Slutwalk comes to Canberra

johnboy 18 May 2011 111

With gender studies academics waging war through opinion columns on the global phenomena that is Slutwalk it was just a matter of time and now Facebook informs that Canberra women too will get their chance to dress trashy, and walk:

We are tired of being oppressed by slut-shaming; of being judged by our sexuality and feeling unsafe as a result. Being in charge of our sexual lives should not mean that we are opening ourselves to an expectation of violence, regardless if we participate in sex for pleasure or work. No one should equate enjoying sex with attracting sexual assault.

We are asking you to join us for SlutWalk, to make a unified statement about sexual assault and victims’ rights and to demand respect for all. Whether a fellow slut or simply an ally, you don’t have to wear your sexual proclivities on your sleeve, we just ask that you come. Any gender-identification, any age. Singles, couples, parents, sisters, brothers, children, friends. Come walk or roll or strut or holler or stomp with us.

Join us in our mission to spread the word that those those who experience sexual assault are not the ones at fault, without exception.”
(http://www.slutwalktoronto.com/)

Ladies we salute you.


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creative_canberran creative_canberran 12:17 am 07 Jun 11

creative_canberran said :

The people behind this are from ANU and generally the same people behind recent protests over HECS, Same-Sex Marriage and library mergers. No matter how good/valid the cause, all these have descended into nothing more than photo ops for the organisers. And like these other events, they copy an existing idea so not even original thinking. Just self serving and derivative.

I would like to make a correction to this comment on the record.

The first sentence was meant to say “The people behind this are from ANU and generally the same kind of people behind recent protests over HECS, Same-Sex Marriage and library mergers.”

It was meant to suggest that the people behind this are the same kind of people as organisers of various other recent events, that is ready to make a quick shout with a short slogan but nothing more substantive. It was not meant to suggest that the organisers of SlutWalk are the exact same people as the organisers of those previous events. Only that there are parallels in their methodology.

My apologies for any confusion and to the organisers.

Mr Gillespie Mr Gillespie 8:33 am 06 Jun 11

Erg0 said :

#107: Reflecting on the matter, I had come to the conclusion that the point of Slutwalk should be similar to what you’re saying – i.e. “if you consider someone a slut purely because they are the victim of sexual assualt, then we are all sluts”. If that is the message, then I don’t think it’s been communicated very clearly, to the point where many of the people supporting the walk (see above) don’t appear to properly understand what it’s about. That’s the danger of using such a charged word to gather attention for your cause, I suppose.

So that means EVERYONE is a victim of sexual assault. Not just the 1 in 3 that say they are. Every man and every woman is a slut, a victim of sexual assault.

willo willo 5:41 am 06 Jun 11

so how did it all go on the big day?

Erg0 Erg0 9:22 am 02 Jun 11

#107: Reflecting on the matter, I had come to the conclusion that the point of Slutwalk should be similar to what you’re saying – i.e. “if you consider someone a slut purely because they are the victim of sexual assualt, then we are all sluts”. If that is the message, then I don’t think it’s been communicated very clearly, to the point where many of the people supporting the walk (see above) don’t appear to properly understand what it’s about. That’s the danger of using such a charged word to gather attention for your cause, I suppose.

markjuliansmith markjuliansmith 6:41 am 02 Jun 11

One in four women and one in 10 men are raped in their lifetime. Over 98 percent of the perpetrators are men.

Walk down the street and reflect on one in four, one in ten.

SlutWalk – Is Not about Extreme – It is about the Ordinary – Women being perceived as extreme in either dress, movement, spatial context, culture or a combination of all, a Slut –less-Other, by Man to justify Mans atrocious behavior towards Women.

There is a reticence on the part of a significant number of women and men to support the SlutWalk because of a misinformed notion SlutWalk is about promoting the acceptance of extreme behavior – being a Slut.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

SlutWalk is about the Ordinary of the condition woman find themselves in simply because they are women.

Women are not able to traverse societal space in the same way a Man does without fear of being labeled a Slut and the terrible consequences that can and does flow from such a notion.

SlutWalk is not about promoting negative behavior it is about promoting positive behavior by bringing to the attention of Society at large the notion of being ‘a Slut’, is not only completely inequitable, for clearly it does not apply to Man, but as important is being utilized to control and subject women to Mans abuse.

SlutWalk is bringing to the fore Simply being a women whether your dressed from head toe in black keeping to the walls or in the middle of a Public square with thousands of People women can and are regarded by Man to be Sluts-less-Other (not anyone’s daughter cousin, Mother, Aunt etc) and therefore able to be subject to harassment and rape.

