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Speed camera causes accident?

By rtsnoz 21 September 2007 76

I will start by making it clear that I do not know anything about this incident. It is simply a suggestion.

Heading south on the Tuggeranong parkway tonight at about 5:20 traffic was slow, VERY slow. Turns out, police had closed the section of the parkway which heads under the cotter road, co-incidentally also where a (revenue raising & dangerous in my oppinion) speed camera is placed.

Is it known why the road was closed in this section? I presume it was due to some kind of car accident – caused by somebody hitting the breaks upon reaching the speed camera?

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qbngeek 9:58 am 28 Jul 11

shadow boxer said :

There was a good 4-5 car rear ender heading onto the Barton Highway from Gungahlin this morning. Some people just have no idea.

They had pushed the cars off but about 8 people were standing around watching cars mount the gutter to get around ther pile of broken plastic and lens caps while enjoying the site of traffic backing up all the way back to the golf club.

Seriously it would have taken 30 seconds for them to walk out there and kick the rubbish into the gutter.

Meh, drive over it. I love seeing guys in 4WDs, that they kit out with all the latest offroad gear but obviously never go offroad, with massive tyres drive around a bit of plastic or glass. The tyres are designed to handle a bit of glass or plastic it on most cars.

KaptnKaos 9:40 am 28 Jul 11

Speed/safety cameras are only the begining Canberra, wait until the tolls are implemented on these roads, then you’ll see some real accidents – cars not having etags being fined, cars with etags being fined, cars on roads without tolls being fined – a whole new beautiful world of kaos is coming Canberra.

shadow boxer 9:09 am 28 Jul 11

There was a good 4-5 car rear ender heading onto the Barton Highway from Gungahlin this morning. Some people just have no idea.

They had pushed the cars off but about 8 people were standing around watching cars mount the gutter to get around ther pile of broken plastic and lens caps while enjoying the site of traffic backing up all the way back to the golf club.

Seriously it would have taken 30 seconds for them to walk out there and kick the rubbish into the gutter.

BlackIce 8:59 pm 27 Jul 11

Captain RAAF said :

Its also probably the best road to watch people failing to keep left unless overtaking.

It is also the best road to watch people failing to understand that even while overtaking you have to stick to the speed limit.

dvaey 7:37 pm 27 Jul 11

Innovation said :

Speaking of which, I read the Captain’s post at #59 and, just for a second, I thought he might be advocating a slower speed limit at late afternoon/sunset.

Variable speed limits, set to the actual road and driving conditions? Unlikely in the ACT.

Innovation 6:17 pm 27 Jul 11

Tooks said :

This one time, I was driving down the parkway and a speed camera actually stepped out onto the road, nearly causing an accident. Ever since, I’ve always been extra cautious when driving past speed cameras, just in case they cause an accident.

+1 – when I saw this heading it reminded me of the saying “Guns don’t kill people……”

Speaking of which, I read the Captain’s post at #59 and, just for a second, I thought he might be advocating a slower speed limit at late afternoon/sunset.

Jethro 6:07 pm 27 Jul 11

Apparently I don’t refuse to call it an accident 🙂

Jethro 6:06 pm 27 Jul 11

I don’t go down that way often, so forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that a permanent speed camera with giant signs warning people of its presence. How on Earth can anyone see these type of cameras as revenue raisers? They are not covert. They are very clearly signed for a long way before hand and at the camera’s spot. They are clearly there to make sure that people drive through the spot at the speed limit. Anyone who claims otherwise is a moron.

Also, anyone who has a car crash (I refuse to call it an accident) “as a result” of the speed camera is a moron. In a crash like this you have moron number one in the front car sitting well above the speed limit until the very last minute when they slam on their brakes, clearly oblivious to moron number two behind them, also speeding, but this time with the added thrill of having his nose six inches up moron number one’s arsehole.

