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johnboy 19 May 2011 29

The Liberals’ Jeremy Hanson is aghast and agape following comments by the Chiefly Katy Gallagher about her priorities at the Monaro Marriott:

In extraordinary comments from the Health Minister of the ACT, the new Chief Minister, Katy Gallagher, has labelled smoking as a greater health problem than the use or prevalence of illicit drugs in the prison, Shadow Health Minister Jeremy Hanson said today.

This morning Katy Gallagher told the Health Estimates committee hearing;

‘I should say that out of the Burnet report and there is a lot of interest around illicit drugs. The most concerning thing for me around that report was the level of smoking, and if there is a health issue in the jail it is smoking, and for me it’s how to we deal with that, how do we encourage people to stop smoking.

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The Frots The Frots 10:49 am 20 May 11

PM said :

The Frots said :

Pommy bastard said :

The Frots said :

Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘pure heroin’ (it simply doesn’t exist) your are trying to bait us aren’t you? I mean, really……………………….

It does exist. It is used, at a pharmaceutical grade, in medicine in the UK.

Sorry PM – but no. Heroin in any form does not have 100% purity. It can’t. There are always ‘impurities’ within the substance, no matter how pritine the conditions. On a street level, ‘pure heroin’ is heroin that is between 88 to 94% pure – you don’t get any higher than that.

For what you are talking about – the purity may increase – but it is still impossible to get 100% purity.

What do you mean?? I hadn’t made a single comment!

DOH! Sorry PM – blame my typing fingers! I meant of course Pommy B.

PM PM 10:45 am 20 May 11

The Frots said :

Pommy bastard said :

The Frots said :

Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘pure heroin’ (it simply doesn’t exist) your are trying to bait us aren’t you? I mean, really……………………….

It does exist. It is used, at a pharmaceutical grade, in medicine in the UK.

Sorry PM – but no. Heroin in any form does not have 100% purity. It can’t. There are always ‘impurities’ within the substance, no matter how pritine the conditions. On a street level, ‘pure heroin’ is heroin that is between 88 to 94% pure – you don’t get any higher than that.

For what you are talking about – the purity may increase – but it is still impossible to get 100% purity.

What do you mean?? I hadn’t made a single comment!

The Frots The Frots 9:21 pm 19 May 11

Pommy bastard said :

The Frots said :

Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘pure heroin’ (it simply doesn’t exist) your are trying to bait us aren’t you? I mean, really……………………….

It does exist. It is used, at a pharmaceutical grade, in medicine in the UK.

Sorry PM – but no. Heroin in any form does not have 100% purity. It can’t. There are always ‘impurities’ within the substance, no matter how pritine the conditions. On a street level, ‘pure heroin’ is heroin that is between 88 to 94% pure – you don’t get any higher than that.

For what you are talking about – the purity may increase – but it is still impossible to get 100% purity.

cleo cleo 8:59 pm 19 May 11

I can’t understand why the government can’t treat people affected by drugs in prison, I was watching a programme last night, where in England it showed a women’s prison, these prisoners were able to go into detox and receive other forms of treatment.
Why can’t we do this here? Instead of giving them clean needles, it defeats the purpose of locking them up, as soon as these drug affected prisoners get out, they will be doing crime once again to feed their addiction.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 7:53 pm 19 May 11

The Frots said :

Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘pure heroin’ (it simply doesn’t exist) your are trying to bait us aren’t you? I mean, really……………………….

It does exist. It is used, at a pharmaceutical grade, in medicine in the UK.

farnarkler farnarkler 7:32 pm 19 May 11

Please enlighten me; you’re not allowed to smoke in a restaurant, pub, bar or government building but ‘guests’ at the Hume Hilton are allowed to smoke inside the buildings there??

Thumper Thumper 5:56 pm 19 May 11

Frankly, it is an extraordinary comment.

p1 p1 5:46 pm 19 May 11

Does anyone else here picture a muppet when they read a story about Jeremy Hanson?

The Frots The Frots 5:39 pm 19 May 11

Cheap said :

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) itself isn’t actually as bad as people make out – it’s the impurities, addictiveness and overdose potential that causes the damage. A person could theoretically take pure heroin in a controlled environment their whole lives without suffering any ill-effects.

Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘pure heroin’ (it simply doesn’t exist) your are trying to bait us aren’t you? I mean, really……………………….

anonymoose anonymoose 5:39 pm 19 May 11

Cheap said :

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) itself isn’t actually as bad as people make out – it’s the impurities, addictiveness and overdose potential that causes the damage. A person could theoretically take pure heroin in a controlled environment their whole lives without suffering any ill-effects.

The main problem with heroin is the stigma.

Tooks Tooks 4:16 pm 19 May 11

damien haas said :

Noone ever burgled my house to pay for a pack of cool refreshing Laramies.

That might change if they keep raising the prices…

fgzk fgzk 4:16 pm 19 May 11

damien haas said :

Noone ever burgled my house to pay for a pack of cool refreshing Laramies.

No but if you had smokes, they would have taken them. If people didn’t throw their good butts on the ground, then you might well have a rush of cigarette related crime. If heroin could be found lying on the ground, break-ins would plummet.

Cheap Cheap 4:09 pm 19 May 11

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) itself isn’t actually as bad as people make out – it’s the impurities, addictiveness and overdose potential that causes the damage. A person could theoretically take pure heroin in a controlled environment their whole lives without suffering any ill-effects.

damien haas damien haas 3:36 pm 19 May 11

Noone ever burgled my house to pay for a pack of cool refreshing Laramies.

p1 p1 3:03 pm 19 May 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Not sure that people can suffer effects of passive heroin injection.

My thoughts exactly.

In the past I have often thought that it might be cost effective to provide prisoners with not just clean needles, but free smack as well? No one is going to smuggle it in if they can get it for free inside, and every fatal overdose* is a massive saving to the community…

* – I am of course not entirely serious in this suggestion.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:59 pm 19 May 11

Pommy bastard said :

Hmmm.. if someone can prove they got cancer from second hand smoking at the Hume Hilton, and sue the govt, they could make a packet out of it.

this.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 2:56 pm 19 May 11

Hmmm.. if someone can prove they got cancer from second hand smoking at the Hume Hilton, and sue the govt, they could make a packet out of it.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:54 pm 19 May 11

Not sure that people can suffer effects of passive heroin injection.

PBO PBO 2:47 pm 19 May 11

I can totally understand where she is coming from, can you imagine how distressing it is for a guard to open a cell and find a dead prisoner with a durry hanging out of their arm? And one could imagine how they got that ciggy in there in the first place.

The Frots The Frots 2:39 pm 19 May 11

Smoking in jails is a major concern………..? Well stick a fork in me…………………….I’m done!

Whats next…………………..the colour ‘drab green’ is too depressing for them? The use of ‘harsh tones’ must be stopped immediately lest we denegrate them?

Get a grip…………….like, a real firm one! Zero drug policy – full stop! As for ‘smoking’, use it as a behavioural tool – be good or ‘no baccy’ for little Bubba!

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