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So who are all these interested Summernats bidders?

By johnboy - 11 December 2008 49

The Canberra Times’ Megan Doherty has been having a dig and asking motorsport venues if they’ve been approaching Canberra’s Chic Henry for the chance to host his Summernats hoonfest.

Oddly enough she wasn’t able to find any despite Chic’s annual claims that they’re lining up for the chance to take it off our hands.

The Western Sydney International Dragway admitted they were interested after Chic approached them recently.

But they’d want to see an end to the booze and the boobs before they’d take it. Even worse: ‘It also wanted to avoid attracting ”the hoon mentality”.’

There goes that negotiating position.

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So who are all these interested Summernats bidders?
Doctor Evil 1:40 pm 11 Dec 08

Duke said :

@Henry – I can’t say i’ve noticed any serious contempt for Canberra attitude from Summernats fans, which is not to say there isn’t any.

As for finding a more qualified promoter, I don’t think you’re going to find a better promoter than Chic Henry. Not only is he a car nut (involved in hot rod shows long before Summernats) but he’s been running the event for 20+ years.

It’s not the same as promoting a music concert. It’s a unique event. The promoter has to know about car scrutineering and dealing with hundreds of sponsors.

The pack of dogs thing is a fair point and one that is going to be difficult to control. Locking them up in EPIC at night has proved the best and only solution.

But as somebody who has camped for several years on Mount Panorama during the Bathurst 1000 can I just say that Summernats has nothing, NOTHING on Bathurst when it comes to pack-of-dogs behaviour. Think of Bathurst as Summernats X 10. There are places on the mountain the cops are too scared to go to – yet that town embraces the event.

The likely reason other cities are not signing up for Summernats is because they simply can’t handle that volume of people and cars. We get 100 thousand to Canberra – imagine how many they would get if it were held in Sydney. Maybe double or triple that. There would be mayhem.

The only viable alternative to Canberra is a well-placed country town prepared to donate some serious acreage to the event.

Actually Duke, I think the attendance numbers would go down rather than up if it went to Sydney. WSID have said they wouldn’t have the alchohol, wet t-shirt comps etc which would put off a large proportion of the wanker population.

Sure, a few of the knuckledraggers would turn up the first year expecting the event to still be like that, but would soon disappear once they realised it was just about cars.

It would actually be a big car show again, and that’s what lots of people (including me) would like to go to, even if it meant a drive to Sydney.

Jim Jones 1:17 pm 11 Dec 08

H1NG0 said :

Jim Jones said :

BarryF said :

Ah yes Megan Doherty – Stanhope lover. Didn’t read in her article how the Chief Minister accidentally left behind confidential files about Summernats.

Nice distraction Megan, how about some unbiased Journalism.

I don’t like Summernats either, but at least Chic Henry is trying to attrack money to Canberra unlike the Stanhopless Govt – remember they just about closed Tourism ACT.

Megan go do a sensible story without your political bias.

If you’ve got evidence I’m sure everyone would like to see it.

Evidence as in Stanhopeless’ “apology” on TV the other night you mean?

I didn’t see that. What’s the story?

Duke 1:16 pm 11 Dec 08

@Henry – I can’t say i’ve noticed any serious contempt for Canberra attitude from Summernats fans, which is not to say there isn’t any.

As for finding a more qualified promoter, I don’t think you’re going to find a better promoter than Chic Henry. Not only is he a car nut (involved in hot rod shows long before Summernats) but he’s been running the event for 20+ years.

It’s not the same as promoting a music concert. It’s a unique event. The promoter has to know about car scrutineering and dealing with hundreds of sponsors.

The pack of dogs thing is a fair point and one that is going to be difficult to control. Locking them up in EPIC at night has proved the best and only solution.

But as somebody who has camped for several years on Mount Panorama during the Bathurst 1000 can I just say that Summernats has nothing, NOTHING on Bathurst when it comes to pack-of-dogs behaviour. Think of Bathurst as Summernats X 10. There are places on the mountain the cops are too scared to go to – yet that town embraces the event.

