sure your dad’s car still has it’s plates on then. That they haven’t been pinched and swapped.

CC1234 said :

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

Is your fathers car a silver Commodore?
Are you or another user of the vehicle a P plate driver?

CC1234 said :

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle

Is your father’s car a silver Holden Commodore SS as reported? Seems a big coincidence to get both plate and vehicle make correct if it wasn’t that vehicle.

Tooks said :
Okay, champ. Ignore the points I made and make a childish anti-police comment, ignoring the obvious fact that police put people before court every day for assault. If you’re going to behave like an obnoxious, mouth-breathing cretin in response to a reasonable comment (in which I was trying to be constructive), then do me a favour and don’t bother replying at all.

I assume you are just another example of AFP’s finest.

KB1971 said :

The need a tagging on the back corner of the car at speed…………

Before anyone tries stupid manoeuvres such as the PIT Manoeuvre, please be aware that (a) law enforcement are trained to use it properly, (b) the vehicles are modified to perform the manoeuvre, (c) it probably counts as assault with intent to harm if you do it without training and authority, and (d) you will likely end up dead if you mess it up.

Vigilante justice is another form of gang warfare. Don’t participate in it. If you see the car, just call the police and let them know where it is. Don’t follow it, don’t interact with it, don’t try to be a hero.

Yes, it’s pathetic behaviour and these guys need to be held to account for their actions. Trying to impart your own form of Chuck Norris/James Bond/Rambo justice on them is more than likely going to get you hurt.

Sorry to hear that this occcured, I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.

However, I do think you have the wrong details, the registration number you provided is actually for my fathers vehicle – which was garaged last saturday night. And if there is a police investigation underway, they certainly have not contacted my father about it. So perhaps that is why there has been no further action on this matter.

We will be pursuing this further with the police tomorrow – this type of forum that has occurred is a breach of privacy with these false accusations.

onetwothreefour9:00 pm 21 May 11

This may not be of any assistance, but I saw a late model silver v6 commodore in Queanbeyan about 3.30pm this afternoon (21.05.2011) with p plates. I didn’t note the rego as I hadn’t yet read this. The reason I remember them as they were “trying” to drag with another commodore (who clearly did not know them as they went another way afterwards). They were heading from Fyshwick into the Queanbeyan CBD. I hope your wife and baby are ok, this is a disgusting thing to have happen to them.

Road Rage happens all the time unfortunately, I had an incident recently. I reacted to the situation at the time- I would advise that EVERYONE should have the police assistance number in their phones, 131 444. They checked up the rego whilst I was on the phone to them, told me where to drive to, called the cops… they were fantastic! The situation was resolved at the police station where I was tailed to- she was informed that she didnt know the road rules. Idiots are everywhere. I dont understand the extreeme over reactions though, there is no need for it… why do people care so much?!

buzz819 said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Tooks said :

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.

Correct. There is no such offence as road rage.

But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.

Assault with intent to commit other offence…. I guess at a stretch you could say the assault happened as a result of them intending to cause property damage?

Assault is assault. Simple charge. You then have degrees of assault (OABH, etc). In this case, charge with assault. Seperate charge for the property damage. Through in other misc. charges such as armed with a weapon, etc and there you have it. Also consider any intent – for example, did they intend to sexually assault the victim (complicated but if two of them were of the same mind then you may have a conspiracy to committ).

Anyway, I think you get the idea.

Chief Ten Beers said :

Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.

So if someone is renting, moves house with no forwarding address and hasn’t changed, rego, or electoral roll and moves into a group house, the Police can still find them? What miracle way would you use to find them?

What do they do, knock on every door in Canberra until they find them?

Was the car lowered, with a body kit and sounded pretty low… If yes then I saw 4 guys in the car doing some dodgy deals out the back of where I work… Most likely drugs… I’ll try and find out more 🙂

Golden-Alpine said :

Maybe check out the carpark at the Woden college. I had a commodore, can’t recall if it being silver, was definately a light coloured commodore cut me off at speed and head into the carpark at the school.

An HSV is pretty obvious – “run o’ the mill” Commodore it ain’t… wings and trim everywhere…

Chief Ten Beers4:15 pm 21 May 11

Do not believe that these people are untraceable to due moving. What a load of bollocks.

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Tooks said :

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.

Correct. There is no such offence as road rage.

But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.

Assault with intent to commit other offence…. I guess at a stretch you could say the assault happened as a result of them intending to cause property damage?

KeenGolfer said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.

No, there is no such thing. There is (common) assault, assault causing actual bodily harm and assault causing grievous bodily harm.

There is assault with intent to commit another offence, but that is pretty rare, and wouldn’t be applicable in this incident.

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.

No, there is no such thing. There is (common) assault, assault causing actual bodily harm and assault causing grievous bodily harm.

Rollersk8r said :

That is insane! Once you move house you’re untraceable?? A correct address is the only means of catching anyone??

I’ve seen carloads of young blokes deliberately break road rules – i.e. fail to give way – and then go bezerk at the person who has nearly hit them.

Quite honestly – if people were attacking my car (with or without my family in it) I would run them down and to hell with the consequences.

I would do exactly the same thing especially with my kids in the car!!

Rawhide Kid Part312:51 pm 21 May 11

Tooks said :

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.

Correct. There is no such offence as road rage.

But there is assault with intent….. What ever that intent may be.

rbw said :

How does anyone propose these crooks can be caught?