Activists: Authorities release Saudi woman detained for driving From Atika Shubert, May 30, 2011 CNN
“Strict segregation by sex means women in Saudi Arabia can’t travel without a male relative or take public transportation. Many women hire expensive drivers or taxis to get around.
Al Sharif said she became frustrated after she had difficulty going home one evening.
“I had to walk on the street for half an hour looking for a cab. I was harassed by every single car because it was late at night and I was walking alone,” she told CNN. “I kept calling my brother to pick me up but his phone wasn’t answering. I was crying in the street. A 32-year-old grown woman, a mother, crying like a kid because I couldn’t find anyone to bring me home.”

The above is not to focus on a particular religion but to show whether a woman is covered from head to toe it does not matter.

Be it cultural, religious based notions supporting such a state of affairs it is a complete inequity of circumstance for Women to be treated in such a manner to keep them in line – and prevent them from traversing societal space independently and in peace.

It has to Change and it Will Change for it is based on an irrational perception based on certain societal foundation text Women are less and further Women must be kept there subject to Mans will.

As Plato advised many years ago Change the Text informing new citizens of evil against Other or Change Nothing.

If SlutWalk prevents even one more rape occurring because a Male has to reflect on the nature of determining a Woman or Man as a Slut to justify such a diabolical act then we have succeeded.

Turn Up Face Up – Change the World.

Special G Special G 7:55 pm 29 May 11

Reclaim the night – http://www.isis.aust.com/rtn/

Diggety Diggety 7:27 pm 29 May 11

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

Enjoy your walk as a slut. Hopefully it changes something.

You’re completely right.

Much better to do nothing, isn’t it?

The Canadian Police officer who first made the comment was not ‘blaming victims’ or ‘justifying rape’. He was suggesting ways of preventing becoming a victim.

The comment was misunderstood by a bunch of female university students, and had a protest. Good on them I suppose; for some, the whole point of university is to look like you are ‘fightin’ the system’, it doesn’t matter on the cause. Sort of like teenagers trying to get the most ‘friends’ on facebook.

I spent a while at university and now I teach there. It will never change, it is just a phase of life.

I do think we need to bring back Comprehension 101 to all university degrees, as a core subject.

LeatherJen LeatherJen 4:34 pm 29 May 11

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

Enjoy your walk as a slut. Hopefully it changes something.

You’re completely right.

Much better to do nothing, isn’t it?

So disagreeing with being labeled a slut means I don’t care about sexual assualt?

And this walk is the only event?

You need to get out more.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 2:48 pm 29 May 11

LeatherJen said :

Enjoy your walk as a slut. Hopefully it changes something.

You’re completely right.

Much better to do nothing, isn’t it?

creative_canberran creative_canberran 2:26 pm 29 May 11

Jim Jones said :

Let me get this straight – you’re not going to support the first high-profile anti-sexual-assault campaign that’s taken place in a looong time because of …. god-knows, some quibble or other – and then you complain about the negativity of others?

I’ll be at the event while you’re still whinging about it. Which one of us is negative?

Are you serious? “The first high-profile anti-sexual-assault campaign”?

It’s one day of wearing loud 80s clothing and in the case of the Brisbane march was organised by the Australian Sex Party and Fiona Pattern, who is a known advocate of the porn industry.
You need to get out more, there are dozens of campaigns targeting this, long haul campaigns both on a broad scale and at a grass roots, peer-to-peer level.
Indeed the issue of consent specifically is now also a basic and mandatory part of the curriculum in ACT High Schools.

Slut walk deals only with the apportionment of blame, arguing against the dismissive attitude of some elements of the community that a certain manner of presentation attracts or even justifies assault.

The banners at the Melbourne event ranged from “no more slut shaming” to “my lycra, if it’s good for Madonna, it’s good for me”.

The official motto of the Canberra event is “Stop slut shaming”.
The official purpose put forward is “no victim of sexual assault should ever be blamed for a crime against them.”
The word “consent” does not appear once on the SlutWalk Facebook page.

And let’s look at this little gem from the Facebook page:

“When we consider that the ANU has one of the highest incidences of sexual assault in Australia”

Go out to Alice Springs and regional communities and tell us ANU has one of the highest incidences of sexual assault. Go out there and tell them. They’ll laugh and cry telling you how high the incidences are of sexual assaults and STIs are in pre-teens and early teens. And they don’t even dress like sluts in indigenous communities. Excessive claims don’t help the cause either.

