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Seeking Witnesses to Road rage on Flemington Rd 18/8 11am

belot 19 August 2010 70

Hello,

I’m seeking any witnesses to a road rage incident on Flemington Rd Mitchell that happened yesterday the 18th of August 2010 at 11am.

It involved a blue motorcycle and a late 90s model white ford falcon.

I was the rider of the motorcycle who was almost pushed off the road multiple times then threatened at the lights on the corner of Flemington and Northbourne.

I am seeking the number plate of the ford falcon and anything else anyone has to offer as a witness.

My email address is belot(at)internode(dot)on(dot)net.

Cheers


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liberaldose liberaldose 3:28 pm 21 Nov 10

Canberran’s all drive with their head up their arse.
If I had 5 cents for all the times I could have been killed/injured/had my car damaged by reckless, ignorant drivers, I’d be a millionare.
In no particular order, I will state the the most difficult tasks for most Canberra drivers:

1. Merging (no one can seem to do it without breaking, slowing down or coming to an absolute halt)
2. Indicating (apparently those levers next to the steering wheel make the lights on the sides flash!?)
3. Parking (no other comment needed)
4. Round-a-bouts (Gungahlin residents know this too well)
5. Driving in the right hand lane, generally UNDER the specified speed limit (this is under driving with head up arse category)

So BELOT, unfortunately, this means you will almost always have to ride with eyes in the back of your head as most drivers pay no attention to anything unless you are in their direct vision (and they’ll find fault in what you’re doing and that usually will lead to road rage because Canberran’s are ANGRY drivers!)

We need a name and shame website up here for dickheads who do this sort of thing on A.C.T roads.. and one for idiots who talk on their mobile whilst driving.. (espcially with kids in the car silver 4WD on Flemington road on the 15th Nov)

p1 p1 11:01 am 02 Sep 10

Jim Jones said :

The ACT Police are useless because Australian law prevents conviction without evidence?

Witness* statements are not evidence these days? While I admit in this one-off instance, if the only witness is also the person alleging they were attacked, the chances of it going to court are slim. But I also think that is is the polices’ job to investigate this kinda thing to check if there is in fact no evidence. At the least if there was a record of such incidences, then patterns involving specific individuals may emerge.

[* – not that I think they should be the be all and end all, but they are all part of evidence. And I do understand that the police don’t have the time (because they don’t have the money) to follow up everything to the degree I would wish – doesn’t mean it is right]

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:49 am 02 Sep 10

The ACT Police are useless because Australian law prevents conviction without evidence?

An odd sequence of logic you have there.

merlin bodega merlin bodega 10:19 am 02 Sep 10

krasny said :

Good grief. I know you may be seeking witnesses first, but if you haven’t already called the police, I’d strongly advise you to do so promptly – if you don’t report these things early on, even without all the evidence, they may not pay much attention, and you can always pass on more information once you have a job number.

I’m with arescarti42; I’m not going to discount the possibility that there’s another side to this story (it’s nothing personal, that’s just how I roll), but as a general principle, people driving metal death boxes have no business menacing cyclists and motorcyclists when the consequences are so serious (moreso even that menacing other drivers).

You are kidding right?

I did all the above when a psycho ran me off the road. Called the police, attended the police station and gave the make, model and registration of the car but the police refused to proceed because after all it was simply my word against the nut job who ran me off the road. Correct there are at least 3 sides to every story but at least I was prepared to go through the process. Just don’t suggest the police in the ACT are anything more than useless.

Tooks Tooks 8:24 am 26 Aug 10

housebound said :

The allocation of our resources continues to be managed in accordance with the four-level priority response model. The model ensures that our resources are deployed to the most serious incidents at any given time.
They still won’t show up -their given time is a flexible concept.

I think the concept is lost on you, somehow.

Tooks Tooks 8:22 am 26 Aug 10

bigred said :

And about the AFP locking up the innocent,suggest you look up the haneef matter.

Yeah, and look how well that turned out for them.

housebound housebound 12:04 am 26 Aug 10

The allocation of our resources continues to be managed in accordance with the four-level priority response model. The model ensures that our resources are deployed to the most serious incidents at any given time.
They still won’t show up -their given time is a flexible concept.

bigred bigred 9:34 pm 25 Aug 10

Wasn’t there so can only comment in general terms. Obviously the OP should have looked after his own welfare by extracting himself from the situation as quickly as he could. He should have tried to note the plate number. He should also let plod know in case anyone else reported it and a rare motivated officer joined the dots.

And about the AFP locking up the innocent,suggest you look up the haneef matter.

Spideydog Spideydog 5:25 pm 25 Aug 10

Jim Jones said :

bigred said :

I will vote for the pollie that promises to make these f&ckers truly accountable.

And *that* is why we have stupid politicians?

Precisely how do you think that anyone is going to ‘make these f&ckers’ responsible, when all that you have is one person’s word against anothers – no witnesses, no evidence of any sort, and no way to determine what happened?

