28 November 2011

Roo v dog in Lake Tuggeranong

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Andy has sent in the above video with this note:

Saturday morning saw us witness a small kangaroo leap gracefully into Lake Tuggeranong. The reason for this was quickly revealed as a pursuing canine. Maybe this is why leads were invented?

Who knows? Rumour has it that roos have the upper hand while in the water and so it was with interest that we watched what was going on. But it wasn’t as if we could do anything anyway.

Belatedly, I fired up the little camera and while I curse digital zoom, it gave a low contrast view of what went on.

Will Skippy drown Optimus?

UPDATE: In answer to your questions Andrew had this to say:

And yes, Skippy got out and lay there for a while, even though it was immediately barked at by another unleashed dog which had the sense to keep its distance.

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bigfeet said :

iceu said :

Are you guys serious? Most of Lake Tuggeranong is a DESIGNATED OFF LEASH AREA for dogs according to the TAMS website, as are some of the banks.

I’m not saying that dogs should be allowed to chase kangaroos, but sometimes they come out of the blue. IMO the owner seemed to be doing the right thing in the circumstances – her other dog had been leashed and this one was leashed as soon as it got out of the water.

You either have no idea of the responsibilities of dog owners in designated unleashed areas, or you just don’t care.

A dog can only be unleashed if it is under the immediate control of the responsible person. Do you really understand what that means? If a dog rushes at any other animal it is not under control. If a dog does not return to the owner the instant it is called it is not under control.

This owner obviously has no control at all of the animal.

With your attitude I certainly hope you are not a dog owner.

Actually yes, I’m a dog owner. I have two dogs. One of them isn’t let off leash unless in a fenced area, as his recall isn’t brilliant. The other has great recall but I’d be stupid if I said it was 100%. IMO no dog anywhere in the world has 100% recall. I can assure you that I am most definitely a responsible dog owner, both my dogs are exercised every single day, both are obedience trained, one obedience titled.

Will my girl recall off other dogs? Yep. Will she recall of other people? Yep. Will she recall off a kangaroo that hops 5m in front of her? Don’t know, haven’t been in the situation before. Is she a robot? Most definitely not 🙂

If she chased a kangaroo and we got fined, then sure, I’d cop that as she wasn’t under control. But some of the previous comments were, IMO, uncalled for. Not much tolerance in our society these days.

G-Fresh said :

Classified said :

I’ve seen this a few times where I live. On one occasion the dog chased to roo into the small lake and the roo drowned the dog. The lady who owned the dog went mental.

There’s a simple solution – keep your dog on its lead.

i would pay to see that.

It wasn’t nice to watch.

taninaus said :

bigfeet said :

iceu said :

A dog can only be unleashed if it is under the immediate control of the responsible person.

This owner obviously has no control at all of the animal.

With your attitude I certainly hope you are not a dog owner.

And Bigfeet you are either incredibly naieve or a ‘letter of the law person’ – while the law does say this unfortunatley most pet owners aren’t capable of that level of control with their dogs – or like in this case the alternative is way to interesting for the dog. There are many and varied owners of dogs – as there are parents of children – with differing levels of control. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t own dogs, but does mean that they should be aware of their limitations and allow appropriate level of freedom to the dog that they can manage.

No, it does means they shouldn’t own dogs. If they can’t control it off the leash, then they can’t control it on a leash should it set it mind to something. Especially big dogs, if that dog was on a lead it would have either snatched it from the idiot owners hand or dragged her along with it.

Classified said :

I’ve seen this a few times where I live. On one occasion the dog chased to roo into the small lake and the roo drowned the dog. The lady who owned the dog went mental.

There’s a simple solution – keep your dog on its lead.

i would pay to see that.

bigfeet said :

iceu said :

A dog can only be unleashed if it is under the immediate control of the responsible person.

This owner obviously has no control at all of the animal.

With your attitude I certainly hope you are not a dog owner.

And Bigfeet you are either incredibly naieve or a ‘letter of the law person’ – while the law does say this unfortunatley most pet owners aren’t capable of that level of control with their dogs – or like in this case the alternative is way to interesting for the dog. There are many and varied owners of dogs – as there are parents of children – with differing levels of control. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t own dogs, but does mean that they should be aware of their limitations and allow appropriate level of freedom to the dog that they can manage.

