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So Belconnenites, how are those buses?

By johnboy - 3 June 2009 38

[First filed: May 25, 2009 @ 15:07]

By now some of you have used the new bus arrangements in Belconnen.

All working smoothly? Or otherwise?

UPDATED: With real rain falling this morning it’s been put to the real test. Thoughts now?

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Tempestas 3:00 pm 06 Jun 09

Oops I actually tried to post that last night in a hurry. Read yesterday for today

Tempestas 2:59 pm 06 Jun 09

Today bus stop #3 at the Cameron Ave Station was closed, with a small note saying closed until further notice use stop #2. Ok its a pain, its raining, but off I go.

After a bit, others join ends up about 20odd people trying to keep mostly dry under one shelter.

Then in the space of about 30 seconds 4 buses show up followed 10 seconds later by another 3, someone obviously forgot to tell drivers who try to stop at fenced off stop, then the clusterf#$%k happens.

Several cars try to enter the Labour club car-park this results in buses two wide and about 4 deep then i spy my bus stopping at the closed off stop. Ok fair enough, out into the rain stand in front of bus to wave it down.

By the time I sit down its bus log-jam, cars trying to enter and exit labour club car-park.

Now nothing dangerous seemed to happen, but if this is the standard of the “temporary” measure, its only a matter of time before it does. Only slightly confused punter coming out of labour club, or running late for a get together etc and its all going to turn out nasty.

This could end up being Stanhope’s hospital demolition. I really hope it doesn’t get that bad, but as it stands.

shanefos 10:59 am 03 Jun 09

Urgh! I’ll most likely have to change buses there this afternoon. Here’s hoping BOM is correct in saying the rain periods will ease this afternoon. Then again, I could just use my umbrella…

Tempestas 10:36 am 03 Jun 09

So its rainy today, and I drove because the idea of changing buses on Cameron Ave and getting caught in the traffic desperate for a car park didn’t thrill me.

Any reports on what the new “Bus Stations” were like with their lack of shelter, poor traffic management and other “improvements” this morning.

I wonder if these new arrangements have led to more car trips?

taco 1:42 pm 28 May 09

frontrow said :

taco @22,

18 months for a temporary structure is nothing in Canberra. We had a temporary parliament building for 51 years.

Sorry to double post, but I notice that they didn’t put the politician’s onto the side of the street in temporary shelters and knock down Old Parliament House before they even started building New Parliament House

Also, I caught the bus this morning and the decision to put the stop where the 300 series picks up passengers on the way to the City is very poorly thought out – it’s really far away! They should have put it at the other end closer to the red bridge, opposite where the 300 series drops off before heading into the suburbs.

taco 1:35 pm 28 May 09

frontrow said :

taco @22,

18 months for a temporary structure is nothing in Canberra. We had a temporary parliament building for 51 years.

Isn’t The Lodge a temporary residence too?

PM 12:17 pm 28 May 09

Tempestas said :

Of course come summer we can all increase our skin-cancer risk given the lack of shade as well. I haven’t seen any bins yet, so I’m guessing that litter will magically dissapear as well.

Other than Westfield is there anyone who will benefit from all this?

Other developers will benefit.

Note the number of blocks of land sold in the town centre. “Right next to the interchange” had a nice ring to it, so they increased the number of interchanges by 3 🙂

Note also the reduction in parking. Anyone wanting to sell parking will make a motza.

The whole thing reeks. It’s about this govt needing money, so they’ll sell up all available resources at once for a quick buck.

Tempestas 11:25 am 28 May 09

Of course come summer we can all increase our skin-cancer risk given the lack of shade as well. I haven’t seen any bins yet, so I’m guessing that litter will magically dissapear as well.

Other than Westfield is there anyone who will benefit from all this?

Gobbo 11:17 am 28 May 09

damien haas said :

I went and had a look at the new bus shortchanges yesterday. My first impression was ‘i dont want to be catching a bus when it rains’.

