Chisholm Double Murder

johnboy 26 March 2009 250

[First filed: March 24, 2009 @ 17:38]

Word is coming in that there’s been a major incident in Chisholm, possibly a shooting.

(One source reckon’s it’s a square up for the death of James Peisley over the weekend. CORRECTION: Now hearing that the link is limited to Peisley buying speed from one of the deceased)

More on this as and when it comes to hand.

UPDATE: ABC radio news on 666 is reporting two men have been shot dead on Couchman Crescent in Chisholm.

ANOTHER UPDATE: The Herald Sun is claiming it’s a bikie related killing. A person is assisting with inquiries and a firearm has been recovered.

FURTHER UPDATE: The Canberra Times informs that is believed the man being questioned is a brother of one of the victims.

The AFP website remains irresolutely useless. But Crimestoppers has two items on this:

    1. Police incident, Chisholm:

    ACT Policing is at the scene of an incident in Couchman Crescent where a man has been shot.

    About 3.10pm today (March 24) police and ACT Ambulance Service received a call for assistance amid reports that a man had suffered a gunshot wound. The area around Couchman Crescent was cordoned off as police responded to the incident.

    ACT Ambulance declared the man deceased at the scene. Territory Investigations Group officers are investigating the circumstances surrounding the man’s death.

    The area remains blocked off to members of the public as police continue their inquiries in relation to the matter. A number of people are currently assisting police with their investigations.

    2. Second deceased person located, Chisholm:

    Police responding to a shooting incident in Couchman Crescent, Chisholm this afternoon have located a second deceased person in a rear yard of a house.

    About 3.10pm today (March 24) police and ACT Ambulance Service received a call for assistance amid reports that a man had suffered a gunshot wound. The area around Couchman Crescent was cordoned off as police responded to the incident. ACT Ambulance declared the man deceased at the scene.

    A search of the immediate area resulted in a second deceased person being located. A weapon has been recovered and will undergo forensic investigation.

    A man has been apprehended by police and is currently being interviewed at Tuggeranong Police Station.

    Territory Investigations Group officers are investigating the circumstances surrounding the deaths. The area remains blocked off to members of the public as police continue their inquiries in relation to the matter.

MORE UPDATES: The Brisbane Times is claiming one of the victims was affiliated with the Rebels OMCG. The Australian is asserting a drug link.

FURTHER UPDATE: Bikernews.net is choosing to link to a News Limited story claiming it was related to a love triangle, and not motorcycle gangs.

    But a Rebels Motorcycle Club life member said club ties had nothing to do with the shooting, which occurred at the hands of a jilted ex-lover.

    The man, who did not wish to be named, said one of the victims was a close friend and a fellow Rebels member for around 30 years.

    “He’s been in a lot of trouble over his life, had a pretty tough time in his life at times,” the man said.

    “I sort of expected (him) to be somebody on the other side of things, more likely to be shooting at somebody than getting shot at.

    “It was over a girl from what I believe. It’s a love triangle. He’s gone out with this girl, the ex-boyfriend has come back.”

    The man said he did not know the identity of the other man involved in the shooting or if he was a member of the Rebels or any other motorcycle club.

    “All I know was that it wasn’t club related, it was just ex-boyfriend-shoots-new-boyfriend-love-triangle,” he said.

AFP MEDIA UNIT BREAKS SILENCE:

    The investigation into the fatal shooting of two men, believed to be aged 48 and 57, in Chisholm yesterday afternoon is continuing.

    At this stage, investigations by ACT Policing indicate the shooting was not gang related.

    A 20-year-old man has been conveyed to the Regional Watch House where he is expected to be charged with two counts of murder later this morning.

    2. Man charged, Chisholm shootings

    A 20-year-old man from Chisholm will appear before an ACT Magistrate later this morning charged with two counts of murder.

    This follows the fatal shooting of two men in the vicinity of a residence in Couchman Crescent, Chisholm yesterday afternoon.

