Rudd’s thousand dollar Chrissy present

tastyjam 25 December 2008 85

A friend of mine recently got a cool thousand dollars in his bank account without knowing why or who. We considered that maybe his mother transferred it in as an early Chrissy present, or maybe just because she was a little high. We also considered that it could be part of Kevin Rudd’s thousand dollar economical security payouts, but given he’s 19 years old and not receiving benefits, it didn’t really seem to fit the bill. I googled Kev’s payout and couldn’t find anything that would indicate that he would be eligible.

Surely enough, though, soon he got a letter in the mail from Centrelink claiming responsibility for the thousand dollar payout. It claimed that he was eligible for this payout because he was receiving Youth Allowance on October the 14th 2008.

I then compared myself, who didn’t get the payout, to my friend who did. He is literally one day younger than me and we have both at one point in time, received Youth Allowance. The only difference between us is that I began full time employment last year and have been working full-time ever since, thus being ineligible for Youth Allowance, while he has a casual job at McDonalds and still gets the benefits.

My point in this rant is; why does the eligibility for this payment depend solely on whether the individual was receiving Youth Allowance on a particular date? Youth Allowance is paid to a variety of people, some mean well and are studying or just doing it tough, but others are just too lazy to get a full time job – and these people will be rewarded with a thousand dollar payout. To me, than plan is a little flawed.

[ED (Kramer) – Not entirely Canberra related, but it’s a really, really slow news day. So back to the beer and prawns!]


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gladbag gladbag 10:35 pm 30 Dec 08

Dexi, why don’t you go plant trees for landcare, indirectly they are part of the gov. who pay you, therefore you should be able to trust them……

Thumper Thumper 10:29 pm 30 Dec 08

I should add that I’ve negotiated a nine day fortnight with my employer for no loss of pay.

Thumper Thumper 10:27 pm 30 Dec 08

France is seriously stuffed in many ways, capped working week is but one problem. Social issues are currently tearing the country apart and one must wonder if their work legislation has something to do with it.

sepi sepi 10:23 pm 30 Dec 08

I see it as improving our home lives, as well as creating employment.

What about just giving everyone one afternoon off a week = that shouldn’t send us all broke or ruin productivity.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 10:15 pm 30 Dec 08

France has a capped working week, and their productivity sucks. Making everyone lazy is not the answer.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:49 pm 30 Dec 08

PB, I wondered who else would pick up those two sentences, especially the last one.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 6:58 pm 30 Dec 08

sepi said :

But i am a fan of making everyone do a 4 day week.

Even Dexi?

BTW Dexi, how will you know if you’ve found an “employer you trust” enough to start working again?

Especially as you are; “long term unemployed who cant/wont participate in work.”

nyssa76 nyssa76 6:47 pm 30 Dec 08

DJ, did I fail to indicate in my various posts as to whether or not the stand I take in general and thus did not ‘dob’ them in?

I’ve helped the system by ‘dobbing’ in the cheats. However the system doesn’t help itself with the information as I’ve then watched them still get the benefits.

So you tell me.

vg vg 6:03 pm 30 Dec 08

sepi said :

Dexi i think overtime is pretty much a thing of the past these days.

But i am a fan of making everyone do a 4 day week. It would open up more jobs, and also free up some childcare spots.

….and send wages through the floor. Subtract 1/5 of your salary and see how your mortgage payments go

DJ DJ 4:19 pm 30 Dec 08

nyssa76 said :

Genie, there are many who rort the system with medical certificates because they don’t want to work, however if you’re applying for 10 a week then kudos to you.

I know of a few people who have borrowed canes, wheelchairs etc just to get money from Centrelink. They are the ones ruining the process for others.

I also know of a few legit cases that were turned down because idiots like the ones I mentioned above rort the system.

Did you report them? While I see your point if you did nothing then you are not helping the system are you?

sepi sepi 1:50 pm 30 Dec 08

Dexi i think overtime is pretty much a thing of the past these days.

But i am a fan of making everyone do a 4 day week. It would open up more jobs, and also free up some childcare spots.

nyssa76 nyssa76 12:47 pm 30 Dec 08

Genie, there are many who rort the system with medical certificates because they don’t want to work, however if you’re applying for 10 a week then kudos to you.

I know of a few people who have borrowed canes, wheelchairs etc just to get money from Centrelink. They are the ones ruining the process for others.

