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Seditious bogans should swing for this

johnboy 14 August 2011 110

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It seems we have been noticed by the nutters from “Just Grounds” which is rather the opposite of the ancient Chinese curse “May you come to the attention of powerful people”.

They have sent forward an emissary Julie Coker-Godson who had this to say in the comments last night:

@johnboy: My name is Julie Coker-Godson and I will be one of the participant “crazies” you speak of in the forthcoming Convoy of No Confidence in the Federal Government to take place on the 22nd/23rd August next. As such, I am better placed than you are to be telling people what is taking place. Firstly, and let me make this abundantly clear, there is NO intention of a blockade. Never has been. Secondly, the Convoy is about a range of issues, including all the failed policies of this incumbent Greens/Labor Government, not just the carbon tax. The people in this Convoy come from all walks of life, farmers, cattlemen, small business, trucking businesses, et al. I am coming from the South Coast by car and will be filtering in with the Convoy at Hall. I’m glad though that you recommended people go to the justgroundsonline community link. That way, people will be able to read for themselves the preparations and intentions of the organisers of this Convoy. On this site, they will get the information “from the horses mouth” and not from excitable sensationalising commentators. Cheers, Julie C-G

Aside from being traitors to the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia these people are also devious and dishonest, which is why it’s very hard to understand what they’re on about when reading their websites aside from “the vibe of the thing”.

But I’ll cast you back to the statements that kicked this off by Marlee Ranacher speaking to the media on their behalf:

She backed plans by the convoy organisers to stage a sit-in in Canberra and to hold the city in gridlock until the Government, its supporters or the Governor-General agree to a new election.

While their website appears to be ashamed of their aims (to the extent they are obfuscated, aside from the bit they missed, the name of the site), and their petitions are legion (and the more extraordinary have disappeared) the petition they still link to is here.

As you can see in the screenshot above the purpose of this protest is to force the collapse of a government which still commands the elected parliament.

I’m not a fan of the Gillard Government. If it were to fall to legitimate processes I would shed not one tear.

But here’s the thing.

If these idiots succeed in their stated aim it will destroy Australian democracy.

Once it just takes a few thousand angry griefers getting in their cars to achieve a coup d’état we’re pretty much done as a country where people get to elect their government.

We’re a country of nuts, it’s a great thing, but you can get 10% of Australians to believe pretty much anything.

Use your imagination, consider what happens if everyone starts acting like this. If it takes just some tens of thousands out of a country of millions to bring down a government?

They might think that they’re garden variety bogans Australians, but for mine no amount of dislike of Julia Gillard justifies their aims.

Protest against any specific policy you like, if the elected parliament is unable to command its houses let it fall.

But there’s nothing as un-Australian as an angry mob bringing down a government.

In the sort of Australia they’re trying to create (lacking understanding of consequence) they’d hang as traitors from every lamp post on Commonwealth Avenue.

For the sane there’s an election in 18 months or so. Vote for whomever you wish.


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Mr Evil Mr Evil 2:57 pm 20 Aug 11

johnboy said :

When Tony Abbott can pass a motion of no confidence, in the elected parliament, he can form a government.

Otherwise he has to wait. That’s how Australians do things.

Tony has to ask God’s permission to pass a motion. I suspect that may be the reason why so much sh*t pops out of his mouth.

Anyway, what chance do they have of bring Canberra to a standstill with their silly convoy – the ACT Govt has been trying to do the same thing for 7 years on the GDE, and yet things keep moving along – albeit at a slower pace than is expected.

And as for Julie’s comments that by going to ‘justgroundsonline’ site people will get information “from the horses mouth” – sorry, Julie, but I suspect you’re thinking of the wrong end of the horse!

smiling politely smiling politely 11:14 am 20 Aug 11

chewy14 said :

I don’t think Julie likes you Johnboy:
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/tonys-flawed-friendship-with-the-freaks-and-flat-earthers/#comment-reply-form-588057

So based on Ms Coker-Godson passing this on to Chris Smith it looks like this place will get a mention on Sydney talkback radio next week. Given a recent comment about the number of “bitter and twisted curmudgeons and miscreants” elsewhere the newbies should fit right in. Should be a good week.

KB1971 KB1971 7:08 am 20 Aug 11

I just can’t see it happening, I guess we will see won’t we.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 10:19 pm 19 Aug 11

johnboy said :

LSWCHP said :

I went back to the Just Grounds website today in a desperate attempt to convince myself that there might be some some semblance of rationality or decency on display there. Despite my best efforts, it just didn’t pan out. It’s like the events depicted in “Idiocracy” are happening in our own lifetime.

