So with fires all over Canberra today…

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Who decided we’d buck the national trend in keeping a middling fire danger rating?

And what sanction will they face?

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Thumper Thumper 8:31 am 07 Jan 13

Thumper said :

Sorry for being late with a reply but I’ve spent the day on the fireground at Mt Gininni. Just back home.

I’m not into interagency rivalry as it’s completely counter productive and against everything I do.

Quips like ‘making sandwiches’ from knuckles would suggest that he is either a newbie or hasn’t done a hell of lot in his time in RFS. Fair enough, I have no problem with it, but comments like that are uncalled for. I have a heap of mates in RFS from all over Australia. Served on firegrounds all over Australia with them. I respect them and am humbled to call them my mates, or comrades in arms. Good blokes.

As I said before, someone in a position of power made the decision to stand the SES up on the previous days. It’s not some glory power trip, someone in a position of responsibility made this decision.

And as SES we comply.

Nothing more to say except to wonder if knuckles has been on the fireground down south yet?

And if he he has, then good work and keep it up. Maybe I’ll bump into you tomorrow, or the next day.

Cheers.

Actually, in hindsight that comment was uncalled for.

Take care if you’re out on the fireground.

Cheers

MissGwen MissGwen 12:29 am 07 Jan 13

scorpio63 said :

and….while that girl on her P’s throws live embers on to roads/dry grasses… Where was she when this happened? Down the Coast and not a care in the world? Or perhaps moved from interstate and missed the whole experience?

I am not condoning the throwing of lit butts or other stupid acts however, based on your observation that she was on her Ps and a girl (I’m assuming you mean a young woman) she was possibly only 7, 8 or 9 years old at the time of the 2003 firestorm and may not really remember it.

Unfortunately many people in the community don’t pass on knowledge (in any meaningful way) that needs to be passed on these days.

Sandman Sandman 9:57 pm 06 Jan 13

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Antagonist said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

… They do this without predigest but with pride.

Way to come across really edumacated, dude 🙂

oops “prejudice” Thanks “Antagonist” Its hard to keep a posting going while your working at the same time providing support to the firies in the back ground……….

Hang on. You’re trying to justify the importance of the SES role by surfing an opinion website WHILE AT WORK FOR THE SES?

Thumper Thumper 8:40 pm 06 Jan 13

Sorry for being late with a reply but I’ve spent the day on the fireground at Mt Gininni. Just back home.

I’m not into interagency rivalry as it’s completely counter productive and against everything I do.

Quips like ‘making sandwiches’ from knuckles would suggest that he is either a newbie or hasn’t done a hell of lot in his time in RFS. Fair enough, I have no problem with it, but comments like that are uncalled for. I have a heap of mates in RFS from all over Australia. Served on firegrounds all over Australia with them. I respect them and am humbled to call them my mates, or comrades in arms. Good blokes.

As I said before, someone in a position of power made the decision to stand the SES up on the previous days. It’s not some glory power trip, someone in a position of responsibility made this decision.

And as SES we comply.

Nothing more to say except to wonder if knuckles has been on the fireground down south yet?

And if he he has, then good work and keep it up. Maybe I’ll bump into you tomorrow, or the next day.

Cheers.

scorpio63 scorpio63 6:31 pm 06 Jan 13

and….while that girl on her P’s throws live embers on to roads/dry grasses, it will be young people her age risking their lives to protect in all probability her property/home or parents home attempting to extinguish it (hopefully not in the winds) as all people with common sense know from the 2003 Canberra firestorm. Where was she when this happened? Down the Coast and not a care in the world? Or perhaps moved from interstate and missed the whole experience?

scorpio63 scorpio63 6:22 pm 06 Jan 13

Many trees are struck by Lightning causing spot fires initially undetected, winds come up a day or two later and off it goes hence the Helicopters doing checks the following day(s).

I have attended a few fires (one caused by a guy welding in a paddock on a 90k windy day) and others as a result of lightning strikes a day previously.

It upsets me when I see people tossing out live cigarettes on the roads (one on the Monaro Highway the other day) and took off past Royalla at 120ks going in the opposite direction. One sees the description of the vehicle but getting a rego plate at that speed a little difficult.

Said my prayers of a night for NSW/ACT to be protected – lives, creatures and properties along with all other states of Australia through Jan/Feb/March

Rawhide Kid Part3 Rawhide Kid Part3 5:32 pm 06 Jan 13

Antagonist said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

… They do this without predigest but with pride.

Way to come across really edumacated, dude 🙂

oops “prejudice” Thanks “Antagonist” Its hard to keep a posting going while your working at the same time providing support to the firies in the back ground……….

Antagonist Antagonist 1:59 pm 06 Jan 13

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

… They do this without predigest but with pride.

