19 November 2008

So tell us more about you - Education

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So, the more we know about RiotACT readers the more advertising we can sell which, in the long run, means more and better content for you to consume and argue about.

Today we’d like to know about the educational achievements of RiotACT readers:

Highest level of education completed?

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Finished yr 12 in 1987, eleven years in the plebs and ten years here in UK in private industry. Nothing amazing but kept me off the streets.

Yeah el, I did notice that. Although as JB suggests, you do a TAFE component, so it is essentially a Diploma.

I’d file a trade certificate under Diploma myself.

Irrelevant to the poll anyway p1 – trades aren’t deemed as ‘education’ it would seem.

The life experience gained by plenty of mechanics during their apprenticeship can be just as limited. As you say, there are a variety of people in every occupational subset of the community

I get irritated by people who assume that extended stay at uni = textbook knowledge only/no life experience. Maybe it does for some, but hey, you can find sheltered individuals in all walks of life.

Well, I don’t know how old, do I? You could be in nappies for all I know.

*guffaw*

How do you know how old I am, Granny?

It’s the thirtieth anniversary of Jonestown today, so I could be very very old.

I am pretty sure I would have been a class or twenty ahead of you!

*chuckle*

I thought I recognised you. We were in class together, remember unit 2 “Why those smartass egghead types are turning the country into immoral homosexuals”, with the guest lecture from Alan Jones?

Hey, that’s the one I went to!

Most people I’ve met who claim to have attended the ‘University of Hard Knocks’ actually hadn’t gone there at all. They’d all just done diplomas at the TAFE of Too Difficult To Bother Trying (most with specialisations in anti-intellectualism).

I think I would rather vote for Passy. At least his chip is likeable.

: )

Gungahlin Al9:25 am 20 Nov 08

Suddenly I feel so….. succinct!

LOL!

I’ll be getting my year 10 certificate in a week or so. Then I’ll be set…

“Yea…It’s a little hard when the Government of the day sends in the Waffen SS with their Rottweilers, riot shields and bad manners or given fact that the little despot almost casualised the entire nation and allowed the off shoring of any industry that wasn’t bolted down, then again I’ve been on the waterfront now for 11 years.”

Ha ha ha! Seen anybody about this?

Sooo…. Can’t hold down a job but wants to run for elected office…

Right….

Yea…It’s a little hard when the Government of the day sends in the Waffen SS with their Rottweilers, riot shields and bad manners or given fact that the little despot almost casualised the entire nation and allowed the off shoring of any industry that wasn’t bolted down, then again I’ve been on the waterfront now for 11 years.

Can’t hold down a job?

Personally and I don’t intend to offend anyone but the problem with parliament apart from that 70% of the Liberal Party are Corporate Lawyers and a large percentage of the ALP have no life experience outside of ‘text books'(apart from having to eat chicken noodles five days a week to pay for their Degrees) is that the parliamentary membership are no longer sought from the ‘Coalface’ they are recruited from sideshow alley where they most probably were employed as snake oil sharman and fortune tellers or given a leg up by some old factional war lord.

It’s no wonder todays crop of parliamentarians are obsessed with worshiping market forces as if it were some kind of pagan deity.

Congrats, Bubzie. So it’s formal time of the year again? Always makes diverting entertainment to stumble across schoolies arriving for these functions. Some very inventive and creative souls out there in graduation land. Beats the stuffing out of the staidness of my uni graduation.

To whit, Bachelor of Arts in Communications (UC) and Certificate in Migrant English Tutoring (CIT). Oh, and a degree from the School Of Medium To Medium/Hard Glancing Blows
To The Side Of The Head.

I’ve got a degree in Sports science an adv dip in Massage therapy and use neither of them. Flights of fancy when younger thought I would make them into a career. Working stupid hours 7 days a week with no holiday pay is not all its cracked up to be. So I did what every self respecting Canberran does and joined the public service.

I finish year 12 on friday 🙂 🙂 🙂

Life is tough hey Berraboy 😉

Whenever I feel that way Thumper I always try to remember those less fortunate. And Christ knows there are heaps of them. There’s also something about I could say about the love of a good woman but she might read this one day and I don’t want to give her the satisfaction of me having said that!

How about a ‘currently studying’ option?

Sean78, you rule and I want to be on your campaign team.

I am sure you could do with the services of someone who is one graduation ceremony away from his xxth degree but still gets all his real knowledge from RA.

I completed Year 12 in 2001 at Eddies. I have a Science degree from UC (Majors Human Biology and Human Nutrition). I need to get 32% in my Admin Law exam and I’ll have my law degree from UC.

I’m also working on a Graduate Diploma in Economics at UC. After I complete that I’ll probably work for a masters.