    At this stage, investigations by ACT Policing indicate the shootings were not gang related.

SUSPECT NAMED: News report that the suspect has been named as Russell Field, 20, of Chisholm. Bail was formally refused. Mr. Field is to re-appear on 15 April. His lawyer says he will be defending the charges.


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vg vg 10:49 pm 24 Mar 09

Its a fairly traumatic experience for anyone. Bringing children and a school into this equation is a hysterical extrapolation.

Based on news reports a body was discovered about 3. When it was shot is the bailiwick of the investigators. Kids were no more or less a chance of getting shot in that area today than any other day. It wasn’t a drive by shooting with a hail of rounds sprayed from an AK.

“Guns are dangerous things, mistakes with them can be fatal.”

No shit Sherlock

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:58 pm 24 Mar 09

It appeared, Watson, that you thought that mistakes couldn’t happen. I sincerely hope you understand that they can, considering you were or are paid to carry them.

How long would it have taken for the police to respond to reports of gunshots? The body was found on the front lawn too, which would have heightened the risk of bystanders.

The fact is Vg, there is a difference between gunning someone down in an alley after dark and doing it in a suburban street near a school during the day. Neither are acceptable, but the latter causes a great deal more concern.

I find it difficult to believe someone who has served as a police officer would have trouble understanding that.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 11:06 pm 24 Mar 09

Deadmandrinking said :

^Can’t you do this at a pub Berraboy?

I can but I’d probably get shot the way things are going. I’m just carrying on conversation started elswhere, sorry if that offends anybody. But not every post in every thread is always OT, even by you DMD:)

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:10 pm 24 Mar 09

I know Berraboy, but who-knows-who is really really off-topic in this case.

vg vg 11:12 pm 24 Mar 09

Look at what actually happened.

The body was found on the front lawn, was it shot there?

Define ‘near a school’? Its quite relative, particularly at Chisholm Primary School is 1.31km from Couchman Crescent. Short of aiming a Barrett .50cal snipers rifle I think you will find that all my assertions re the kids safety as per the above are correct.

If there was cause for alarm regarding school kiddies suffice to say I would be light years ahead of you, but clearly I prefer the pragmatic rather than the hysterical

Spideydog Spideydog 11:12 pm 24 Mar 09

DMD. If this did occur at 3pm, the kiddies wouldn’t even be out of class yet.

You may need to bring your concerns up with the offender when/if they are brought before a court. I am sure they will be eager to hear your thoughts in regard to their poor location and timing of their crime and best that they commit murder at a more appropriate time/location.

I agree that that your point is a concern (any use of a firearm is a concern), but really irrelevant.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:25 pm 24 Mar 09

What evidence do you have that the body wasn’t shot on the front lawn, VG? It was found there, so at this point and time, it is more likely to assume it was shot there.

If the school is two streets away, you can assume people would be passing through there near the afternoon, more so than at night, for instance. This means there was more of a risk that innocent bystanders could become involved. The fact that such an act took place in an area where there was more of a risk of innocent bystanders, including the young, is what heightens the concern.

Spideydog Spideydog 11:34 pm 24 Mar 09

I still don’t see the real relevance here ….. What are we going to do ?? Outlaw murders in public places ?? Educate criminals into committing their acts in a less dangerous place ??

Yes it is concerning, but if we were able to do something about where it was committed, then surely we would be able to stop the act in the first place …. the point is irrelevant (I think)

I will also point out that assumption is the mother of all @$$%%^^&

Timberwolf65 Timberwolf65 11:35 pm 24 Mar 09

“War without end
No remorse No repent
We don’t care what it meant
Another day Another death
Another sorrow Another breath”

Spideydog Spideydog 11:44 pm 24 Mar 09

Niiiice Metallicanism ….. ??!

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:53 pm 24 Mar 09

You’ll find, Spideydog, that when the violent activities of the criminal world start to surface in highly public places at highly public times, the police often start to get up off their arse and do something about it.

