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johnboy 29 July 2011 27

ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to the aggravated robbery of a 20-year-old man in Spence early this morning (Thursday, July 28).

About 2.00am the victim caught a taxi to the intersection of Kingsford Smith Drive and Clarey Crescent in Spence after a night out with friends. Shortly after getting out of the taxi the victim was approached by three men, one of whom asked him for a cigarette.

After informing the group of men that he didn’t have a cigarette, he was assaulted and robbed of a sum of cash. As a result of the incident, the victim sustained facial abrasions and lacerations and was taken to Calvary Hospital for treatment.

The three men are described as aged in their early twenties.

Anyone who may be able to assist police with the investigation are asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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Jungle Jim Jungle Jim 9:28 am 03 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

I’ll end my participation in this thread by providing you all with a secret weapon should you find yourself in a no-win scenario, surrounded by any number of people desirous to relieve you of your i-pod, phone, reebok’s or blood supply….

Drop your pants, take a dump in your hands and smear it all over your fists and take up your best Rocky stance and dare then to come in for a bit of action. My money’s on you getting home alive….but needing a shower.

Ah, the crazies. Almost never fails. A mate of mine even managed to simply pour some beer in his hand, sip it (with a slightly crazed look in his eye) and the douche wanting to fight him backed away slowly and left.

It’s all in the delivery.

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 8:04 am 03 Aug 11

Angelina said :

Captain RAAF said :

You won’t have anything to worry about in a courtroom regards ‘use of force’ when you have an impeccable record, a chest full of medals and were outnumbered 3:1.

Next!

I dunno…it didn’t turn out too well for Cameron Poe in Con Air.

The fact still remains that the mugged person in question likely doesn’t have a bunch of shiny medals (though that’s completely irrelevent), or any combat training and in this situation probably did the right thing by not getting into it with three blokes, whether or not he even had time to think about it.

Do you know why these punks hang around in groups of two-three?

It’s because they are sh/t scared and cowards and need the warm fuzzy feeling that a posse gives them. As I said, back yourself in this kind of situation if you even have moderate ability to look after yourself.

The only situation I would be concerned about is when you come across a lone assailant, even more so when you have a mate or two with you. These are the crazies that pull guns/knives/syringes etc.

I’ll end my participation in this thread by providing you all with a secret weapon should you find yourself in a no-win scenario, surrounded by any number of people desirous to relieve you of your i-pod, phone, reebok’s or blood supply….

Drop your pants, take a dump in your hands and smear it all over your fists and take up your best Rocky stance and dare then to come in for a bit of action. My money’s on you getting home alive….but needing a shower.

Angelina Angelina 10:59 pm 02 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

You won’t have anything to worry about in a courtroom regards ‘use of force’ when you have an impeccable record, a chest full of medals and were outnumbered 3:1.

Next!

I dunno…it didn’t turn out too well for Cameron Poe in Con Air.

The fact still remains that the mugged person in question likely doesn’t have a bunch of shiny medals (though that’s completely irrelevent), or any combat training and in this situation probably did the right thing by not getting into it with three blokes, whether or not he even had time to think about it.

Watson Watson 10:14 am 02 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

You won’t have anything to worry about in a courtroom regards ‘use of force’ when you have an impeccable record, a chest full of medals and were outnumbered 3:1.

Next!

Apparently if you are related to a judge or politician, you’ll get away with murder too. It’s good to know the system works. 😀

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 9:52 am 02 Aug 11

You won’t have anything to worry about in a courtroom regards ‘use of force’ when you have an impeccable record, a chest full of medals and were outnumbered 3:1.

Next!

Beserk Keyboard Warrior Beserk Keyboard Warrior 9:32 am 02 Aug 11

Martlark said :

2am in Spence? Dropped off at a corner? Why not at his house? I call bogus. There is never any one ‘hanging around’ on corners in the middle of the night in Canberra winters. Sounds like some ‘friends’ had a bit of a falling out.

I get dropped off around the corner from my house and walk down a path all the time. Saves me about $10 since the cab doesn’t have to go through a couple more sets of lights. And sometimes you’re just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But there’s always going to be suspcious types who doubt anything and everything because they think they know better, when its obvious they don’t know shite.