Sounds like the dog was mentoring the roo to swim. Nothing wrong with that. I bet the roo enjoyed it.

iceu said :

Are you guys serious? Most of Lake Tuggeranong is a DESIGNATED OFF LEASH AREA for dogs according to the TAMS website, as are some of the banks.

I’m not saying that dogs should be allowed to chase kangaroos, but sometimes they come out of the blue. IMO the owner seemed to be doing the right thing in the circumstances – her other dog had been leashed and this one was leashed as soon as it got out of the water.

You either have no idea of the responsibilities of dog owners in designated unleashed areas, or you just don’t care.

A dog can only be unleashed if it is under the immediate control of the responsible person. Do you really understand what that means? If a dog rushes at any other animal it is not under control. If a dog does not return to the owner the instant it is called it is not under control.

This owner obviously has no control at all of the animal.

With your attitude I certainly hope you are not a dog owner.

Are you guys serious? Most of Lake Tuggeranong is a DESIGNATED OFF LEASH AREA for dogs according to the TAMS website, as are some of the banks.

I’m not saying that dogs should be allowed to chase kangaroos, but sometimes they come out of the blue. IMO the owner seemed to be doing the right thing in the circumstances – her other dog had been leashed and this one was leashed as soon as it got out of the water.

Captain RAAF8:06 am 29 Nov 11

Nan212 said :

Reading about this and similar stories makes me so damn angry. I live next to a reserve and see dogs off the leash all the time, but what can I do about it? Not a freakin thing!!!

Why make laws if ignorant dog owners fail to abide by them.

Air rifles.

Most have an effective, pain dispensing range of around 30 metres. Longer ranges are best for dogs as the pellet will be unlikely to penetrate the flesh and leave ‘evidence’. All the animal will end up with is a ripper bruise.
The impact of the pellet will send an excellent message to the animal, especially dogs, as they associate bad events with where they are when they occur, so it won’t like being in that area ever again as it will associate it with a real bad sting in the arse!

Air rifles are relatively quiet, cheap and you can have fun making all kinds of custom ammo. I use special rock salt pellets for close range work on cats, they appear to love it as once they hit the ground they lick and lick the salty goodness like nothing else, it must be super tasty!

Deref said :

Classified said :

I’ve seen this a few times where I live. On one occasion the dog chased to roo into the small lake and the roo drowned the dog.

What a pity it didn’t drown the dog’s owner too.

Hear hear. Go for a walk anywhere anytime in Canebrra and all you can hear is yap yap yap! Ggrrrrr

Classified said :

There’s a simple solution – keep your dog on its lead.

You mean follow the law? that’s against our human rights! 😛

Classified said :

I’ve seen this a few times where I live. On one occasion the dog chased to roo into the small lake and the roo drowned the dog.

What a pity it didn’t drown the dog’s owner too.

Reading about this and similar stories makes me so damn angry. I live next to a reserve and see dogs off the leash all the time, but what can I do about it? Not a freakin thing!!! Why make laws if ignorant dog owners fail to abide by them.

I spent 30 minutes saturday arvo photographing the roos sitting in the grasslands 20 odd metres from my house. They can be a pest to some, but I appreciate the fact I live in a country with wildlife still wild and alive 🙂

I do recall in the last roo story, most respondents said that it was “natural” for roos to get hit by cars and to not waste time stopping to help. Will be interesting to see if the dog (owner) haters love roos more…

Personally speaking, the dog should have responded a little quicker to it’s owner who you could hear shouting – as a dog owner I know the embarrassment of your dog ignoring you. Maybe now they will know for the future and keep the dog on a lead if it is not an off lead area. Doesn’t look like any harm done on this occasion.

Was she a Banshee?

amarooresident310:06 am 28 Nov 11

Did the roo get out?

Pity you couldn’t get any better footage of the owner of the dog.

They need to be prosecuted.

I’ve seen this a few times where I live. On one occasion the dog chased to roo into the small lake and the roo drowned the dog. The lady who owned the dog went mental.

There’s a simple solution – keep your dog on its lead.

…… get ‘ere now

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