For example, if a man was beaten to death with poles in an alley somewhere in King’s Cross at night, do you think there’d be the outcry and statements made from the PM that has resulted from the same thing happening in an airport during the day? Once it’s out in the open, the police and the pollies have no option but to discuss it and come up with solutions to these sorts of activities.

In this case, a man has been arrested (although it’s not certain whether he is responsible, or solely if he is). If the killer has been arrested, then it’s a job well done on the police’s part, but it still doesn’t stop this incident can adding fuel to the fire and encourage a pro-active stance in dealing with this sort of crime.

Personally, I’d like a pro-active stance in regards to preventative measures, dealing with the situations that drive people into this sort of crime in the first place, but that will never happen.

Spam Box Spam Box 12:08 am 25 Mar 09

2 Hours, I could find my key’s in less time

Spam Box Spam Box 12:16 am 25 Mar 09

i FINK YOU ALL PRICKS FOR NOT BEING NICE TO THIS GUYS WAS A GUY YA KNOW AND WERE’RE ALL GUYS EXCEPT FOR THE GIRLS BUT HE WAS STILL A COOL GUY WHO WUDDA DONE ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY EVEN REDCROSS WICH IS COOL COS HE HATED BLACK AND ASIANS BUT HE WASNT A RACIST IT WAS JUST COS IF YOU KNEW HIM YOU WOULD KNOW THAT 3 AND A HALF OF HIS KIDS WERE ASIAN AND THE OTHE 2 WERE BLACK, ALL FOUR OF EM

YOUR ALL PRICKS FOR SPEAKING LIKE THIS ABOUT SOME GUY I HARDLY KNEW WELL HE LIVED UPTHE STREET AND MY MUM SAID SHE HEARD IN CHURCH THAT HE WAS OK SO YOU CAN ALL GET STUFFED.

Did I cover it all?

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 12:20 am 25 Mar 09

LOL. 8/10

You lost marks for all upper case text whereas really good rants include random upper and lower case letters.

martyo martyo 12:24 am 25 Mar 09

it’s official – biker war in Canberra

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikie-killed-in-double-murder–fears-gang-war-has-hit-canberra-20090324-98wo.html

earlier concerns confirmed imho -” A witness, 11, chanced upon the horrific scene on her way home from school.”

Instant Mash Instant Mash 12:25 am 25 Mar 09

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

Spideydog Spideydog 12:26 am 25 Mar 09

Oh DMD ….. If you think that any serious crime is treated any differently than another by the police, you are deluding yourself. I can tell you for a fact that any murder, regardless of who it was perpetrated against, or whether it was in public or not, is giving exactly the same attention, resources and investigation.

If you don’t believe this to be the case, well so be it, I don’t give a damn if you want to live in the conspiracy theorist mind set.

Pro-active stance with murders ….. you mean post a police officer in every persons house ???

What is your magic solution ? Pro-active preventative measures that deals with the situations that drive people into that sort of crime….. Please state your program that would include pro-active and preventative measures.

Spam Box Spam Box 12:31 am 25 Mar 09

BerraBoy68 said :

LOL. 8/10

You lost marks for all upper case text whereas really good rants include random upper and lower case letters.

WeLL Y cAN gET FUc COs…. 😉

Spideydog Spideydog 12:33 am 25 Mar 09

martyo said :

it’s official – biker war in Canberra

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikie-killed-in-double-murder–fears-gang-war-has-hit-canberra-20090324-98wo.html

earlier concerns confirmed imho -” A witness, 11, chanced upon the horrific scene on her way home from school.”

And ten minutes later we have this from the same news site :http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/canberra-shootings-not-gang-related-20090325-994v.html

Just proves that nothing is “official’ and the media have no idea at all. They will speculate with a story that best fits with whipping up hysteria until the real story comes out……..

Spam Box Spam Box 12:33 am 25 Mar 09

🙂

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