I also know of a few legit cases that were turned down because idiots like the ones I mentioned above rort the system.

Genie Genie 12:27 pm 30 Dec 08

fnaah – I have an injury that limits me to what I can and cant do. I have also applied for a wide variety of jobs of what I know are within my limits. (Yes even though I have medical certificates saying I shouldn’t be working, and what I am limited to doing – I still apply for up to 10 jobs every week, wanna know how many I hear back from – ZERO)

Hmmmm – You clearly have never worked in fast food places if you think they don’t involve heavy lifting. I spent my college years doing just that

Maelinar Maelinar 12:13 pm 30 Dec 08

There are a number of incorrect assertions about the military in the previous 2 statements (#69 and #70).

Myself, I would prefer a middle-ground approach. Make them not military, but allow the military to help them*. Disciplines such as personal hygiene, ironing, cooking, cleaning, sewing, and mustering the strength to get my sorry ass out of bed at 6am in the morning were things I LEARNT while in the military. These attributes have been quite beneficial in a job opportunity sense, when looked at in context.

On point of semantic – Every role in the ADF with the exception of Defence Civilian comes with the requirement to use a weapon proficiently. That they use a weapon regularly, appears to be more appropriate #70.

*I’m deliberately being vague as I am not engaging further on this topic. My input here is merely in defence of Military life.

fnaah fnaah 12:11 pm 30 Dec 08

Unemployable? Why so?

Perhaps if you’re very short or cannot lift things due to medical reasons, shelf-packing may not be an option, but it looks like you have a working knowledge of the English language – have you looked at help desk/call centre? Practically every fast food joint has a “staff wanted” sign out the front these days, and those jobs don’t involve lifting.

Genie Genie 11:51 am 30 Dec 08

Why is everyone relating the ADF to giving people guns !? There are 1000’s of job opportunities in the ADF and very few of them use guns.

The ‘poor me’ excuse doesn’t cut it. There are jobs out there but not many people want to stack shelves or worse because ‘it’s below them’. A job is a job. A job gives people dignity and does not tie them to the dole.

Nyssa – do you know what its like to be told your unemployable !? I would quite happily stack shelves if I could – I have several mates who do it and earn more than what an APS job could offer, and I’m a night owl so I wouldn’t even have a problem with the hours. I would do any job if I could get one. Unemployment is my only option at the moment. I’d like to think I am in the minority of people who actually deserve to be on the dole at the moment.

fnaah fnaah 11:42 am 30 Dec 08

we need more people in the ADF

Um, what for? Oh, right, to hold back those ravenous imperialist Indonesians who are constantly invading. Of course.

Instead of “volunteering” people into the Army so they can get fit and learn how to shoot things, why don’t we volunteer them into a SCHOOL so they can LEARN things. We need bright minds and creative thinkers, not riflemen who have had every skerrit of independent thought hoovered out of them.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 10:25 am 30 Dec 08

I wasn’t suggesting we make all the unemployed join the military – the last thing many of these people need is access to guns!

dexi dexi 9:34 am 30 Dec 08

Im well aware of people holding their own thoughts. The thought that we should lower/abolish the dole and force people into work/army is as old as the penny. Its not a different thought just the same OLD rhetoric. What’s different about that thinking. If challenging this makes me not nice, then I guess VYbelina or santa will sort me out.

I see a total lack of interest in debating dropping wages and overtime as a solution to creating real jobs. Not just the jobs a teenager would find dull. Some people might find this idea insulting.

Who am I. I am long term unemployed who cant/wont participate in work. So I guess that makes me all thing not nice. But it does allow me to make statements about what its like to be on welfare. You can call me lazy but I’m not a bludger. Ill return to work when I find an employer I trust.

I’m ok with being drug free and unemployed.

Xbikee Xbikee 2:02 am 30 Dec 08

With the GST, does not the government get back 10% of the 10Billion when it’s spent (except for dexi’s friends who don’t pay tax on drugs). I just read all the above, and just who IS this dexi person? Doesn’t sound very nice, and certainly does not like anyone to think differently. One of those peolle I call a statement maker … not many questions come from there. I saw a show on ABC’s Catalyst the other week and they showed how-and-when (thru tests) kiddies had the penny drop and realised that oher people did not think exactly the same as them … mind awareness, I think they called it. Penny dropped yet dexi?

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