…deletage…

I despise these people, and everything they stand for.

Tell me, as a military man, if you were sketching out a coup plan on an empty whiteboard would a pretty good plan look just like this in the early stages?

Bearing in mind these people have expressed their admiration for Pinochet.

Yes. In the 1920’s Adolf Hitler (Yes…I know about blogs, Hitler etc…however…) was viewed by his countrymen as a right-wing ratbag nutter surrounded by a bunch of loonies of no consequence. That didn’t end well.

So yeah, it’s easy to dismiss these people as jokes and say that they will never have any influence. But unless they are actively opposed, and their nonsense revealed for what it is, we could all end up in trouble. It’s easy to trivialise these people, and say “it couldn’t happen here”, but there is no natural law that protects us from such maniacs.

I think I might be joining the bike ride on Monday.

Jethro Jethro 10:04 pm 19 Aug 11

KB1971 said :

Jethro said :

Although I will note the signs they have posted that call for revolution are a bit concerning.

Really? Do you really think they are organised enough or angry enough to cause a coup?

Cmon, this is Australia, the land of the great piss & wind. They will come, they will make a noise & they will go otherwise they will go broke which is worse than any carbon tax.

The AFP look like they are already diffusing the situation before they get here by not letting them hit the place as they planned & splitting them up from as early as Sunday night, that’s if they get the numbers (which I am doubtful of as a massive convoy would have been all over the news).

Poke me if I am wrong on Tuesday.

I am sure they will not succeed, but I do believe their intentions are far more malevolent than they let on in their statements to the press.

I also would not be surprised if a significant number of the trucks do end up blockading Canberra. Who the f*** would drive across a continent simply to do a lap of Parliament House?

KB1971 KB1971 9:05 pm 19 Aug 11

Jethro said :

Although I will note the signs they have posted that call for revolution are a bit concerning.

Really? Do you really think they are organised enough or angry enough to cause a coup?

Cmon, this is Australia, the land of the great piss & wind. They will come, they will make a noise & they will go otherwise they will go broke which is worse than any carbon tax.

The AFP look like they are already diffusing the situation before they get here by not letting them hit the place as they planned & splitting them up from as early as Sunday night, that’s if they get the numbers (which I am doubtful of as a massive convoy would have been all over the news).

Poke me if I am wrong on Tuesday.

Jethro Jethro 8:48 pm 19 Aug 11

Although I will note the signs they have posted that call for revolution are a bit concerning.

Thumper Thumper 8:45 pm 19 Aug 11

Read the exiled article yet JJ? This is large corporate interest driving this, strapping the crazies on as sabotage. Who do you think is paying for the diesel to protest an economic effect?

Granted there are some real nutters in that lot but I think Jim is probably correct.

I may not agree with Gillard but I’d sure fight like hell to ensure our democracy is not subverted.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 8:37 pm 19 Aug 11

established “government” that should be.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 8:36 pm 19 Aug 11

johnboy said :

Tell me, as a military man, if you were sketching out a coup plan on an empty whiteboard would a pretty good plan look just like this in the early stages?

Bearing in mind these people have expressed their admiration for Pinochet.

But thankfully none of these people have the brains (or the balls) to try to pull something like that off. A successful coup against an established requires intelligence and cunning at the helm and a substantially fanatic and incredibly popular public support base. What happened in Egypt and Cuba and any other popular (and successful) revolution you can think of is one thing, this is nothing more than a small convoy of disgruntled truckies and random frootloops who’ve been geed on by small-time populist demagogues like Alan Jones and … well whoever the hell else is big in the right-wing, frothing at the mouth talkback radio shock jock world.

    johnboy johnboy 8:40 pm 19 Aug 11

    Read the exiled article yet JJ? This is large corporate interest driving this, strapping the crazies on as sabotage. Who do you think is paying for the diesel to protest an economic effect?

Jethro Jethro 8:35 pm 19 Aug 11

Their site is pure gold. Hours of entertainment for a Friday evening.

johnboy johnboy 8:19 pm 19 Aug 11

LSWCHP said :

I went back to the Just Grounds website today in a desperate attempt to convince myself that there might be some some semblance of rationality or decency on display there. Despite my best efforts, it just didn’t pan out. It’s like the events depicted in “Idiocracy” are happening in our own lifetime.

There are of course the demented climate change denialists, which I gather is where the whole sick shebang originates. These people sit around in a giant circle jerk congratulating each other interminably on their prescience in seeing through the whole climate change fraud. This fraud is being perpetrated by idiotic people like scientists.

