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Skateboarding on memorials – Crime or caper?

By bigfeet 19 January 2009 76

Ninemsn is reporting that a group of local youths have been filmed using the Anzac Memorial as a skateboard ramp.

Apparantly the footage has been handed to the AFP. Should these miscreants immediately be drafted and shipped to Iraq.

[ED – Or, if it’s a bigger deal than kids climbing on tanks, should someone have gone out and just told them to bugger off?]

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niftydog 10:24 am 21 Jan 09

sunshine said :

oh for god’s sake – if the govt built better skate ramps etc the kids would use that…

No, they won’t.

A lot of you guys are missing the point – you could have a world class skate park in every suburb from Taylor to Banks and people would STILL want to skate on stuff that’s not meant to be skated, and most of them wouldn’t give too hoots about WHY it’s not meant to be skated. It is just part of the culture and it’s never going to change.

The ONLY solution is to build stuff that is not attractive to skaters. It’s quite simple and I’m amazed that urban planners and landscapers haven’t learnt this yet.

Xbikee 12:39 am 21 Jan 09

Thank you DMD for using the correct capitalisation of “ANZACS”. Dexi’s mentalpicture of them skating down the trenches …. mmm.

peterh 3:42 pm 20 Jan 09

Deadmandrinking said :

Thumper said :

Why not just change the way we remember the ANZACS? Instead of going on about how Gallipoli somehow secured our ‘freedom’, maybe we could use it as a lesson well learned and not send our boys headfirst into armed conflict just because the big empire of the day got themselves into a tiff

Obviously you have forgotten that you wrote the above….

I stand by it 100%.

Gallipoli had nothing to do with our freedom. I would probably have opposed supporting Britain in the war had I been alive then, since my heritage would have meant something more. I believe Australia should shun the british monarchy and become a republic.

We need to change the way we interpret what happened in order to make real progress.

Oh, but we do, we don’t have children aged 16-18 running away from home to join the “struggle against the oppressor overseas”, we don’t have a national guard that can be chucked into a conflict as a reserve, and we certainly don’t listen when england says “do this because you are a part of the commonwealth” The empire is dead. the monarchy is a figurehead only. We became a republic long ago, just not on paper.

we have a governor general, but she cannot “order” men and women of australia to fight. well, she can try, but we probably won’t listen to her.

Australia has grown up. The only hurdle we now have it to ensure that the ties with the US are for peaceful endeavours, not false action against the oppressors who have supposed Weapons of Mass Destruction.

the ages of the young men who went to war in WW1 should be a reminder to us that whole families were decimated, brothers dying together for a cause that they believed in, and the people back home believed in.

The “White Feathers” that were handed out were to shame men into going. after Vietnam, returned soldiers had buckets of blood thrown at them, they were spat upon, and hated by people who felt that they shouldn’t have gone. They were volunteers or conscripted. Both were treated equally badly, regardless of why they went.

dexi 2:55 pm 20 Jan 09

I would like to think that if the Anzac’s had skateboards, they would have found somewhere to skate, on the ships or in the trenches, regardless of the toffs.

Deadmandrinking 2:54 pm 20 Jan 09

Thumper said :

Why not just change the way we remember the ANZACS? Instead of going on about how Gallipoli somehow secured our ‘freedom’, maybe we could use it as a lesson well learned and not send our boys headfirst into armed conflict just because the big empire of the day got themselves into a tiff

Obviously you have forgotten that you wrote the above….

I stand by it 100%.

Gallipoli had nothing to do with our freedom. I would probably have opposed supporting Britain in the war had I been alive then, since my heritage would have meant something more. I believe Australia should shun the british monarchy and become a republic.

We need to change the way we interpret what happened in order to make real progress.

Thumper 2:49 pm 20 Jan 09

Sadly dexi, you are correct…

dexi 2:47 pm 20 Jan 09

War has never stopped. Only the nationality of the dead. It will repeat endlessly.