The likely reason other cities are not signing up for Summernats is because they simply can’t handle that volume of people and cars. We get 100 thousand to Canberra – imagine how many they would get if it were held in Sydney. Maybe double or triple that. There would be mayhem.

The only viable alternative to Canberra is a well-placed country town prepared to donate some serious acreage to the event.

@ant – don’t be a victim of fear and paranoia, go visit Summernats this year.

ant 12:57 pm 11 Dec 08

Duke said :

So before criticising, how about actually visiting the event, perhaps on a Sunday when it’s quieter

-Duke

And bring your wife and daughters! You’ll be an instant convert.

H1NG0 12:51 pm 11 Dec 08

Jim Jones said :

BarryF said :

Ah yes Megan Doherty – Stanhope lover. Didn’t read in her article how the Chief Minister accidentally left behind confidential files about Summernats.

Nice distraction Megan, how about some unbiased Journalism.

I don’t like Summernats either, but at least Chic Henry is trying to attrack money to Canberra unlike the Stanhopless Govt – remember they just about closed Tourism ACT.

Megan go do a sensible story without your political bias.

If you’ve got evidence I’m sure everyone would like to see it.

Evidence as in Stanhopeless’ “apology” on TV the other night you mean?

AngryHenry 12:47 pm 11 Dec 08

Duke said :

That CT article of today put a big smile on my face 🙂 Chic is unlikely to give up the booze and breasts and general rev-head culture, as are us Summernats patrons, which is bad news for other potential venues but great news for Canberra.

Just because some critics don’t like a particular event is not a reason for that event to be cancelled. Canberra is home to excellent galleries, the War Memorial, the museum, Floriade, the Folk Festival, so why seek to deny car enthusiasts the opportunity to visit Australia’s biggest and best car show?

Anti-social behaviour is a problem at Summernats but it is also a problem in Civic, Manuka and Kingston in the 51 weeks a year Summernats isn’t in town.

I think Summernats should stay for many of the reasons people say it should go – because it is anti-PC, because it rattles the squares and prudes and elitists. It also brings tens of thousands of people to Canberra who stay in our hotels, eat at our restaurants, ride in our taxis and support local small business.

So before criticising, how about actually visiting the event, perhaps on a Sunday when it’s quieter and all the local car clubs have been invited to put their cars on display -for it’s only a car show and it’s only a few days a year. The sky isn’t going to fall on your heads tomorrow and you that bubble-wrap you dress in must be getting awful hot this time of year.

Peace and Love everybody

-Duke

Some fair points Duke, some I agree with, some I don’t. After going to Summernats it is, as THEY say, ‘more than a car show’. I think that’s the reason why it would seem none of the other motorsport oriented venues want to put in a bid for it.

It’s definitely part of the Canberra landscape and I agree that anti-social behaviour in Civic and Manuka occurs all year round, but visiting Summernats on a Sunday afternoon for those who want to avoid the violent and loutish behaviour that comes with the event on the other three or so days is not a solution.

I have a theory that some of the interstate visitors actually harbour contempt for Canberra and Canberran’s and that contributes to their behaviour during those few days. I don’t know if I can prove it but listening to the way some people react when you say you’re from Canberra it wouldn’t suprise me.

The most obvious solution, in my opinion, is for Chic Henry to hand the event over to a more capable event management company, reassess the security, the service of alcohol, the camping conditions, the event programme and the promotion of Summernats and try and give the people something that is actually more about cars, the pride of their owners and the countless hours of work that goes into them. But most of all make it less about behaving like a pack of dogs.

Jim Jones 12:31 pm 11 Dec 08

BarryF said :

Ah yes Megan Doherty – Stanhope lover. Didn’t read in her article how the Chief Minister accidentally left behind confidential files about Summernats.

Nice distraction Megan, how about some unbiased Journalism.