This whole thing is just an excuse for some publicity and a way to feel like you’re part of the solution. What happens in a month? A year? A decade? If sexual violence is so bad at ANU, where is the grass-roots campaign on campus to create a culture where that isn’t tolerated? Listen to people on campus talk, it’s clear the culture is one where women are easy pickings.

One day, one walk, with an ambiguous and ill though message won’t change that.

creative_canberran creative_canberran 2:07 pm 29 May 11

Jim Jones said :

Let me get this straight – you’re not going to support the first high-profile anti-sexual-assault campaign that’s taken place in a looong time because of …. god-knows, some quibble or other – and then you complain about the negativity of others?

I’ll be at the event while you’re still whinging about it. Which one of us is negative?

Also, still waiting for an explanation on what the statement by the ANU Women’s Club means.

Specifically:

1. This stereotype: “hit the town in our classiest sassiest lady gear. This means HEELS pretties”
So what, you can’t be classy in flats?
Sounds to me like some stereotyping based on what people where… surely not?

2. “UniLodge girls can be classy as f***.”
Classy as [expletive that also serves as an aggressive word for sex].
So why not just stop at class. Why classy as f**k?

Watson Watson 1:10 pm 29 May 11

I wonder if some of the opponents of this event will organise an anti-slutwalk? They could all come dressed up in Victorian (the era, not the state) outfits and boo scantily clad women (or men). That would be hilarious! (This is not meant as a statement of any kind! Just thought I’d try to get some humour back into the thread. Though I admit it’s a pretty poor effort!)

LeatherJen LeatherJen 12:54 pm 29 May 11

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

It would be nice for something like this to separate the concepts of ‘slut’ and ‘unsafe’. It also isn’t clear whether the ‘slut’ component is about empowering womens’ sexuality, trying to gain social acceptance for behaviours that some consider undesirable or simply shock value to draw attention to the cause.

I haven’t decided whether I will participate or not yet.

Wouldn’t it be even nicer to put these sorts of minor semantic and philosophical quibbles aside and focus on supporting a high-profile event that aims to send a big message that sexual assault is never justified, no matter the circumstances?

Minor to you maybe. As a woman, these things are actually important to me.

That’s great. In that case, you can organise your own – ideologically pure – high-profile event that gets bucketloads of media attention and raises the public profile of issues of sexual assault within the community.

Let me know how that turns out.

It would be a wonderful change to actually see a positive comment from you one day. Tearing people down and working in big words as though this is an ANU Arts class is really rather sad.

Let me get this straight – you’re not going to support the first high-profile anti-sexual-assault campaign that’s taken place in a looong time because of …. god-knows, some quibble or other – and then you complain about the negativity of others?

I’ll be at the event while you’re still whinging about it. Which one of us is negative?

The problem is that I don’t want to be called a slut. I don’t like the term, and don’t think it is appropriate to label women in that way. It’s derogatory and hurtful.

Yes, it is a good cause, but the name is really just shock value. It also won’t change the opinions of men who believe that how we dress invites unwanted attention.

You clearly like the shock value, and also seem to take pleasure in the discomfort of others who while opposing violence don’t wish to be labeled a slut.

Enjoy your walk as a slut. Hopefully it changes something.

matt31221 matt31221 12:29 pm 29 May 11

As long as there is no man hating feminist rhetoric I’m all for the slutwalk as stated before!!

There has been a bit of man hating feminism going around lately. Some chick on JJJ radio was on her high horse recently regarding the defence scandals – and was openly knocking ‘the myth’ of mateship in male Australian soldiers. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Not to mention the move by some lady to ban legal prostitution in the ACT because the prostitutes are ‘helpless victims’ used by men. Give Aussie blokes a fair go I say, stop dividing the sexes male and female are the same species.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 11:21 am 29 May 11

LeatherJen said :

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

Jim Jones said :

LeatherJen said :

It would be nice for something like this to separate the concepts of ‘slut’ and ‘unsafe’. It also isn’t clear whether the ‘slut’ component is about empowering womens’ sexuality, trying to gain social acceptance for behaviours that some consider undesirable or simply shock value to draw attention to the cause.

I haven’t decided whether I will participate or not yet.

Wouldn’t it be even nicer to put these sorts of minor semantic and philosophical quibbles aside and focus on supporting a high-profile event that aims to send a big message that sexual assault is never justified, no matter the circumstances?

Minor to you maybe. As a woman, these things are actually important to me.

That’s great. In that case, you can organise your own – ideologically pure – high-profile event that gets bucketloads of media attention and raises the public profile of issues of sexual assault within the community.

Let me know how that turns out.

It would be a wonderful change to actually see a positive comment from you one day. Tearing people down and working in big words as though this is an ANU Arts class is really rather sad.