…Indecisive much?

Left school to join the Navy at 17 with grades that precluded me from any University degree. Laughed in the faces of the Recruitment Officers when they offered me a place at ADFA based on my results from the mandatory aptitude tests. Left the Navy after a short but fun career and joined the APS as a CA1 (that’s lower than an APS 1 in the new money).

Flick forward several years and I now have an Arts Degree (ANU) and a Masters in Eng.Sci (UNSW). I’ve also been offered the chance to study for a PhD but in reality will most likely re-train and apply to study for either a Dip.Ed or Bachelor in Primary Ed. How I’ll fit that in while working as a consultant to Defence I don’t know.

School of hard knocks? If losing two brothers in 6 months, having an alcholic mother and abusive childhood as well as no family in Australia to provide emotional support gets me anything other than the breakdown I had earlier this year, FFS please let me know.

Sean78 said :

I gained my education via the ‘University of Hard Knocks’ while most have had to read about working class struggle and basic economics in text books.

At the age of Ten I met one of my grandfathers, an Alcoholic and homeless vagabond of Parramatta Park. It was one of the most chilling experiences of my life.

I would gain my first job at the age of twelve as a paper boy for the Daily Mirror, if only I knew what I was doing at such young and tender age-delivering propaganda for private enterprise. The media is the opiate of the people.

At the age of thirteen I was diagnosed with a benign ‘something’ astrocetoma (a brain Tumour) fortunately our nation then had a world class health system and I learnt the importance of universal health care.

I never thought much of school or the repetitious garbage that was peddled to indoctrinate the young and vulnerable, in my opinion two thirds of what is in the curriculum is rubbish and the truth shall set you free.

After High School I began my working life as an Apprentice Plumber, sifting through the remnants and shoveling the shit of other people. I very quickly learnt when others were full of it and had no qualms in letting them know when theres stank!

However life is not perfect.

Having been unable to finish my trade I found myself enlisted in the Australian Army, I had intended to finish my trade unfortunately I found myself in the Infantry, although I learnt a thing or two, Army life wasn’t for me.

The day I discharged I found employment on the Waterfront, that was 1997, in 1998 I transferred to the Port of Newcastle and in April became embroiled in one of the most covert and bitter industrial disputes this nation would ever anticipate aided by a despotic Government that would have the nation believe that they had a mandate for reform.

Now anyone can assert that something is unproductive if they never declare their method of calculation and this is what the Government did, the Government made comparison between Singapore, the center of world trade and the most advanced Port in the world and Sydney, a Port that still operates portainer cranes manufactured in 1967 and that are obsolete, nor did they inform the public of the machinery and equipment that is driven into the ground rather then overhaul with maintenance programs or fact that the International Shipping Industry recognises that two twenty foot containers loaded or discharged simultaneously as two moves-as is a forty foot container.

Old man Howard made it up as he went along aided by ‘Conservative Organ grinders’.

But enough of that. I was fortunate enough to have met Kim ‘Bomber’ Beazley on the picket line and it was because of a simple question that he asked which would lead to my involvement in politics. I would later become endorsed as a Federal Labor candidate.

Having relocated back to Queensland after the closure of Newcastles BHP I watched my grandfather fall terminally ill, I also witnessed the cold heartedness of private health care, in that at first they refused him treatment.

(I guess profits are more important).

Having crashed and burned I later moved interstate and now work at Port Botany for a ‘good Corporate citizen’ as a Stevedore and contrary to what people say I can certainly attest that a callus is a blister on the hand and not some kind of exotic sea-food served as an entre.

Working on the waterfront we are able to gauge the strength of the economy-we know what comes in and what goes out, we know when consumers are spending and when Governments are peddling rubbish.

So where to from here?

At later stage I will definitely run again for pre-selection so keep your eyes peeled!

Suddenly I feel so….. succinct!

…and in April became embroiled in one of the most covert and bitter industrial disputes this nation would ever anticipate…

If that was covert I assume that you aren’t a conspiracy theorist? That industrial dispute could not have had more propaganda form either side if they had tried.

…drink a cup of sulphuric acid…

You had sulphuric acid? Looxury…

Pommy bastard3:26 pm 19 Nov 08

Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

Bahaha – beat me to it…

Sean – ummm…. OK….

Why is it that I always feel that people that say they’re from the ‘University of hard knocks’ feel the world owes them something…?

Elkie is that you?

I gained my education via the ‘University of Hard Knocks’ while most have had to read about working class struggle and basic economics in text books.

At the age of Ten I met one of my grandfathers, an Alcoholic and homeless vagabond of Parramatta Park. It was one of the most chilling experiences of my life.

