21 November 2006

Smoke free in 10 days

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Katy Gallagher has put out a media release to point out that the new smoking bans in bars are coming into force on 1 December, which is not far away at all.

Then we’ll find out if the non-smokers really have been waiting at home for the air to clear.

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Perhaps the bar trade in NZ ‘recovered’, but all those other jobs that disappeared certainly didn’t. For example in many large companies that had a lunch room, the counter/cook staff all got the boot after the downturn as smokers buggered off outside and never bothered with the caff.
That’s 4 full time and 2 part time jobs gone(in the place I worked)multiply that by the other 60 odd stores in the company, by the number competitors and the others in different trades and how many jobs were lost? Amount of people who quite as a result. Bugger all. Lives saved? Nil.
Amount of non smokers dying from cancer? Same as before.

Whens the Riotact X-mas party FB ?

I Agree, Boo + Hiss. Will this affect pub patronage? I think so. I smoke & I go to the pub every Fri night for a few hours of pool and some beer. In preparation for Dec 1 I just bought a pool table (should be here tomorrow) and put in a beer fridge. So my local will be loosing the business of myself and 1/2 dozen mates every Fri night. Even my non-smoking mates will be coming to my house on a Fri night.

link [ED- *sigh*]
BBC carries a formula for “beer goggles effect” where by the smokiness of the room is one parameter. This means all those good looking persons of the opposite sex are now going to look a little less attractive without the smoke?

Now that’s just wrong.

No more cigar appreciation nights at Daniels (french moroccan) restaraunt in manuka.

Yay, no more stinky cigarettes in enclosed areas.

Absent Diane10:23 am 22 Nov 06

As a smoker (sometimes fulltime, sometimes social) I am kind of against.. but perhaps it is time for us as a society to move on. I am mostly against.

Anyway what was it that you said thumper?

hahaa.. no but some clubs dont like to let patrons in after a certain time etc…

I’m a “reformed smoker” and I’m with Thumper. Boo Hiss.

Pubs need smoking. Smelly clothes and a fug of reeking smoke is part of the pub experience. I’m going to miss it. *sniff*

blingblingbears9:59 am 22 Nov 06

curfew? what curfew? is there now one in Canberra?

All this debate about smoking is driving me to wanting one!

Time to unchain myself from my desk and wander downstairs!

I say ban cars.

They’re far worse on your lungs than a smoko.

Ah bugger it, I’m with Thumper…..boo hiss

I hear that the next item on the Standope agenda is to ban the service and consumpion of food and alcohol in outdoor areas where smoking is allowed. Seems wierd – why wouldn’t you just ban somoking instead? I’ll bet places like Easts will be thrilled, having invested in outdoor areas to accommodate their smoking clients.

I agree with Thumper…

Boo + Hiss…

Anyone else a fan of the new charcoal filter Winfields?

And probably half the people supporting the smoke laws are reformed smokers!
Worst non smokers of them all!

Go suck on a tailpipe – you’ll get far worse “carcenogenic” fumes from that than a cigarette.

barking toad9:19 am 22 Nov 06

Not true VYV8, wood fires are good too. Like the one I lit last week to combat the cold snap caused by global warmening.

About bloody time – you stinky smokers can keep your cancer sticks to yourself.

Good smoke comes only from tyres.

People will stop going to clubs and pub when they ban drinking, not smoking!
I imagine there was this same argument when they banned smoking on planes, “People won’t fly anymore if they can’t smoke.”

How many people duck down to the pub for a few durries, and don’t drink? Probably a few losers, but the sooner we ostracise them from the community the better.

Even Italy, that bastion of smoking has banned it.

For a full list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans

as long as they never ban the bundy all will be fine in my world….

hmmm I guess my clubbing days have finally come to an end!
**sobs**

Will the govt be compensating clubs/pubs that lose revenue from banning smoking?

How much additional money (above their normal tax burden) have the clubs/pubs contributed to the health coffers to compensate for the care and treatment of smoking related health issues. Well, I guess they can’t contibute to the health whiners as well as the anti-gambling whiners.

NZ has been smoke free indoors for some time now … while there was an initial down turn in trade the numbers are now back up and everyone is quite happy with the legislation. Similar results in Ireland.

Get used to it, Canberra is not the first place to introduce smoke free indoors and it won’t be the last.

Ill be going out with a few hundred dollars worth of cubans and clove cigarettes.

Not much of a smoker (3 to 4 a week on a bad week) – but ill stick it to the man just for that night.

Business will no doubt suffer – but theres no smoking regulations around my brasier in the back yard – and the crowd and atmosphere are soo much better.

hmm what will smokers now do when at a club with curfew not allowing anyone in after a certain time and dont have outside facilities to cater for the smoker?
Could be an interesting effect it could have on business, but on the flip side I see the need for the ban to happen too!

I don’t go to clubs anyway so it doesn’t bother me 🙂 I’ll still smoke in my backyard.

Oh boo hoo.

I’d be interested to see how many people will be outside smoking the day that comes into effect, as well as a “head count” from the first month compared to the month before it came in.

What can I say? I like figures.

Being a social smoker, only about once a month, I also say ‘Yay! for non-stinky clothes and hair!’

Will the govt be compensating clubs/pubs that lose revenue from banning smoking?
I know of one that closed after the smoking legislation requirements effectively banned smoking at that venue, and patronage diminished to the point they lost money and closed.
Also seen business fail/job losses after indoor smoking was banned in other countries.
But lets ignore that, as it doesn’t fit the anti-smoking crusaders propoganda.

yeah, it is a good thing, much better for non smokers health. At least a few clubs have built outside areas.

YAY for non-stinky hair and clothes after a night out!

It’s just you, threeze.

Although they are sterile in the sense that they don’t stink as much.

is it just me, or are smoke free bars pretty sterile?

Suck it smokers!!! The silent majority wins this one.

ps. I will be going out that night too!

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