Joining these giant intellects are the Black Helicopter gang, who think pretty much everything is a plot being orchestrated by the UN to enforce a world government.

I could go on and on. But I certainly wouldn’t bother trying to write anything critical on the site itself, because as soon as someone attempts to put across a view that doesn’t toe the party line they are immediately branded as a “troll”, and there is much light-hearted jesting from the moderators about not feeding the troll, with little troll images posted etc. Then the troll is ruthlessly moderated away. I even saw one moderator congratulate another on the speed with which one person was banned, for asking some fairly reasonable questions, which were ignored of course. They don’t like anybody disagreeing with them, the Just Grounds people.

And I suspect that “being moderated” is what would happen to those that would oppose them if they ever attained real power of any kind. Only The Moderators would come knocking at the door of the troll at 3am. And the troll, and his or her family would be off to the reeducation camp. Perhaps never to be seen again.

When I was reading their site, I thought of the hands of Victor Jara. Google that name, and you’ll see just one example of what has happened elsewhere to trolls who ask provocative questions when the Just Grounders and their ilk take over, may that day never come.

I despise these people, and everything they stand for.

Tell me, as a military man, if you were sketching out a coup plan on an empty whiteboard would a pretty good plan look just like this in the early stages?

Bearing in mind these people have expressed their admiration for Pinochet.

Erg0 Erg0 8:17 pm 19 Aug 11

More things I learned from the Just Grounds website:
In order to have “all walks of life” represented at your rally, you require only the following: ” Truckies, cattlemen, dairy farmers, beef producers, small grocery and deli businesses and market growers etc…”

I’m assuming that talkback radio presenters fall under “etc…”

screaming banshee screaming banshee 8:15 pm 19 Aug 11

Wow, she thinks Barnaby Joyce is a good speaker and god made the sun shine on them.

Am I on the only one that thinks what she has written is threatening violence.

Darkfalz Darkfalz 8:07 pm 19 Aug 11

Yeah, but think of all the damage Dullard can do in 18 months.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 7:26 pm 19 Aug 11

I went back to the Just Grounds website today in a desperate attempt to convince myself that there might be some some semblance of rationality or decency on display there. Despite my best efforts, it just didn’t pan out. It’s like the events depicted in “Idiocracy” are happening in our own lifetime.

There are of course the demented climate change denialists, which I gather is where the whole sick shebang originates. These people sit around in a giant circle jerk congratulating each other interminably on their prescience in seeing through the whole climate change fraud. This fraud is being perpetrated by idiotic people like scientists.

Joining these giant intellects are the Black Helicopter gang, who think pretty much everything is a plot being orchestrated by the UN to enforce a world government.

I could go on and on. But I certainly wouldn’t bother trying to write anything critical on the site itself, because as soon as someone attempts to put across a view that doesn’t toe the party line they are immediately branded as a “troll”, and there is much light-hearted jesting from the moderators about not feeding the troll, with little troll images posted etc. Then the troll is ruthlessly moderated away. I even saw one moderator congratulate another on the speed with which one person was banned, for asking some fairly reasonable questions, which were ignored of course. They don’t like anybody disagreeing with them, the Just Grounds people.

And I suspect that “being moderated” is what would happen to those that would oppose them if they ever attained real power of any kind. Only The Moderators would come knocking at the door of the troll at 3am. And the troll, and his or her family would be off to the reeducation camp. Perhaps never to be seen again.

When I was reading their site, I thought of the hands of Victor Jara. Google that name, and you’ll see just one example of what has happened elsewhere to trolls who ask provocative questions when the Just Grounders and their ilk take over, may that day never come.

I despise these people, and everything they stand for.

EvanJames EvanJames 4:59 pm 19 Aug 11

Erg0 said :

I saw a photo of one of their trucks just now on the ABC website. The sign on the back read, in part, “Bring Back Democracy”. I’m guessing they’re not terribly familiar with the concept of irony.

If you have a large truck, you get an extra big helping of Democracy. Poofs and cyclists get a diet-sized bit. See how it works?

johnboy johnboy 4:27 pm 19 Aug 11

chewy14 said :

I don’t think Julie likes you Johnboy:
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/tonys-flawed-friendship-with-the-freaks-and-flat-earthers/#comment-reply-form-588057

She’s rather confused isn’t she. The Canberra Times will be thrilled.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:51 am 19 Aug 11

Classified said :

Actually, I wonder how a series of signs saying “F*** OFF, WE”RE FULL” would go if placed around Canberra’s entry points…

Golf clap.

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