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Should have put that one on the shelf

By johnboy 22 June 2011 35

A 21-year-old Banks man will face the ACT Magistrates Court today after police apprehended him having sex with a 14-year-old girl early this morning (Wednesday, June 22).

About 3.10am members from Tuggeranong Police Station were conducting a routine patrol of Hume when they came across a car with heavily fogged windows.

The members approached the car and found a 21-year-old man having sexual intercourse with a teenage girl in the back seat.

The man was arrested by police and taken to the ACT Regional Watch House where he was charged with Sexual Intercourse with a young person under the age of 16.

Police will be opposing bail.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Diggety 4:12 pm 24 Jun 11

tonkatuff82 said :

… also my bad I guess…

Not really tonka. Politically correct or not, one could be forgiven assuming human sex would be between a male and female.

tonkatuff82 3:21 pm 24 Jun 11

Skidbladnir said :

tonkatuff82 said :

Um, do you understand the term ‘buggery’ and how it differs from “normal” sexual intercourse?

Of course. And do you understand how Sect 80 and Sect 81 applied to Mr Slicker here?
(Hint: Read the threads he’s been most vocal on, and his standard commentary, you’ll get the idea.)

Ah, check! That one went over my head, my bad.

Jungle Jim said :

Umm, JennD – it was a guy and a girl. That’s pretty heterosexual.

hey JennD, yep I did make the enormous presumption that a 21 year old male and a 14 year old female having sex were heterosexual… also my bad I guess… (I know the buggery act was intended to make homosexuality illegal. I just think you trying to make my comments sound like I am an ignorant homophobe are a bit much)

Jungle Jim 2:49 pm 24 Jun 11

Umm, JennD – it was a guy and a girl. That’s pretty heterosexual.

Skidbladnir 2:48 pm 24 Jun 11

tonkatuff82 said :

Um, do you understand the term ‘buggery’ and how it differs from “normal” sexual intercourse?

Of course. And do you understand how Sect 80 and Sect 81 applied to Mr Slicker here?
(Hint: Read the threads he’s been most vocal on, and his standard commentary, you’ll get the idea.)

JennD 2:12 pm 24 Jun 11

hey tonkatuff82, way to assume they were heterosexual

tonkatuff82 2:06 pm 24 Jun 11

Skidbladnir said :

R. Slicker said :

During the early to mid 1970s starting when I was 13 I had sex numerous times in the back of panel vans with people in their late teens and twenties. Never once did I think I was doing anything wrong and it didn’t harm me at all, in fact I loved every minute of it.

Actually, based on your previous comment history, regardless of your age, that was a Crime even then.
See below.

CRIMES ACT, 1900 (NEW SOUTH WALES) As amended in its application to the Australian Capital Territory by Ordinances of the Territory
Reprinted as at 18 November 1983 [The below bits lasted until 1987, iirc]

Buggery and bestiality
79. Whosoever commits the abominable crime of buggery, or bestiality, with mankind, or with any animal, shall be liable to imprisonment for life or any term not less than five years.

Attempt, &c, to commit buggery
80. Whosoever attempts to commit the said abominable crime, or assaults any person with intent to commit the same, shall be liable to imprisonment for five years.

R. Slicker said :

I’m glad I came of age in more enlightened times.

Really?
When you were held in such low esteem as to be equalled with animals in law, it was enlightened you say?

Um, do you understand the term ‘buggery’ and how it differs from “normal” sexual intercourse?

JennD 1:57 pm 24 Jun 11

mouthface said :

R. Slicker said :

I can’t see anything wrong with their behaviour. As long as there was consent and the girl (or man) wasn’t coerced by the other party.

During the early to mid 1970s starting when I was 13 I had sex numerous times in the back of panel vans with people in their late teens and twenties. Never once did I think I was doing anything wrong and it didn’t harm me at all, in fact I loved every minute of it. I look back fondly on those golden years.

I suppose we live in different times nowadays with different attitudes but I can’t help thinking of the harm the actions of the police are doing to this unfortunate young couple. I’m glad I came of age in more enlightened times.

The issue of consent is the problem, as the law would not consider a 14 year old mature enough to make the right call, therefore the idea of consent is dubious. Also a big difference if the sexual partner is 21. I can’t believe you think the actions of police are harming this couple. I would say the actions of the 21 year old are harming the 14 year old. You really need to check yourself if you don’t get this. I really hope you don’t have daughters to pass on your pearls of wisdom.