Since they obviously know they can outrun police as any police chase at highspeed will be called off at risk to the community. They know they can get away, and they will exploit it again and again.

Any ideas for the brass from the bright RA folk?

It seems they like targeting vulnerable looking folks put a small female in a car with 3 or 4 big blokes in another car watching closely from a distance drive around tuggers area and get the female to glare at any silver ss Holdens with P plates and see what happens they will eventually show there true colours, when she gets pushed off the road and these scum get out and start swing bats the 3-4 big blokes give them what they deserve then hand them to police. Hell if there are so many cases of this happening maybe the police should do this before some poor innocent person gets seriously hurt or even worse case killed.

Golden-Alpine11:23 am 21 May 11

Maybe check out the carpark at the Woden college. I had a commodore, can’t recall if it being silver, was definately a light coloured commodore cut me off at speed and head into the carpark at the school.

CanberraChristina said :

How do I get in contact with the person who posted this? I was on the receiving end of WAY over the top road rage from a late model silver Commodore on Thursday night…

Spend your time providing a statement to the police instead – more evidence can’t hurt.

nemesisrocks said :

I bet she had it coming. People don’t get road rage at random vehicles. They get road rage at incompetent and inconsiderate drivers.

The story posted here is likely highly biased towards this bloke’s wife. I’m guessing she was driving slowly in the right hand lane, and her “mistake” was probably giving the guys in the car the finger, not a mere “glance”. Perhaps gmckay424’s wife should consider following the road rules, and “keep left unless overtaking”, before throwing stones.

Dear God!!! Who let this guy out?

NOTHING justifies road rage… you need to learn to keep your emotions in check on the road…

Pommy bastard10:09 am 21 May 11

#101nemesisrocks
9:02 pm, 20 May 11
I bet she had it coming. People don’t get road rage at random vehicles. They get road rage at incompetent and inconsiderate drivers.

The story posted here is likely highly biased towards this bloke’s wife. I’m guessing she was driving slowly in the right hand lane, and her “mistake” was probably giving the guys in the car the finger, not a mere “glance”. Perhaps gmckay424?s wife should consider following the road rules, and “keep left unless overtaking”, before throwing stones

If you’re going to troll, at least get an interesting or amusing line of patter.

Typhoon said :

The Federal police don’t care about incidents of violence on a public road. I was assaulted on my motorcycle near on two years ago on Hindmarsh drive at a set of traffic lights. I never heard anything more about it, in spite of giving the AFP a perfect vehicle description, agreeing to prosecute to the full extent and two independent witnesses coming forward and making statements. Tell me that couldn’t be brought to court and prosecuted????
But hey, if I travel more than 5km/h over the speed limit, I will be fined and taught the lesson I deserve for being such a hardened, reckless criminal……
Frankly, as individuals, AFP officers only care about their careers and doing the bare minimum to get to the next level without causing problems.
It’s a sad indictment on police forces when people join for a career, rather than to serve the community, which is what it should be all about.

I’m interested in hearing more about this, how did the assault occur? By vehicle description I assume you gave them a registration plate?

What was the outcome that Police gave you? They found the car, couldn’t find the car, an interstate person, couldn’t identify an offender, or your version of assault is not their version, etc? Give me something more then they are lazy or don’t care.

CanberraChristina10:37 pm 20 May 11

How do I get in contact with the person who posted this? I was on the receiving end of WAY over the top road rage from a late model silver Commodore on Thursday night…

The Federal police don’t care about incidents of violence on a public road. I was assaulted on my motorcycle near on two years ago on Hindmarsh drive at a set of traffic lights. I never heard anything more about it, in spite of giving the AFP a perfect vehicle description, agreeing to prosecute to the full extent and two independent witnesses coming forward and making statements. Tell me that couldn’t be brought to court and prosecuted????
But hey, if I travel more than 5km/h over the speed limit, I will be fined and taught the lesson I deserve for being such a hardened, reckless criminal……
Frankly, as individuals, AFP officers only care about their careers and doing the bare minimum to get to the next level without causing problems.
It’s a sad indictment on police forces when people join for a career, rather than to serve the community, which is what it should be all about.

Dave from OzHarvest9:58 pm 20 May 11

Noted. We will keep a look out. We hope your family are OK.

LeatherJen said :

I think it’s obvious that the police need to do something here, before members of the public do.

why ask the police? they are far too busy….

i drive a truck around this lovely city and i’ll happily run them off the road if i find them. p plater vs 40ton truck.. i like fixing problems 😉

nemesisrocks9:02 pm 20 May 11

I bet she had it coming. People don’t get road rage at random vehicles. They get road rage at incompetent and inconsiderate drivers.

The story posted here is likely highly biased towards this bloke’s wife. I’m guessing she was driving slowly in the right hand lane, and her “mistake” was probably giving the guys in the car the finger, not a mere “glance”. Perhaps gmckay424’s wife should consider following the road rules, and “keep left unless overtaking”, before throwing stones.

dpm said :

djk said :

… Mate, if you are going to troll, at least be an imaginative troll. Three people, coming from nowhere, peddling the same tune, named ‘DACT’, ‘djk’ and ‘dpm’ is a bit obvious.

In fact I’d be a bit interested to know where you are from.

No idea who the other 2 are, but I have been here for a while. As stated a few times, I was just wondering why a link to a page showing Marist boys was posted without any reason.

