15 June 2009

So now we're Bangladesh? Women's Micro-Finance comes to the ACT

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Katy Gallagher has an endless capacity to surprise.

This morning she’s announced that the ACT is getting an “ACT Women’s Micro-credit Program” in the style of the Grameen Bank.

    “The program here in Canberra will provide opportunities for local women on low incomes to increase their economic independence and reduce social security dependency.”

    Ms Gallagher said the ACT Government would begin working in partnership with community organisations later this year to disperse the loans.

Now don’t get me wrong, my heart is as warmed by third world micro-finance programs as anyone. Heck I’ve loaned money in the Kiva program myself.

But I do wonder if our banking system is so broken, and our women so discriminated against in the ACT that we need something like this here? Or is this just proof that the Labor Government has finally reduced us to third world status?

(I also note that the micro-finance schemes operated to wild applause around the world are not Government operated.)

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Oh Noes – The baby debate.

“It takes a village to raise a child, and a child to raze a village”

Who stayed home with your kids when you decided to have them?

Hmmm, three grand. That would cover, let’s see, a dominatrix outfit and some leather cuffs, and an ad in the Times?

I’m just going to ignore the arguments over who’s more hard done by in the men vs women debate. That way lies stupidity.

Without providing any detail on how the scheme will run, it’s impossible to know if it will make a difference in the ACT. Hopefully it will be a good thing. Interesting that it’s linked to the grants scheme designed to get women back into the workforce after having children. I wonder if this has a similar aim in reducing long-term welfare dependence for women who’ve been out of the workforce for a long period?

amarooresident2 said :

hax said :

More discrimination..

How so?

Why isn’t the scheme being offered to men in the same situation?

KIVA loans are good. I loaned for housing not business, and never expected to be paid back, but it is getting paid off – slowly but surely.

The more I look at it, the more this program looks like a crock of fertilizer.

– $150k over 4 years (so approximately $37.5k a year)
– For loans up to $3k (so about 10-15 women per year will benefit from the program),
– It’s gender based (for no apparent reason,
– It’s going to be administered by community organisations (not financial institutions)
– It appears to unconnected with any business education and training.

I can hardly wait to hear how ti all works out.

On the up side, I have just made some KIVA loans and now feel positively saintly.

Steady Eddie2:49 pm 15 Jun 09

The day we start looking to Bangladesh for financial ideas we might as well give up.

Igglepiggle said :

wasn’t it the NINJA loans (no income, no job) that got us into this global financial pickle to start with? More credit sure does sound like a good idea then…

Partially…

But this is what I said earlier re targetting a programme appropriately. In Bangladesh, microcredit was handed out to women because they were largely outside the financial system. Also, many men had to travel to different villages or to town to find work. The microcredit was used to purchase things like seeds and a shovel etc, and this could be paid back ie teach a person to catch a fish. The women paid the money back because they appreciated the opportunity to better themselves and inch out of poverty. Completely different scenario in the ACT.

Pommy bastard2:01 pm 15 Jun 09

Sounds like a load of old hippy bollocks to me.

wasn’t it the NINJA loans (no income, no job) that got us into this global financial pickle to start with? More credit sure does sound like a good idea then…

housebound said :

This IS government, don’t forgt. You couldn’t do it without a 20 page application form.

Good. The last thing we need is a bunch of nufty’s flogging three grand a pop to every witch redneck and nut bag that comes a running.

This IS government, don’t forgt. You couldn’t do it without a 20 page application form.

I’d say you would need statistics showing that transgender and overly sensitive male populations of Canberra are underrepresented in business and finance, and then a specific loans program may be set up for those target groups.

Before we do start poo pooing this idea, I think it might be prudent to wait and see what partnerships are formed with community organisations and a few other details.

To me it sounds like a grants style program being administered and reported to/from by a bunch of community organisatiosn alot lcoser to the coal face than the Govt. In the absence of no detailson merit, i would say to let this pilot program run, and see what comes from it.

There may finally be variety in the handicrafts available at the Bus Depot markets for once.

So do transgender applicants have a chance? And what about men with an overly sensitive side to their personality?

amarooresident212:38 pm 15 Jun 09

hax said :

More discrimination..

How so?

Good on Katy for immediately providing evidence that we do, in fact, require the power of veto over the Legislative Assembly vested in the federal Government.

I’ve long admired the Grameen Bank, and once enjoyed listening to its founder speak, but this policy is way off track.

Any programme needs to be tailored to its audience. In the ACT, the programme shouldn’t be based on sex – the Treasurer being a woman is hardly evidence of women being disadvantaged in the money/economics side of things (unless she’s trying to hint at something, but I’m personally sure it’s nothing to do with her sex).

More discrimination..

“The idea of offering small loans to individuals or very small business enterprises to assist in the creation or expansion of micro-enterprises originated in India in 1976 through the Grameen Bank,” Ms Gallagher said.

Good to see Katy’s advisors have done their research on Grameen Bank properly. Last time I looked, Chittagong was in Bangladesh which is not part of India.

Inappropriate12:00 pm 15 Jun 09

I wonder what the eligibility and assessment criteria are.

Clearly the economic environment is perfect to be starting your own micro-business right now.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy11:33 am 15 Jun 09

If you can’t get a credit card, even in this environment, you should NOT be borrowing money anyway.

How does lending people money reduce their social security dependency anyway? I suspect your average dole recipient isn’t so worried about how competitive their margin loan rate is anyway…

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