Agreed it is about consent – with the difference in developmental stages between a 14 year old and a 21 year old it cannot be said that the young(er) person in a situation like this actually has the experience and ability to judge the potential consequences of sex with an older guy and so make an informed decision about their actions. I’m generalising a bit but I’d say it’s pretty rare that a 21 year old fella has the best interests of a younger person at heart as opposed to just wanted to get his end in. It’s not entirely impossible though. What is close to impossible is that the police will be able to do anything about it the illegality of it. Without knowing more information it’s hard to say whether this guy is a predator or simply a loser who can’t get chicks his own age.

Skidbladnir 1:39 pm 24 Jun 11

R. Slicker said :

During the early to mid 1970s starting when I was 13 I had sex numerous times in the back of panel vans with people in their late teens and twenties. Never once did I think I was doing anything wrong and it didn’t harm me at all, in fact I loved every minute of it.

Actually, based on your previous comment history, regardless of your age, that was a Crime even then.
See below.

CRIMES ACT, 1900 (NEW SOUTH WALES) As amended in its application to the Australian Capital Territory by Ordinances of the Territory
Reprinted as at 18 November 1983 [The below bits lasted until 1987, iirc]

Buggery and bestiality
79. Whosoever commits the abominable crime of buggery, or bestiality, with mankind, or with any animal, shall be liable to imprisonment for life or any term not less than five years.

Attempt, &c, to commit buggery
80. Whosoever attempts to commit the said abominable crime, or assaults any person with intent to commit the same, shall be liable to imprisonment for five years.

R. Slicker said :

I’m glad I came of age in more enlightened times.

Really?
When you were held in such low esteem as to be equalled with animals in law, it was enlightened you say?

mouthface 12:09 pm 24 Jun 11

R. Slicker said :

I can’t see anything wrong with their behaviour. As long as there was consent and the girl (or man) wasn’t coerced by the other party.

During the early to mid 1970s starting when I was 13 I had sex numerous times in the back of panel vans with people in their late teens and twenties. Never once did I think I was doing anything wrong and it didn’t harm me at all, in fact I loved every minute of it. I look back fondly on those golden years.

I suppose we live in different times nowadays with different attitudes but I can’t help thinking of the harm the actions of the police are doing to this unfortunate young couple. I’m glad I came of age in more enlightened times.

The issue of consent is the problem, as the law would not consider a 14 year old mature enough to make the right call, therefore the idea of consent is dubious. Also a big difference if the sexual partner is 21. I can’t believe you think the actions of police are harming this couple. I would say the actions of the 21 year old are harming the 14 year old. You really need to check yourself if you don’t get this. I really hope you don’t have daughters to pass on your pearls of wisdom.

The Frots 9:19 am 24 Jun 11

Innovation said :

The Frots said :

p1 said :

One of the more embarrassing moments of my youth was not when two police officers knocked on the window (fogged up) window of the van and asked if we were alright, but rather one week later, when the same two cops knocked on the (fogged up) windows and asked if we were alright.

You were parked there for a week? Now that was one hell of a shag!!!

One of my most embarrassing moments in my youth was as a constable knocking on the same fogged up car window twice in one week…………

LOL – damn, so it was you!!

artuoui 7:54 pm 23 Jun 11

Sometimes on RiotAct I learn a lot more about my fellow Canberrans than I really want to know.

Innovation 7:45 pm 23 Jun 11

The Frots said :

p1 said :

One of the more embarrassing moments of my youth was not when two police officers knocked on the window (fogged up) window of the van and asked if we were alright, but rather one week later, when the same two cops knocked on the (fogged up) windows and asked if we were alright.

You were parked there for a week? Now that was one hell of a shag!!!

One of my most embarrassing moments in my youth was as a constable knocking on the same fogged up car window twice in one week…………

Steve_Pedestrian 10:03 am 23 Jun 11

johnboy said :

they *could* have just been eating a pizza…

Yeah, a meat lovers

JessP 9:42 am 23 Jun 11

Ah, LSWCHP & P1, you have just given me the best laugh I have had all week!!

I have to think back to some of the things I did (and the place I did them) and smile in a embarassed oh my god kind of way. But that said I wasnt 14 at the time.

LSWCHP 9:52 pm 22 Jun 11

p1 said :

One of the more embarrassing moments of my youth was not when two police officers knocked on the window (fogged up) window of the van and asked if we were alright, but rather one week later, when the same two cops knocked on the (fogged up) windows and asked if we were alright.

One of my oldest and dearest friends, now a senior medical specialist in Sydney, was hard at it with his girlfriend in his car down by the shores of Lake BG back in the early ’80’s when he was interrupted in mid stroke by two cops knocking on the window. After hastily adjusting his clothing he stepped out of the car and the police, hugely embarrassed, asked him if he’d heard any gunfire in the previous few minutes, as they’d had a “shots fired” report on 000.

My mate told them the only bang he was aware of was the one they’d just interrupted. You just don’t find grace under pressure like that these days.. 🙂

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