Hahaha!
I too don’t know who the two other posters are. I simply found it amusing that in light of the private vs public thread (I’d mentioned) that two posters had (for whatever reason) suggested private school students (two public schools were also mentioned, so there you go). It was a bit lame I know (as acknowledged with the ‘at the risk of stirring the pot’ statement) but the comments were timed too close to the other thread, and my brain was still in ‘school’ mode so they stood out. In reality, I have no problem with either school as I no nothing about them – except that they matched the ‘private schools breed fine upstanding citizens’ comments from the other thread. There, I think i’ve joined all the dots for you now.

Re: 6matt9
I too went to a public primary school, high school and college, plus ACT TAFE (as it was in the day) and also the lowly UC (cf. ANU). So some might say that school-wise, i’m as basically educated as it gets. My post was in fact, thinly-veiled sarcasm. Sarcasm is known as the lowest form of wit, and with my public school upbringing that’s all I have sorry. 😉 Being from a public background yourself, I thought you may have noticed and embraced the sarcasm – my bad. Phew, more confusion righted! Now for a bex and a good lie down….

Lastly, fingers crossed these losers get caught through RA word of mouth. Along with its other benefits, that could certainly make RA a useful tool to assist in the catching of criminals (albeit, possibly only the stupid ones)!

My sarcasm radar didn’t detect any. I would have certainly embraced it otherwise. Anyway, now that we’ve cleared that up…let’s find these punks and hang them in the Town Square!

Pommy bastard7:09 pm 20 May 11

Jimzed said :

I hope ACTPOL are able to catch theses $%#@ before someone gets hurt. Its only a matter of time isnt it.

I’d prefer they Mully themselves out of existence, as long as they do not take out anyone else first.

I think it’s obvious that the police need to do something here, before members of the public do.

Here is a Qoute from another thread on RiotACT

“Are there laws in the ACT that prevent a P-plater driving anything more than a 6 cylinder vehicle? Last Saturday night I was passed on Hindmarsh Drive by a silver Holden Commodore SS (ACT registration ***-***) travelling at what I estimated to be around 170-180km/h in an 80km/h zone. There were 4 youths in the car and it was displaying red P-plates”

I hope ACTPOL catch these %$&# before someone gets hurt.

Ceej1973 said :

CSRI said ” I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.”

I think the Police have little interest in these types of incidents unfortunately. I was rammed off the road along Drakeford Drive (see Ram Rage RA article) a year ago, and although there was a Police pursuit just after the incident, following another witness who reported the plates of the same offending vehicle, nothing ever eventuated. I thought the same at the time… Is this not a serious enough crime to publicise? Apparently not. I can probably dig out the statement of fact and get the Police report number if you dont believe me! For the others in doubt, given that this car has previously been mentioned on another thread for similar offences by a different blogger, I would say the chances that either of the 2 stories are “made up”, is slim.

Statement of facts? So they did catch someone?

This is a post that was made on the 5th April on another thread.

“Last Saturday night I was passed on Hindmarsh Drive by a silver Holden Commodore SS (ACT registration ***-***) travelling at what I estimated to be around 170-180km/h in an 80km/h zone. There were 4 youths in the car and it was displaying red P-plates.”

I hope ACTPOL are able to catch theses $%#@ before someone gets hurt. Its only a matter of time isnt it.

facet said :

Well
“Reading between the lines based on the limited information you provided, the defence would’ve had a field day if that had ever gone to Court.”

This is AFP speak for we don’t intend to do anything on these incidents.

So they will continue to occur.

Okay, champ. Ignore the points I made and make a childish anti-police comment, ignoring the obvious fact that police put people before court every day for assault. If you’re going to behave like an obnoxious, mouth-breathing cretin in response to a reasonable comment (in which I was trying to be constructive), then do me a favour and don’t bother replying at all.

GottaLoveCanberra6:13 pm 20 May 11

rbw said :

How does anyone propose these crooks can be caught?

From the sounds of things these guys live in my neck of the woods. Rest assured OP that if I see this vehicle I WILL be following it.

Pommy bastard6:02 pm 20 May 11

I am also a little concerned that people can post the rego number of a car on a forum like this which then elicits calls for vigilante action

Don’t worry, I’m sure there’d be a massive police effort to find anyone who beat up the thugs in the OP.

How does anyone propose these crooks can be caught? Since they obviously know they can outrun police as any police chase at highspeed will be called off at risk to the community. They know they can get away, and they will exploit it again and again.

Any ideas for the brass from the bright RA folk?

deleted said :

dont know if anyone has mentioned it, but id be searching the street commodores forums, canberra cruises forums, performance forums for pics of this car. these egotists will likely have pics online of their car doing stupid things, and no doubt bragged about this incident..

Actually you’ll find if you check out forums such as Canberra Cruises you’ll find that members have posted about this incident and are just as appalled as everyone here.

We are a good group of friends that try to promote safe motorsport events and don’t need to be dragged in to a matter such as this!

I’m really sorry to hear what happened to the OPs family and I hope these people are brought to justice.

p1 said :

Any minute now I am expecting a FOTW style rant saying how we don’t know ’cause we weren’t there and bazza is a top bloke and only behaved that way cause…..

Nah, not from those two forums at least. They’re both Japanese car owner forums, the natural enemy of the Commodore. If anything, they’ll gleefully help bring these bogans to justice. Import car owners get enough heat from the police as it is just for the cars they drive so I’m sure they’d love to take a few of the wankers off the road to reduce the “hoon” boogeyman that overshadows them…

This made me feel ill. I’ve posted the story to my fb page to help spread the word.