Ha! As if.

🙂

frontrow 9:47 am 28 May 09

taco @22,

18 months for a temporary structure is nothing in Canberra. We had a temporary parliament building for 51 years.

damien haas 9:38 am 28 May 09

I went and had a look at the new bus shortchanges yesterday. My first impression was ‘i dont want to be catching a bus when it rains’. The signage needs to be improved as well. The shortchange on Lathlain st needs clearer signage concerning which services operate at each stop.

Tempestas – dont worry about the articulated buses. They are all being replaced with buses that are longer than normal buses and steer from the front and back. They also hold a third less passengers than the articulated buses.

shanefos 9:31 am 28 May 09

Tempestas said :

BTW I see that my prior prediction about all buses not stopping at at all belco stops is already true at least for school buses, so precedent set, it will only be a matter of time before some routes don’t serve all stops. It will be claimed to improve timings and be sold as an improvement. Wait and see.

I know of at least one route that, if they miss all of the lights and have to stop at each stop on the way through the “interchange”, now takes up to 10 minutes longer.

And how long until there are traffic lights installed at the intersection of Chandler St. and Cameron Ave?

Tempestas 9:10 am 28 May 09

I note this morning that they are bolting on some securtity cameras on the lightpoles at the Cameron Ave stops, guessing they aren’t actually connected (unless wireless) and are there for the sense of being safer.
Given the amount of traffic on that street I really hope no one gets hit but as they avoided adding a pedestrian crossing I fear its only a matter of time.

Additionally it would appear that the stops aren’t actually big enough for the articulated buses to stop in.

Which government $%^^&* thought this was a good idea?

Ceej1973 7:43 am 28 May 09

James T Kirk said :

If you’re stuck on the buses, it is only because you have crashed the car….. 🙂

I guess that was just a joke. If not, and one has crashed thier car that bad that it can’t be driven, then they shouldn’t be driving. Get on a bus and save someone elses life!

CanRaiders 11:15 pm 27 May 09

Well as a regular bus user in the belco area, the new interchanges are a terrible. The shelters wont shelter much, the seat are very cold to seat on (thats if you are lucky enough to get one of them). I also more worried about those older less mobile people, who now have to get off accross from magnet mart to walk a greater distance than before and it’s not even undercover.

I suggest the minister gets out in mid winter and try and use the new interchanges

TP 3000 7:36 pm 26 May 09

taco said :

All major roads as they get their scheduled resurfacing are having bike lanes installed as part of the governments plan to get less people driving and onto buses or cycling.

Then when that road is next due for resurfacing, the bit of road where the bike lane is won’t be resealed, thus saving costs.

But expect an accident at one of the bus stations in the next few months. But apparently ACTION are scared that someone is going to be hit while walking within a bus station.

taco 6:18 pm 26 May 09

Thumper said :

Kramer,

It’s not a rant about the bike lane, more about the stupid idea to take a perfectly well functioning road and turn it into a bottleneck, which it without doubt will be.

The bike path runs right along side the road so bike riders would not be inconvenienced by it’s direction.

And I didn’t mention buses at all so I have no idea why you brought that up?

The bike lane only runs parallel the road for a short distance before veering off around the lake again with no exit onto the road, and is often congested with walkers/dogs/joggers/casual riders/grannies who freak out and dive onto the grass and break their hips if you try and pass them at 10kmph/etc

All major roads as they get their scheduled resurfacing are having bike lanes installed as part of the governments plan to get less people driving and onto buses or cycling.

Onto the actual topic, I haven’t used the new bus interchange yet as I usually cycle to commute, but they have closed down the bus stop nearest to my place as a result, so the closest stop is now about 1km away instead of 500m.
I also disapprove of the “temporary” interchange being in service for a minimum of 18 months (november 2010)

James T Kirk 10:36 am 26 May 09

If you’re stuck on the buses, it is only because you have crashed the car….. 🙂

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