Let me get this straight – you’re not going to support the first high-profile anti-sexual-assault campaign that’s taken place in a looong time because of …. god-knows, some quibble or other – and then you complain about the negativity of others?

I’ll be at the event while you’re still whinging about it. Which one of us is negative?

Robertson Robertson 11:09 am 29 May 11

Could somebody please explain to me, what is the purpose of wearing shirts or tops which expose large expanses of chest flesh, including breasts and cleavage?

I don’t see blokes doing it (not where I work, although I’m aware of the hairy chest/gold bling look some tradies affect), but some women turn up at meetings wearing clothes which have clearly been deliberately designed to put her breasts on show.
As far as I am concerned, the woman wearing clothes that expose her breasts (quite apart from being horribly unprofessional) has chosen to make a spectacle of herself and *is* most certainly asking for her breasts to be ogled.
I think they only get upset if the wrong person ogles them.

On the other hand, a psychologist of my acquaintance reckons women don’t wear sexualised apparel for the purpose of attracting men – they do it specifically to demoralise other women.

Watson Watson 9:21 am 29 May 11

The_Bulldog said :

@Watson – Who (here) is blaming the victim? Show me where people have stated this is normal, let alone even marginally acceptable? I get the impression that you think this is an issue buried within a broader trend of sexism, when I fail to see how those issues are at all relevant…

Don’t get me wrong – it’s kinda like a zombie invasion when dead things rise up to attack the innocent, and zombies are cool. Just a shame that this man-hating vitriol, while clearly dead, actually seems to gain traction amongst elements of the community who are clearly smart enough to know better.

Perhaps I’ve missed the bit whereby men (other than the odd numpty) have sated that sexual assault is something women bring on themselves. Perhaps, if this bit can’t be found, we need to pleasantly agree on most aspects of you discussions, but disagree that this is a broad problem with it’s roots embedded in men seeking the upper-hand in the still raging battle of the sexes.

To hand out leaflets on how to avoid rape with the advice “don’t dress like a slut” is basically blaming the victim before the crime has even happened. And that is all that the organisers of the rallies are saying.

If I came across as relating this to a broader sexism problem, that is probably because to me this is reminiscent of the good ole days when women were regarded as the guardians of virtue and the punishment for non-compliance was to be cast out of the tribe (ie. lose your right to protection). I stress reminiscent, because we have indeed come a long way since then. But maybe that’s why I – having grown up in a post-feminist society – am so shocked when I find examples of remnants of this attitude still being supported by SOME men. And when they are men in positions of power or the ones women are supposed to turn to when their rights have been violated, it can become somewhat problematic.

I expect to see as many men at the rally as women. Calling someone a sexist for trying to point out inequalities (whether they are about actions of attitudes) is a nice try to kill the debate.

The_Bulldog The_Bulldog 8:49 am 29 May 11

@Watson – Who (here) is blaming the victim? Show me where people have stated this is normal, let alone even marginally acceptable? I get the impression that you think this is an issue buried within a broader trend of sexism, when I fail to see how those issues are at all relevant…

Don’t get me wrong – it’s kinda like a zombie invasion when dead things rise up to attack the innocent, and zombies are cool. Just a shame that this man-hating vitriol, while clearly dead, actually seems to gain traction amongst elements of the community who are clearly smart enough to know better.

Perhaps I’ve missed the bit whereby men (other than the odd numpty) have sated that sexual assault is something women bring on themselves. Perhaps, if this bit can’t be found, we need to pleasantly agree on most aspects of you discussions, but disagree that this is a broad problem with it’s roots embedded in men seeking the upper-hand in the still raging battle of the sexes.

fgzk fgzk 7:59 am 29 May 11

I-filed said :

johnboy said :

C’mon CC, where’s your sense of fun?

It isn’t a fun occasion though … it’s about a very serious topic. Somehow I think it’s too difficult to put across the message in this “format”!

+1 If the protest becomes the issue then you run the risk of losing you message.

creative_canberran creative_canberran 10:54 pm 28 May 11

From some of the organisers of Canberra’s slut-walk comes a new group to show us Canberra boys something, described as:

“As a response to the Gentlemans Club of UniLodge, we now have the Ladies Club! Once a month we ladies are going to hit the town in our classiest sassiest lady gear. This means HEELS pretties. Let’s show all the Canberra boys that UniLodge girls can be classy as f***.

Welcome to the Ladies Club.”

If you thought making sense of “reclaiming” the word slut was difficult, try working out what being “classy as f*** means”?

Source: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_213395615349327

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