CSRI said ” I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.”

I think the Police have little interest in these types of incidents unfortunately. I was rammed off the road along Drakeford Drive (see Ram Rage RA article) a year ago, and although there was a Police pursuit just after the incident, following another witness who reported the plates of the same offending vehicle, nothing ever eventuated. I thought the same at the time… Is this not a serious enough crime to publicise? Apparently not. I can probably dig out the statement of fact and get the Police report number if you dont believe me! For the others in doubt, given that this car has previously been mentioned on another thread for similar offences by a different blogger, I would say the chances that either of the 2 stories are “made up”, is slim.

dpm said :

I no nothing about them – except that they matched the ‘private schools breed fine upstanding citizens’ comments from the other thread.

I think you’ve misread and therefore misquoted in a MASSIVE way from the other thread; I don’t see anyone saying that “private schools breed fine upstanding citizens” (or anything equating that statement). I, and many others, simply pointed out the fact that public schools have no choice but to take those antisocial kids, some excluded from private schools; others who are antisocial due to the homes and backgrounds they come from. A greater number of these kids in the Public sector by no means equates to more upstanding members of society in the Private sector. But, by all means, feel free to point out exactly which comments match your quote…

colourful sydney racing identity3:48 pm 20 May 11

p1 said :

Any minute now I am expecting a FOTW style rant saying how we don’t know ’cause we weren’t there and bazza is a top bloke and only behaved that way cause…..

here’s hoping!

I just re ran a google search for the rego, and found no new info, except that this RA thread has been brought to the attention of at least two car forums (fora for the anal amongst us).

Any minute now I am expecting a FOTW style rant saying how we don’t know ’cause we weren’t there and bazza is a top bloke and only behaved that way cause…..

colourful sydney racing identity said :

PBO said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.

I am also a little concerned that people can post the rego number of a car on a forum like this which then elicits calls for vigilante action…

as for the number plate I believe that it is in the public interest to know who to look out for when it comes to their own safety and security. I assume that you would have had an issue with Rate the Plate when it was available.

If it came fron an official source, say the AFP, I would agree 100%. What concerns me is that someone could concoct such a story (I am in no way implying that this is the case here) as a method of revenge against someone.

Yes, I tend to agree with you CSRI. Which is why of course we have been asking for the AFP Report Number at least. You are quite right, at the moment we have a story – nothing more. That is not to say it didn’t happen (and I am saddened if it did for the whole family) but this thread has gained quite a momentum over the past 24 hours – based on nothing more than a story. And in that ‘story’ we have a car registration.

So, and with due respect the original post and his family, let’s get the Police Report details at least before we call out the hounds!

colourful sydney racing identity said :

If it came fron an official source, say the AFP, I would agree 100%. What concerns me is that someone could concoct such a story (I am in no way implying that this is the case here) as a method of revenge against someone.

+1 Always a chance.

As much as this article made my blood boil, it is simply an article written by an anonymous person. Don’t get me wrong, if this is true I hope these idiots get fisted by bubba. But I would prefer to see something from AFP, etc.

colourful sydney racing identity2:27 pm 20 May 11

PBO said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.

I am also a little concerned that people can post the rego number of a car on a forum like this which then elicits calls for vigilante action…

as for the number plate I believe that it is in the public interest to know who to look out for when it comes to their own safety and security. I assume that you would have had an issue with Rate the Plate when it was available.

If it came fron an official source, say the AFP, I would agree 100%. What concerns me is that someone could concoct such a story (I am in no way implying that this is the case here) as a method of revenge against someone.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.

I am also a little concerned that people can post the rego number of a car on a forum like this which then elicits calls for vigilante action…

There is a difference between vigilant action and vigilante action, as for the number plate I believe that it is in the public interest to know who to look out for when it comes to their own safety and security. I assume that you would have had an issue with Rate the Plate when it was available.

Now that it has gotten to 77 or so responses, the Canberra times are sure to steal this story.

Well
“Reading between the lines based on the limited information you provided, the defence would’ve had a field day if that had ever gone to Court.”

This is AFP speak for we don’t intend to do anything on these incidents.

So they will continue to occur.

My money’s on them still being at the last known address, especially if it’s where family or friends live. It’s easy enough to say they’ve moved on.

And when they catch them (or when they eliminate themselves from the gene pool all together) I know exactly who’ll be to blame, “the police” of course!

deleted said :

these egotists will likely have pics online of their car doing stupid things,

Like planking? Can hardly wait for Darwinism to do its bit then.

colourful sydney racing identity1:50 pm 20 May 11

I am a little surprised that there has been nothing about this in the media – I would have thought a chilling encounter like this would be a lead item.

I am also a little concerned that people can post the rego number of a car on a forum like this which then elicits calls for vigilante action…

dont know if anyone has mentioned it, but id be searching the street commodores forums, canberra cruises forums, performance forums for pics of this car. these egotists will likely have pics online of their car doing stupid things, and no doubt bragged about this incident..

i witnessed a similar attack 4 weeks ago, a p plater in a blue ss commodore on isabella drive, the attacker was punching the driver of an old red corolla because he was ‘cut off’ on a roundabout. >>> truth is the commodore tried to strait line the roundabout and didnt give way to a car turning. luckily, myself and a couple of other cars took pictures and the attacker was caught. hope these guys get caught also..

djk said :

… Mate, if you are going to troll, at least be an imaginative troll. Three people, coming from nowhere, peddling the same tune, named ‘DACT’, ‘djk’ and ‘dpm’ is a bit obvious.