An accident like this is no-one’s fault but the two morons involved. To blame it on a camera that is clearly signposted is simply a case of these morons and their sympathisers to accept the consequences of their dangerous driving.

pringa8 5:41 pm 27 Jul 11

chewy14 said :

Timeeh yep,
i’ve seen many accidents at that exact spot.
Although not actually physically caused by the speed camera it definitely plays it’s part.
Usual scenario:
– Dribbler 1 and Dribbler 2 speeding down to the bottom of the hill on Parkway
– Dribbler 1 hits the anchors just before speed camera
– Dribbler 2 is tailgating and/or not paying attention to Dribbler 1
– Dribbler 2 rear ends Dribbler 1.
– Dribblers 3,4,5 etc do the same.

End Result – Lots of saliva all over the road

I’d like to see a study done on accident rates on this particular part of road for the last couple of years but I don’t think the government wants to be made to look silly if it’s actually increased.

It’s also quite easy to see by a fair portion of canberra drivers that they dont actually study the road in front of them, they’re fixated on the car in front of them. And it’s not just people doing over the posted limit that jam on the brakes approaching, you’ll see people going under the limit and still jamming their brakes on! In reality there’s very little reason you should need to brake at all on the parkway or the M5 for instance if you’re scanning the road ahead of you further than 1 car ahead (of course unless traffic has suddenly stopped).

Henry82 5:38 pm 27 Jul 11

If people didnt speed, or tailgate, then these accidents wouldn’t happen. imo anyone who causes an accident in that situation need to surrender their license.

pringa8 5:35 pm 27 Jul 11

shauno said :

“The whole revenue raising thing is a joke as well. They either put in speed cameras and raise it that way or slug you an extra levy in your rates. Personally I prefer speed cameras as I don’t pay that levy.”

I don’t mind paying revenue some how. But and this is the thing that pisses me and a lot of people off. Its the blatant bullshit that the government spins relating these speed cameras to safety. Its utter crap and any one with half a brain can see that positioning these cameras on straight double lane roads nowhere near proven black spots is revenue raising, why don’t they just come out and say it.

To add insult to injury, the revenue raised from speed cameras which is meant to be spent on safety programs is then spent on more speed cameras rather than spending the money on something like improving driver standards through compulsory government subsidised driver training programs.

The other issue is that governments have a conflict of interest, mainly because cameras generate revenue yet are meant to increase safety by preventing speeding. If cameras were doing their job, then revenue should be decreasing as less people should be speeding. If not, then the cameras obviously aren’t working.

timeeh 5:22 pm 27 Jul 11

thanks Chewy, glad it’s not just me 🙂 I assume the ones that don’t see it are also the ones causing the accidents and/or involved in them…. such as mr watson and sydney 🙂

Kiron2222 5:18 pm 27 Jul 11

haha, NSW just axed a bunch of speed camera’s over the fact they do nothing and just raise revenue.

Anyone have that big study from England that showed that Speed Camera’s actually increase the amount of traffic incident’s along roads they are posted? if memory serves me correctly for every speed Camera there is something like a 11% increase in incidents.

Classified 5:06 pm 27 Jul 11

timeeh said :

Captain RAAF said :

The rising sun also causes the lesser skilled drivers to hit the picks, shield their eyes and reach for the panic button. The net result is a series of close calls, shunts and increased frustration for about 5km of drivers as the Parkway slows to walking pace.

Me personally, I adopt the ‘Days of Thunder’ strategy of droppin’ the hammer and pushing on through before the sheep begin to disappear up eachothers arses.

Its also probably the best road to watch people failing to keep left unless overtaking.

+100 Apparently canberrans don’t seem to understand the whole “Keep left unless overtaking” or they can’t read, 50/50.

Cue the “but it’s not illegal crowd”…

Hank 4:56 pm 27 Jul 11
chewy14 4:52 pm 27 Jul 11

Timeeh yep,
i’ve seen many accidents at that exact spot.
Although not actually physically caused by the speed camera it definitely plays it’s part.
Usual scenario:
– Dribbler 1 and Dribbler 2 speeding down to the bottom of the hill on Parkway
– Dribbler 1 hits the anchors just before speed camera
– Dribbler 2 is tailgating and/or not paying attention to Dribbler 1
– Dribbler 2 rear ends Dribbler 1.
– Dribblers 3,4,5 etc do the same.

End Result – Lots of saliva all over the road

I’d like to see a study done on accident rates on this particular part of road for the last couple of years but I don’t think the government wants to be made to look silly if it’s actually increased.

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