I don’t like Summernats either, but at least Chic Henry is trying to attrack money to Canberra unlike the Stanhopless Govt – remember they just about closed Tourism ACT.

Megan go do a sensible story without your political bias.

If you’ve got evidence I’m sure everyone would like to see it.

BarryF 12:27 pm 11 Dec 08

Ah yes Megan Doherty – Stanhope lover. Didn’t read in her article how the Chief Minister accidentally left behind confidential files about Summernats.

Nice distraction Megan, how about some unbiased Journalism.

I don’t like Summernats either, but at least Chic Henry is trying to attrack money to Canberra unlike the Stanhopless Govt – remember they just about closed Tourism ACT.

Megan go do a sensible story without your political bias.

Duke 11:27 am 11 Dec 08

That CT article of today put a big smile on my face 🙂 Chic is unlikely to give up the booze and breasts and general rev-head culture, as are us Summernats patrons, which is bad news for other potential venues but great news for Canberra.

Just because some critics don’t like a particular event is not a reason for that event to be cancelled. Canberra is home to excellent galleries, the War Memorial, the museum, Floriade, the Folk Festival, so why seek to deny car enthusiasts the opportunity to visit Australia’s biggest and best car show?

Anti-social behaviour is a problem at Summernats but it is also a problem in Civic, Manuka and Kingston in the 51 weeks a year Summernats isn’t in town.

I think Summernats should stay for many of the reasons people say it should go – because it is anti-PC, because it rattles the squares and prudes and elitists. It also brings tens of thousands of people to Canberra who stay in our hotels, eat at our restaurants, ride in our taxis and support local small business.

So before criticising, how about actually visiting the event, perhaps on a Sunday when it’s quieter and all the local car clubs have been invited to put their cars on display -for it’s only a car show and it’s only a few days a year. The sky isn’t going to fall on your heads tomorrow and you that bubble-wrap you dress in must be getting awful hot this time of year.

Peace and Love everybody

-Duke

DoZeR 11:09 am 11 Dec 08

dexi said :

If he moved it, he runs the risk of the same problems Canberra had when it started up. Trying to remove the booze’n’tits will only lead to street riots and bad behavior from the locals outside the event.

I think he also would run a huge financial rick to the profitability of the event.

We only tolerate the event because we have spent years limiting the worst of the behavior to epic park. The present format comes from a lot of trail and error. Western Sydney would have a whole different dynamic.

agreed, the only place it seems to get rowdy outside epic is in braddon when they cruze around at night after the events.

dexi 9:26 am 11 Dec 08

If he moved it, he runs the risk of the same problems Canberra had when it started up. Trying to remove the booze’n’tits will only lead to street riots and bad behavior from the locals outside the event.

I think he also would run a huge financial rick to the profitability of the event.

We only tolerate the event because we have spent years limiting the worst of the behavior to epic park. The present format comes from a lot of trail and error. Western Sydney would have a whole different dynamic.

Gungahlin Al 9:18 am 11 Dec 08

Amazing where a little bit of good old fashioned investigative journalism can take you.
Kudos to CT.

Mr Evil 9:10 am 11 Dec 08

Lies, lies, lies – there must be thousands of places that would love to have Summernats???

Please don’t tell me we can’t get rid of the bloody thing!

ant 9:10 am 11 Dec 08

I’ve noticed Megan Doherty doing a bit of useful journalism when I’ve eyed a borrowed copy of the CT. Good on her. So much for Chic’s claims of all these venues lining up to beg him to re-locate… an egg-on-face situation. But she did find a venue that had been approached by chic! Looks like he’s the one doing the lining up and begging.

Looks like Canberra is the odd one out, still accepting the booze’n’tits nature of summerants when even a Syndey dragway won’t tolerate it.

harvyk1 9:09 am 11 Dec 08

I most certainly would believe that there are quite a few places that would love to have summernats. But they would want it as a car festival, not as a booze and skin fest.

But I doubt Chic wants to get rid of the booze and skin, because that’s how he makes his money.

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