In fact I’d be a bit interested to know where you are from.

No idea who the other 2 are, but I have been here for a while. As stated a few times, I was just wondering why a link to a page showing Marist boys was posted without any reason.

Hahaha!
I too don’t know who the two other posters are. I simply found it amusing that in light of the private vs public thread (I’d mentioned) that two posters had (for whatever reason) suggested private school students (two public schools were also mentioned, so there you go). It was a bit lame I know (as acknowledged with the ‘at the risk of stirring the pot’ statement) but the comments were timed too close to the other thread, and my brain was still in ‘school’ mode so they stood out. In reality, I have no problem with either school as I no nothing about them – except that they matched the ‘private schools breed fine upstanding citizens’ comments from the other thread. There, I think i’ve joined all the dots for you now.

Re: 6matt9
I too went to a public primary school, high school and college, plus ACT TAFE (as it was in the day) and also the lowly UC (cf. ANU). So some might say that school-wise, i’m as basically educated as it gets. My post was in fact, thinly-veiled sarcasm. Sarcasm is known as the lowest form of wit, and with my public school upbringing that’s all I have sorry. 😉 Being from a public background yourself, I thought you may have noticed and embraced the sarcasm – my bad. Phew, more confusion righted! Now for a bex and a good lie down….

Lastly, fingers crossed these losers get caught through RA word of mouth. Along with its other benefits, that could certainly make RA a useful tool to assist in the catching of criminals (albeit, possibly only the stupid ones)!

These guys regularly do burnouts around the roundabout at Wheeler/Forlonge in Wanniassa. I’ll suggest they live close by to this area since its a regular occurence.

Might I add that the dragstrip roundabout at Wheeler/Forlonge is one of the worst place for burnouts in the ACT. I’ve assisted the police with supplying video footage and number plates of multiple offenders that have been caught over the years, but as soon as one group of idiots is stopped, another comes in their place. The sooner the authorities rip up this intersection and replace it with traffic calming design, the better. I’m not holding my breath though.

johnboy said :

Patience Frots, not everyone hits the site every 30 seconds.

Strange I know.

What..???? And here I was thinking…………………………

No problems – but hopefully we’ll get one.

Patience Frots, not everyone hits the site every 30 seconds.

Strange I know.

Okay – we’ve had a few requests now for the Police Job Number………………………can I request again that we get it?

If you haven’t got one………………………………..let us know and also tell us why?

Oh, one other thing, request the AFP drop into the Tuggeranong College carpark every now and then.

A group who attend school there carry baseball bats and knives in a vehicle threatening other kids from time to time.

Not Erindale College, I am referring to Tuggeranong College.

If it is the same group/boy in the silver commodore, the AFP should site the vehicle quickly during or after school.

I see a Silver SS Commodore around Tuggeranong with P-Platers regularly and have a fair idea of the suburbs they visit and reside.

However, I believe the AFP will catch up with the ‘known offender’ over the next week.

Have faith, if its the same group, they drive around Tuggeranong on a regular basis and will be apprehended swiftly.

Participate in Rush Hour or visit Lanyon/Maccas carpark on a Friday night – Saturday am.

Br1ghtl1ghts12:37 pm 20 May 11

I’d like the police job number.
These idiots need to be found!!

‘DACT’ wrote:

‘Have your wife look at this page:

http:…. (Link to a photo of a Marist football team)

Are these any of the guys she saw?’

Then, in case we missed it, ‘djk’ quoted it again and said:

Any particular reason this was posted? Should they be looking in the carpark at Marist??

Still no bites, so ‘dpm’ writes:

“At the risk of stirring the pot of another recent thread, the answer is apparently no. The perpetrators could not possibly be from either of these private schools. As we know, private schools provide: “an emphasis on discipline and accountability, enforce strong school rules and standards, behaviour, values and also self-discipline”. Therefore, you’d need to look in public school carparks, if the perps are in fact still at school. I for one would be shocked if students from the schools mentioned were involved in any wrongdoing”

Mate, if you are going to troll, at least be an imaginative troll. Three people, coming from nowhere, peddling the same tune, named ‘DACT’, ‘djk’ and ‘dpm’ is a bit obvious.

In fact I’d be a bit interested to know where you are from.

No idea who the other 2 are, but I have been here for a while. As stated a few times, I was just wondering why a link to a page showing Marist boys was posted without any reason.

I will absolutely be keeping my eye out and spreading the word! absolutely disgusting, and coming from me that should mean something!

For their sake, I hope I spot them on the road and not parked somewhere inconspicuous…

Anchor said :

My thoughts are with your family.

This actually sounds like a car from a house on Galloway street Isabella plains across from the Isabella plains shops. But that may be a coincidence- old bomb commodores look alike and I never pay attention to the number plate – will now.

Just to clarify: a “late model” Commodore would actually be fairly new.

When did it turn into Paramatta?

Hey, don’t knock Parramatta. That’s where the Marist boys (PMH) hang out.

shadow boxer12:00 pm 20 May 11

4 D cell battery Maglight, hold it near your eye, point at the eyes and swing if you need to on a 45 degree angle.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

Well, if the cops aren’t going to do anything about it, there’s always vigilante justice.