Thumper 2:46 pm 20 Jan 09

Why not just change the way we remember the ANZACS? Instead of going on about how Gallipoli somehow secured our ‘freedom’, maybe we could use it as a lesson well learned and not send our boys headfirst into armed conflict just because the big empire of the day got themselves into a tiff

Obviously you have forgotten that you wrote the above….

Deadmandrinking 2:40 pm 20 Jan 09

You have no idea what this conversation is about.

Should we view sending young men to die as having been the right thing to do?

I don’t think it was. That is what I thought we were arguing over.

Revisionist history is already in place. Too many of us believe the ANZACS built our country and secured our freedom. The fact is they did not.

I am saying that we should respect the ANZACS for their sacrifice and acknowledge the horrors of WW1 as something that should never be repeated.

wishuwell 2:38 pm 20 Jan 09

Empire was so important that Commonwealth nations supported a German king in his fight with a German Kaiser.

Thumper 2:34 pm 20 Jan 09

Having problems with me addressing your points? Obviously by your reply as you have pretty much ignored what I wrote.

I’ll say it again because you just can’t seem to grasp the reality.

Australia went to war because they were a part of the empire. It doesn’t matter what you think about monarchies because it is irrelevant. The fact is, we were part of the empire so we fought on Britain’s side.

That is history. Not revisionist idealism.

Deadmandrinking 2:27 pm 20 Jan 09

Do I really need to go into the complex mish-mash that started WW1. It was a bunch of wanky arguments over land and resource where no-one was really in the right. Diplomacy didn’t stop it because people, in general, tend to be idiots.

The Japanese wouldn’t have had the leverage without Germany. Hitler would never have risen to power without the economic sanctions that plagued his country as a result of WW1.

And no, I don’t understand fighting for a british king or queen. I am a staunch anti-monarchist.

Do you honestly think it was right to send those young aussies who had no idea about what war was to be killed? Honestly?

Thumper 2:21 pm 20 Jan 09

– Not ALL young men wanted to go to war. There was opposition.

Ture, but as I said before, most were happy to go. In fact, enthusiastic about it. the dissenters were quite small.

– Many Australians had a very unrealistic idea of war before they were sent out.

No doubt, but they were still happy to go.

– Hughes felt the need to introduce Conscription.

But it didn’t happen, so irrelevant. besides, you were the one to start screaming conscription, I just pointed out that no-one was conscripted.

– Turkey did not have an agenda to invade Australia during WW1, nor did Germany.

No, but we were a part of the empire. That’s a fact. People in Australia genuinely were fighting for king and country. Obviously you refuse to acknowledge this.

– WW1 started for some pretty stupid reasons.

Really? What were they? maybe everyone should have sat done and had a good heart to heart talk.

– WW2 had to happen, only because of WW1

Absolute rubbish. WW1 was part of the reason, but not all of it. The japanese certainly didn’t think so.

Deadmandrinking 2:13 pm 20 Jan 09

Thumper said :

Your argument has simply fallen to pieces DMD.

Go back and read what you have written. Better still, go and study the history, it will answer all the questions you ask.

You could respectfully back out. Your points are ridiculous.

FACTS:

– Not ALL young men wanted to go to war. There was opposition.

– Many Australians had a very unrealistic idea of war before they were sent out.

– Hughes felt the need to introduce Conscription.

– Turkey did not have an agenda to invade Australia during WW1, nor did Germany.

– WW1 started for some pretty stupid reasons.

– WW2 had to happen, only because of WW1.

PsydFX 2:09 pm 20 Jan 09

If I recall correctly, there was a large number who only went to war after receiving their White Feather.

wishuwell 2:07 pm 20 Jan 09

Conscripts served in PNG because at the time it was Australian territory and not considered overseas service. And a lot of conscripts actually had earlier volunteered but had been knocked back for various reasons such as medical or employment that was considered vital to the war effort.

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