Way to come across really edumacated, dude 🙂

knuckles knuckles 1:40 pm 06 Jan 13
buzz819 buzz819 1:17 pm 06 Jan 13

So we should fine the people who burnt down their houses?

Rawhide Kid Part3 Rawhide Kid Part3 11:52 am 06 Jan 13

knuckles said :

Thumper said :

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Whoops… There….

sigh…

1) Firies are required to be self sufficient in equipment and supplies for 24 hours before they attend the fire ground,
2) They include crews for quick fill appliances as part of their crewing levels
3)Reckies, road blocks, forward logistics, search teams and emergency repairs are not carried out as part of a 1st response emergency and crews can be called in for these if/when required.

SES are not part of an emergency response for fires, Fire & Rescue and RFS are. So other than making themselves feel important I still don’t see why SES would stand up on high fire danger days.

knuckles said :

Thumper said :

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Whoops… There….

sigh…

1) Firies are required to be self sufficient in equipment and supplies for 24 hours before they attend the fire ground,
2) They include crews for quick fill appliances as part of their crewing levels
3)Reckies, road blocks, forward logistics, search teams and emergency repairs are not carried out as part of a 1st response emergency and crews can be called in for these if/when required.

SES are not part of an emergency response for fires, Fire & Rescue and RFS are. So other than making themselves feel important I still don’t see why SES would stand up on high fire danger days.

You don’t get it….. Do you. No SES, No follow up support. SES in the ACT have memorandum of understanding to provide support to all emergency service organizations with the ACT. They do this without predigest but with pride.

Rawhide Kid Part3 Rawhide Kid Part3 11:42 am 06 Jan 13

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Also provide staging area management, Remote area comms, Transport….. The list is long depending on the type and size or the incident.

Thumper Thumper 11:28 am 06 Jan 13

knuckles said :

Thumper said :

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Whoops… There….

sigh…

1) Firies are required to be self sufficient in equipment and supplies for 24 hours before they attend the fire ground,
2) They include crews for quick fill appliances as part of their crewing levels
3)Reckies, road blocks, forward logistics, search teams and emergency repairs are not carried out as part of a 1st response emergency and crews can be called in for these if/when required.

SES are not part of an emergency response for fires, Fire & Rescue and RFS are. So other than making themselves feel important I still don’t see why SES would stand up on high fire danger days.

Comms, staging areas….

SES is not stood up because someone in SES says so. It’s because someone higher deems it necessary.

rescuedg rescuedg 11:23 am 06 Jan 13

SES stood up yesterday for storm damage. I think the ESA website said they had 17 callouts.

knuckles knuckles 11:04 am 06 Jan 13

Thumper said :

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Whoops… There….

sigh…

1) Firies are required to be self sufficient in equipment and supplies for 24 hours before they attend the fire ground,
2) They include crews for quick fill appliances as part of their crewing levels
3)Reckies, road blocks, forward logistics, search teams and emergency repairs are not carried out as part of a 1st response emergency and crews can be called in for these if/when required.

SES are not part of an emergency response for fires, Fire & Rescue and RFS are. So other than making themselves feel important I still don’t see why SES would stand up on high fire danger days.

Thumper Thumper 10:44 am 06 Jan 13

Thumper said :

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

Whoops… There….

sigh…

EvanJames EvanJames 10:32 am 06 Jan 13

This long run of hot weather will be drying out the fuel faster. Next week you’ll see a higher fire danger, we’re in for more hot temps, including some almost-40s going into the weekend. If we get very low humidity, and wind, then you’ll see the danger develop into something nasty.

Thumper Thumper 10:30 am 06 Jan 13

knuckles said :

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

Or run supplies to the fireground, fill and man quick fills, do reckies, road blocks, provide forward logistics, perform evacuations if necessary, provide search teams for victims, provide emergency repairs for damaged houses.

Couldn’t be arsed adding any more but if it all turned to s*** like in 2003 they’re be plenty for the SES to do

miz miz 10:09 am 06 Jan 13

Sun morning updates from ESA on two fires in Namadgi – Sentry Box Mountain and Mt Ginini here: http://esa.act.gov.au
According to the ESA, both fires have been assessed as low-moderate with no threat to property at this time. Ring 000 if an emergency arises.

I have heard several helicopters fly over my house this morning (Chisholm). I am glad to see this, as people are going to be understandably nervous given the closeness of the 2003 anniversary and the advice provided by certain authorities at that time (or the lack thereof).

Go firies, you are appreciated more than you know.

knuckles knuckles 9:33 am 06 Jan 13

Why would the SES stand up for high fire danger days.

Surely the firies can call them in when they need someone to make their sandwiches.

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