I think that’s the best kind of justice.

You absolute hypocrite. You are one of the most strident laura norder posters on this site and now you advocate breaking the law?

Relax, genius. I was being facetious.

two words.

Wheel Lock.

My thoughts are with your family.

This actually sounds like a car from a house on Galloway street Isabella plains across from the Isabella plains shops. But that may be a coincidence- old bomb commodores look alike and I never pay attention to the number plate – will now.

They may have two sets of number plates perhaps? One for after dark and the other to blend in?

Why don’t you contact the buses to ask their drivers to keep a look out and also the taxis.

colourful sydney racing identity11:08 am 20 May 11

Mysteryman said :

Well, if the cops aren’t going to do anything about it, there’s always vigilante justice.

I think that’s the best kind of justice.

You absolute hypocrite. You are one of the most strident laura norder posters on this site and now you advocate breaking the law?

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.

Correct. There is no such offence as road rage.

I was even attacked by the resident police trolls for being some how to blame. Thankfully these guys draw the line at a woman and her young child being attacked.

Attacked? Who blamed you? Without wanting to go off topic, if you were confused as to why police didn’t proceed with your case, then you should’ve spoken to the case officer for clarification. If it had been explained to you, perhaps it would’ve become obvious as to why the case couldn’t go further. Reading between the lines based on the limited information you provided, the defence would’ve had a field day if that had ever gone to Court.

It’s not that hard to find the culprit, what happens next is the real issue for our community.

Finding who currently owns the car (back to the OP now) probably won’t be difficult. Identifying the offenders might be though, unfortunately.

Mysteryman said :

Well, if the cops aren’t going to do anything about it, there’s always vigilante justice.

I think that’s the best kind of justice.

Yes the Vigliance Committee did wonders with Jack the Ripper.

Not really a good idea, first problem; it’s illegal, second, the very real possibility of mistaken identity. Sorry doesn’t cut it when you’ve put a guy in a wheelchair or worse

Well, if the cops aren’t going to do anything about it, there’s always vigilante justice.

I think that’s the best kind of justice.

this is a sickening act, hopefully they will be caught sooner than later, unfortunately there are alot of people who don’t change the car rego details into their name but at some stage he will have to surely, I’m unsure how it works but can rego can flag this vehicle so he is unable to re register it once it expires with out providing correct details then that info being passed onto police

facet said :

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.
I was even attacked by the resident police trolls for being some how to blame. Thankfully these guys draw the line at a woman and her young child being attacked.
It’s not that hard to find the culprit, what happens next is the real issue for our community.

There is no offence, there is assault, property damage, drive with intent to menace, reckless/dangerous/furious driving, negligent driving…..

el said :

Hell, I’d be happy to chuck in $20 or $50 towards this.

Seconded. Will OP accept paypal?

welkin31 said :

A photo or two of the car type would help or URL to online pics

The car was a silver late model Holden Commodore SS with ACT registration ***-***.

Could it look something like this? http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/cil/820631.jpg (this is a car on sale in QLD)

“Because these sort of people when they buy a car never transfer the rego into their own name. It makes it nigh on impossible unless the previous owner asked for and kept their details, or the cops see them driving and pull them over.”

@KeenGolfer. The seller of the car has a disposal slip that they submit to RegoACT, which transfers ownership of the vehicle regardless of whether the new owner does. If the seller fails to get the buyers details then they are an idiot, because not doing so leaves them liable for speeding fines, etc.

A photo or two of the car type would help or URL to online pics

Don’t expect too much from the AFP. I have written of my own experience as a victim of road rage here on RiotACT and the AFP response that there was no such offense.
I was even attacked by the resident police trolls for being some how to blame. Thankfully these guys draw the line at a woman and her young child being attacked.
It’s not that hard to find the culprit, what happens next is the real issue for our community.

Captain RAAF7:28 am 20 May 11

I’d still like to see the Police job number on this incident, please.

What suburbs do we think are the likely lairs of these thugs? Isabella Plains, Richardson, Wanniassa??? I’m going for a look over the weekend.

Any other places that people suggest the car might be found?

Don’t worry, I can look after myself and I won’t be out to confront them…..just find them.

Jethro said :

LSWCHP said :

What is unacceptable is the claim by the boys in blue that they can’t do anything about this because the guy has moved house. They have a number-plate, so they must have a name. Surely a bit of, you know, police investigation would go some way towards finding these people.

Because these sort of people when they buy a car never transfer the rego into their own name. It makes it nigh on impossible unless the previous owner asked for and kept their details, or the cops see them driving and pull them over.

LSWCHP said :

This is unacceptable.

Like the other members of our community, I’ve noted the number and I’m on the lookout.

My sympathy for your wife and child. I have 4 children, and I know how you must feel. Anyone who would place a newborn at risk deserves everything they get.

What is unacceptable is the claim by the boys in blue that they can’t do anything about this because the guy has moved house. They have a number-plate, so they must have a name. Surely a bit of, you know, police investigation would go some way towards finding these people.

Of course, if they are found and sent to trial the ‘justice’ that is served would invariably be something along the lines of a good behaviour bond and an admonition to not do it again.

When I first arrived in Canberra a car load of young men in a WRX pulled up besides me at a set of lights on Wentworth Avenue and proceeded to lean out the window waving a hammer and shouting abuse because I had the audacity to look at them. I didn’t even bother reporting it because I knew nothing would be done.