You can huff and puff about law’n’order and responsibility and blame ‘the gummint’ all you like. The day that the police start locking people up without evidence is the day I start swimming to New Zealand.

+1

The Traineediplomat The Traineediplomat 4:52 pm 25 Aug 10

Bring back ratetheplate.com.au

That was fun reading sometimes especially if one plate had multiple reports on it. Unfortunately the person let the website registration slide and a cybersquatter jumped in.

belot belot 3:07 pm 25 Aug 10

P.S. there WAS a heap of witnesses, just none have come forward :sadface:

belot belot 3:03 pm 25 Aug 10

My Apologies Tooks. I thought you meant me.

Tooks Tooks 2:22 pm 25 Aug 10

belot said :

Tooks said :

Sure, someone tried to kill you. Instead of over-dramatising, tell us what actually happened, without exaggerating. Then tell us the result of the complaint you made for police inaction (you complained, right?).

I know if someone tried to kill me and police did nothing, I’d be doing more than writing about it on the internet (although I’d do that too, starting with a story on this site).

And if what you allege is true (which it may be), what have you done to make them accountable? Or are you one of these “what’s the point – they won’t do anything anyway” types?

Nothing in my post was over dramatised. Im not going to go into details about what happened, it was simply a question of did someone get this guys number plate cause I didn’t. I have done all that I can, reported to police, and without the number plate I wouldnt expect them to be able to do anything anyway. I am not under any illusion, nor complaining that he hasnt been caught, nor will be, as I guess at the end of the day I could have fleed (which I did) or stuck around and got his numberplate which also would have come with the heightened possibilty of being injured…… so your post is useless.

You probably found my post useless, becuase it wasn’t even directed at you. I was under the impression that bigred was talking about an incident that had happened to him, as you had never mentioned someone trying to kill you.

In your situation, you did the right thing by not escalating things by trying to get his numberplate. It is unfortunate there were no witnesses, but as you said, without a numberplate, not much could be done.

bigred, if you were talking about the OP (in post 51) then tell us what should’ve been done in this situation?

belot belot 2:05 pm 25 Aug 10

Tooks said :

Sure, someone tried to kill you. Instead of over-dramatising, tell us what actually happened, without exaggerating. Then tell us the result of the complaint you made for police inaction (you complained, right?).

I know if someone tried to kill me and police did nothing, I’d be doing more than writing about it on the internet (although I’d do that too, starting with a story on this site).

And if what you allege is true (which it may be), what have you done to make them accountable? Or are you one of these “what’s the point – they won’t do anything anyway” types?

Nothing in my post was over dramatised. Im not going to go into details about what happened, it was simply a question of did someone get this guys number plate cause I didn’t. I have done all that I can, reported to police, and without the number plate I wouldnt expect them to be able to do anything anyway. I am not under any illusion, nor complaining that he hasnt been caught, nor will be, as I guess at the end of the day I could have fleed (which I did) or stuck around and got his numberplate which also would have come with the heightened possibilty of being injured…… so your post is useless.

Tooks Tooks 2:00 pm 25 Aug 10

sepi said :

Should we really have to make formal complaints about police inaction to expect anything to ever be investigated:?

No, you’ve completely misunderstood what I said; read it again.

p1 p1 10:57 am 25 Aug 10

Jim Jones said :

The day that the police start locking people up without evidence is the day I start swimming to New Zealand.

I’ll wave as I go past in a boat.

sepi sepi 10:09 am 25 Aug 10

Should we really have to make formal complaints about police inaction to expect anything to ever be investigated:?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:05 am 25 Aug 10

bigred said :

I will vote for the pollie that promises to make these f&ckers truly accountable.

And *that* is why we have stupid politicians?

Precisely how do you think that anyone is going to ‘make these f&ckers’ responsible, when all that you have is one person’s word against anothers – no witnesses, no evidence of any sort, and no way to determine what happened?

You can huff and puff about law’n’order and responsibility and blame ‘the gummint’ all you like. The day that the police start locking people up without evidence is the day I start swimming to New Zealand.

Tooks Tooks 9:50 am 25 Aug 10

Sure, someone tried to kill you. Instead of over-dramatising, tell us what actually happened, without exaggerating. Then tell us the result of the complaint you made for police inaction (you complained, right?).

I know if someone tried to kill me and police did nothing, I’d be doing more than writing about it on the internet (although I’d do that too, starting with a story on this site).

And if what you allege is true (which it may be), what have you done to make them accountable? Or are you one of these “what’s the point – they won’t do anything anyway” types?

bigred bigred 8:35 pm 23 Aug 10

Priority five – someone has just tried to kill you on Flemington road and by their behaviour might try to kill someone else – no response required because it is all too hard.

I will vote for the pollie that promises to make these f&ckers truly accountable.

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