I would gain my first job at the age of twelve as a paper boy for the Daily Mirror, if only I knew what I was doing at such young and tender age-delivering propaganda for private enterprise. The media is the opiate of the people.

At the age of thirteen I was diagnosed with a benign ‘something’ astrocetoma (a brain Tumour) fortunately our nation then had a world class health system and I learnt the importance of universal health care.

I never thought much of school or the repetitious garbage that was peddled to indoctrinate the young and vulnerable, in my opinion two thirds of what is in the curriculum is rubbish and the truth shall set you free.

After High School I began my working life as an Apprentice Plumber, sifting through the remnants and shoveling the shit of other people. I very quickly learnt when others were full of it and had no qualms in letting them know when theres stank!

However life is not perfect.

Having been unable to finish my trade I found myself enlisted in the Australian Army, I had intended to finish my trade unfortunately I found myself in the Infantry, although I learnt a thing or two, Army life wasn’t for me.

The day I discharged I found employment on the Waterfront, that was 1997, in 1998 I transferred to the Port of Newcastle and in April became embroiled in one of the most covert and bitter industrial disputes this nation would ever anticipate aided by a despotic Government that would have the nation believe that they had a mandate for reform.

Now anyone can assert that something is unproductive if they never declare their method of calculation and this is what the Government did, the Government made comparison between Singapore, the center of world trade and the most advanced Port in the world and Sydney, a Port that still operates portainer cranes manufactured in 1967 and that are obsolete, nor did they inform the public of the machinery and equipment that is driven into the ground rather then overhaul with maintenance programs or fact that the International Shipping Industry recognises that two twenty foot containers loaded or discharged simultaneously as two moves-as is a forty foot container.

Old man Howard made it up as he went along aided by ‘Conservative Organ grinders’.

But enough of that. I was fortunate enough to have met Kim ‘Bomber’ Beazley on the picket line and it was because of a simple question that he asked which would lead to my involvement in politics. I would later become endorsed as a Federal Labor candidate.

Having relocated back to Queensland after the closure of Newcastles BHP I watched my grandfather fall terminally ill, I also witnessed the cold heartedness of private health care, in that at first they refused him treatment.

(I guess profits are more important).

Having crashed and burned I later moved interstate and now work at Port Botany for a ‘good Corporate citizen’ as a Stevedore and contrary to what people say I can certainly attest that a callus is a blister on the hand and not some kind of exotic sea-food served as an entre.

Working on the waterfront we are able to gauge the strength of the economy-we know what comes in and what goes out, we know when consumers are spending and when Governments are peddling rubbish.

So where to from here?

At later stage I will definitely run again for pre-selection so keep your eyes peeled!

Devil_n_Disquiz2:47 pm 19 Nov 08

#10

I’ll pay that one 🙂

Yer – I was guessing as much.

I may be on a largish network 😉

gargamel said :

Now why is it that I can’t vote in this dang thing? (I cleared my cache etc etc)

Voting is IP-matched, not computer specific.
Posting from work? 😛

> I take it from the above statistic that most RiotAct members are younger people. Back in the day when I got my first (UK) degree, only 6% of the population got to that level, nowadays it’s something like 40% is it not?

It’d be a Canberra thing…we’re much more prone to continuing with education beyond our childhood years.

MMMMM Caaaaake

Now why is it that I can’t vote in this dang thing? (I cleared my cache etc etc)

If your diploma is from a NZ Uni you shoulda ticked ‘Year 12 certificate’ 😉

Devil_n_Disquiz1:49 pm 19 Nov 08

My diploma came from a Uni (NZ),not a CIT/TAFE, so I voted Diploma anyway 🙂

Not that it counts for diddly.

Bachelor of Cake Decoration

That is a “Bachelor of Human Nutrition”…

No option in the poll relating to industry-specific certifications.

Very true. Would be interesting to see the overlap with who has a trade certificate in something, and who has a trade and a Uni education.

Worth noting that Canberra punches well above it’s weight, education-wise.

I think that the high rate of Bachelor of [whatever] has also been assisted by the fact that universities are teaching more vocational subjects that were previously covered by TAFEs (or the old CCAE). You could probably get a Bachelor of Cake Decoration at UC at the moment.

No option in the poll relating to industry-specific certifications.

Pommy bastard1:19 pm 19 Nov 08

I take it from the above statistic that most RiotAct members are younger people. Back in the day when I got my first (UK) degree, only 6% of the population got to that level, nowadays it’s something like 40% is it not?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy1:10 pm 19 Nov 08

Be interesting to see how many Bachelor of Arts versus Bachelor of Something Else.

tylersmayhem1:05 pm 19 Nov 08

Bachelor’s Degree (50%, 53 Votes)
I never would have thought. Seriously!

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