(I don’t want this to come across as a cop-bashing exercise… I generally support the work of our police, but too many times I have been disappointed by the rusted wheels of justice not working to help victims of crime)

Postalgeek said :

c` said :

Seems to me running one of the pricks over in a situation like this would be a justifiable self defence. You’d only need to run one of them over.

Why stop at one?

According to my trusty calculator, the kinetic energy of 115 grain 9mm hardball is roughly 1300 Joules. On the other hand the kinetic energy of a medium sized sedan travelling at “running over arseclown” velocity is around 170000 Joules.

Assessing the physics of the situation, I concur with the advice being offered. Given offered the choice between a 9mm and a Camry, take the Camry, line ’em up with the steering wheel, and press the pedal to the metal. They’ll either scatter like autumn leaves, or get what they deserve.

PeterK said :

p1 said :

Wow, that pisses me off so much just reading about it. I hope when you do catch up with them you can restrain yourself from beating them too badly, or at least that you get away with it.

Sounds like these fellows will be having a lengthy chat when the plod catch up with them. They are referenced on at least one other RA thread.

I was the one who originally asked the question on another RiotAct thread. I can’t help but think that the night I saw them (around 4 weeks ago) on Hindmarsh Drive was exactly the same night that this incident occured – it seems too much of a coincidence.

Unfortunately I did not head down Monaro Highway that night but I wish I had as had I seen them on the side of the road I would have stopped and rendered assistance. I feel pretty terrible about it actually! Let me tell you, if these gutless wonders ever try the same thing on me then all four will be eating through straws the rest of their lives.

+1 for that PeterK.

This is unacceptable.

Like the other members of our community, I’ve noted the number and I’m on the lookout.

My sympathy for your wife and child. I have 4 children, and I know how you must feel. Anyone who would place a newborn at risk deserves everything they get.

Where’s Mully when we need him?

c` said :

Seems to me running one of the pricks over in a situation like this would be a justifiable self defence. You’d only need to run one of them over.

Why stop at one?

p1 said :

Wow, that pisses me off so much just reading about it. I hope when you do catch up with them you can restrain yourself from beating them too badly, or at least that you get away with it.

Sounds like these fellows will be having a lengthy chat when the plod catch up with them. They are referenced on at least one other RA thread.

I was the one who originally asked the question on another RiotAct thread. I can’t help but think that the night I saw them (around 4 weeks ago) on Hindmarsh Drive was exactly the same night that this incident occured – it seems too much of a coincidence.

Unfortunately I did not head down Monaro Highway that night but I wish I had as had I seen them on the side of the road I would have stopped and rendered assistance. I feel pretty terrible about it actually! Let me tell you, if these gutless wonders ever try the same thing on me then all four will be eating through straws the rest of their lives.

Sleaz274 said :

As well as this fantastic response from riot act members have you considered hiring a private investigator? I’m sure it wouldn’t be a particularly difficult task for an experience investigator who work off far far less information in a lot of cases. I’m sure they’d prefer to do this than follow cheating spouses and dodgy insurance claimants.

Just a thought if you have the finances available. If something like that happened to my wife and kid I’d be happy to get a loan and get a couple of professionals onto it.

Hell, I’d be happy to chuck in $20 or $50 towards this.

Heartening to hear the number of people noting this rego plate down on ‘the dash’ so they can keep an eye out, too.

I hope your wife is OK, and isn’t too shaken up about driving in the future.

I too hope they catch these morons! I will keep a look out and I have posted on my Facebook page as well. It is about time we get the BOGANS off our streets once and for all.

I know that this is a long shot, but I do not want to see these youths get away with such an unprovoked attack on an innocent woman and infant and have it potentially happen to someone else.

If I didn’t know any better then I would find it hard to believe that such feral creature exist and assumed you are exaggerating a minor incident.

But I do, and they do exist. I have no idea what their issues are, but these teenagers are more than happy to pick a fight with someone (e.g. me) simply walking in a public place.

I hate to ask this, and the social taboo it might provoke, but do you look like an outsider? I do.
I’m just wondering whether outsiders are being targetted by these feral creatures for whatever pre-judging that is embedded in their mentality?

I’d have thought the registered owner would’ve left a forwarding address for mail. Blinding of the scum driver of the Commodore and amputation of the hands of his colleagues would be just punishments.

I don’t ahve any information, but I have passed this on to all my friends and family, and posted it up on my Facebook page as well. Hopefully someone will know something.

Perhaps a bit too much ‘Big Brother’, but a live feed from all the local servos to a Police monitoring room could work wonders. It’s done in Civic for the ‘better good’. This could be for the ‘even better good’

And I hope they catch these turds, and they get a jury trial.

ahappychappy6:41 pm 19 May 11

I actually saw these idiots on Saturday night.

Myself and a mate were stopped at the roundabout at the intersection of Drakeford Drive and Isabella Drive around midnight when these imbiciles started hurling abuse at us out their windows. They floored it around the outside and headed right into Isabella Plains on Drumston Street.

Not sure if that really helps – I’ll keep an eye out.

As well as this fantastic response from riot act members have you considered hiring a private investigator? I’m sure it wouldn’t be a particularly difficult task for an experience investigator who work off far far less information in a lot of cases. I’m sure they’d prefer to do this than follow cheating spouses and dodgy insurance claimants.

Just a thought if you have the finances available. If something like that happened to my wife and kid I’d be happy to get a loan and get a couple of professionals onto it.

This is a horrible story 🙁 Have written the plate number down and will keep my eye out, too.

Seems to me running one of the pricks over in a situation like this would be a justifiable self defence. You’d only need to run one of them over.

Devil_n_Disquiz5:07 pm 19 May 11

I’m on the road 12 hrs a day or so. I’ll keep an eye out.

As a previously mentioned, the police file number would be useful so that the plod know what they are looking for if someone calls up.

Mr Intercourse4:40 pm 19 May 11

Might be a good idea to check the Erindale College carpark

Captain RAAF3:56 pm 19 May 11

That’s an easy rego to remember, just one letter different from my daily driver. I’ll be keeping an eye out.

damien haas said :

I am curious to know if RAPID, the device ACT Policing use to detect unregistered vehicles using number plate recognition technology, also has the ability to detect miscreants such as the gentleman referred to in this post.

Yes.

Recently I came across a silver SS with P plates driving like an idiot on Drakeford Drive. Quite possibly the same one. Hope they find them. A terrible experience for your wife and I’m glad your young’un is too young to remember it.

Sorry to hear about this! Likewise, it infuriates me that people can get off on such anger-fueled rages at any small trigger. I think I’ll have to practice more caution in how I deal with crazy drivers, I tend to be a glarer when someone’s pulled out a dick move on the roads. I’ll keep this plate number listed, as I work down tuggers way and frequent these roads. Thoughts are with your wife.

damien haas said :

I am curious to know if RAPID, the device ACT Policing use to detect unregistered vehicles using number plate recognition technology, also has the ability to detect miscreants such as the gentleman referred to in this post.

I would like to hope so.

Does anyone in the RiotACT community own a late model silver SS Commodore, and feel like putting on some fake plates for some speed runs through redlight cameras?

I am curious to know if RAPID, the device ACT Policing use to detect unregistered vehicles using number plate recognition technology, also has the ability to detect miscreants such as the gentleman referred to in this post.

This is horrible. I’ll also keep the number on my dashboard in case i see them.

Sounds like they have a thing for Hindmarsh Drive on a Saturday night. Any vigilantes around here?? 😉

What idiots!! Although I have a similar story of someone tailgating me with highbeams trying to run me off the road on my way back from the mountians a few weeks back. Not too sure who the heck it was but for some odd reason, going the speed limit wasn’t good enough for them. I should have slammed on the brakes. I need a new car.

Their number plate is going on the dash though. If I see them, it’s a call to the police. Unless of course I feel like I need a new car…

The need a tagging on the back corner of the car at speed…………

Am I the only one who threw the license plates into Google and came up with this?

http://the-riotact.com/the-commodores-of-wanniassa/42017

These retards are seemingly repeated offenders, must be known in the community, among their mates and school friends, etc. Why are they still out and about?

Pommy bastard3:24 pm 19 May 11

Bets of luck in finding them, I hope these “big boys” pick on the wrong person one day.

That is insane! Once you move house you’re untraceable?? A correct address is the only means of catching anyone??

I’ve seen carloads of young blokes deliberately break road rules – i.e. fail to give way – and then go bezerk at the person who has nearly hit them.

Quite honestly – if people were attacking my car (with or without my family in it) I would run them down and to hell with the consequences.

Wow, that pisses me off so much just reading about it. I hope when you do catch up with them you can restrain yourself from beating them too badly, or at least that you get away with it.

Sounds like these fellows will be having a lengthy chat when the plod catch up with them. They are referenced on at least one other RA thread.

Sophzill4 said :

Sorry I can’t be of much help but this isn’t the first time this car and its occupants have done this. Late last year a similar thing happened to a friend of mine who luckily managed to call the police who met her. Hopefully someone can track them down.

Do I read from this you have seen this car before? If so, where and when?

Really sorry that this happened – make sure that your wife gets appropriate councelling for this (and I’m not joking). Like the others, this rego is now on my dashboard.

With any luck, they’ll be in a single vehicle fatality though and you won’t be bothered by them anymore!

What a horrible story. I’ve seen (and been the target of) some road rage incidents (not as bad as this though) and reported them on the ACT police website. Never heard anything, not even sure the report function on the site works… might have gone into a black hole. Angry Young Men prowling the roads like they own them is not something I’m interested in happening, but increasingly it is.

every silver SS commodore will get a careful look from me from now on. I so hope they catch the mongrels.

Alternatively, provide your case file number the police have given you, so anyone wishing to provide information on the garaging of said vehicle and housing of its occupants can call the police or crime stoppers with that detail, without worrying you are going around to their place to exact any kind of “rough justice”.

colourful sydney racing identity2:59 pm 19 May 11

Mysteryman said :

That is outrageous. I hope those idiots get caught. I’m making a note of the licence plate number, and will keep it with me. I’m out and about on the roads quite a bit. If I see them, I’m notify the police immediately.

ditto. hope they get caught.

That is outrageous. I hope those idiots get caught. I’m making a note of the licence plate number, and will keep it with me. I’m out and about on the roads quite a bit. If I see them, I’m notify the police immediately.

Sorry I can’t be of much help but this isn’t the first time this car and its occupants have done this. Late last year a similar thing happened to a friend of mine who luckily managed to call the police who met her. Hopefully someone can track them down.

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