Watson Watson 7:27 am 02 Aug 11

Classified said :

I think it would be fair to say that there are an awful lot of people within the community who are sick of hearing about crime with no apparent consequence. If criminals were punished, hell – even rehabilitated, I think that would go a long way towards resolving this issue, but they just don’t seem to be.

I do also think that there should be clear and harsh consequences for anyone resorting to violence. (anyone, RAAF!)

But come to think of it, maybe it was RAAF and his mates settling a score? Maybe the guy getting out of the taxi had broken one of his rules and needed some decency beaten into him? In which case we can all relax now, because the law (RAAF law, that is) has been upheld.

Watson Watson 11:10 pm 01 Aug 11

Martlark said :

2am in Spence? Dropped off at a corner? Why not at his house? I call bogus. There is never any one ‘hanging around’ on corners in the middle of the night in Canberra winters. Sounds like some ‘friends’ had a bit of a falling out.

Fair point, detective!

Angelina Angelina 10:32 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

Okay, so say you were in this situation and you beat the living shite out of one or all of these guys, can’t you then get in some serious trouble for using excessive force to protect yourself?

And isn’t the point you raised earlier (about people sometimes being scared to fight because of the possible legal repurcussions) valid when some smartarse crim hires a lawyer and sues you for breaking his arm while you were defending yourself but he swears he was just asking for a smoke?

I also don’t believe that your mum could beat seven shades of anything out of 3 guys at 2am when she’s been out on the town all night. That’s just foolishness.

And what if while he’s punching on with one of the guys, a second guy stabs him in the guts? What then? He dies with honour and valour does he? His parents/siblings/mates might disagree with you there.

Also, as I’m sure you are aware, not everyone has had close combat instruction so not everyone is comfortable with their skills in this area. And if everyone had close combat instruction then wouldn’t everyone just be fighting each other to the death all the time since we’d all be as deadly as each other?

Theres a whole lot a reasons for increases in violent cimes like this one but less men beating the shit out of muggers in the streets isn’t one of them.

Martlark Martlark 10:17 pm 01 Aug 11

2am in Spence? Dropped off at a corner? Why not at his house? I call bogus. There is never any one ‘hanging around’ on corners in the middle of the night in Canberra winters. Sounds like some ‘friends’ had a bit of a falling out.

EandIprefix EandIprefix 9:55 pm 01 Aug 11

Hoodie wearing thugs in Belconnen area are known by police to be concealing an air pistol and sometimes an actual pistol in a special pocket at the back. One of these thugs was visiting JB Hi-Fi in Woden where he shot the entry and exit security guard (one report stated it was the Manager who was shot). The Hughes shops shooting involved an actual pistol not an air pistol.

Classified Classified 9:12 pm 01 Aug 11

I think it would be fair to say that there are an awful lot of people within the community who are sick of hearing about crime with no apparent consequence. If criminals were punished, hell – even rehabilitated, I think that would go a long way towards resolving this issue, but they just don’t seem to be.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 6:20 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

It’s not about whether you’ve got the stomach to take someone down hard. It’s about picking your fights, and whether you are capable of engaging and dropping three opponents in the few seconds before one of them starts stabbing you or gets the drop on you. And if you’ve sufficiently pissed them off with your unsuccessful attack, there’s a fair chance they won’t stop kicking your head before you’re brain dead.

Watson Watson 5:08 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

The man who is prepared to do what will not fail, thats who! A man who will cast aside all the rules that have let you down and restore that which is honorable and right! Good men will always outnumber evil but people like you, Watson, help to level out the playing field and hence are part of the problem.

Yes rules are so overrated. Anarchy is the only way to go.

dpm dpm 4:16 pm 01 Aug 11

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

True. I imagine the poor dude that got out of the cab was 11/10th p1ssed and lucky to be standing at the time. Probably unlikely to put up much of a fight (or run away) successfully. 🙁

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 4:07 pm 01 Aug 11

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 2:35 pm 01 Aug 11

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Jivrashia Jivrashia 1:34 pm 01 Aug 11

Sydney: Do you have the time?
Perth: Do you have a smoke?
Canberra: Do you have a cigarette?

Okay, duly noted. They are the prompt for you to do a mad dash.

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 1:33 pm 01 Aug 11

Watson said :

Our city would be so much safer if we would sort out all our problems by a good old fashioned testosterone driven fist fight. Men who are unfortunate enough to miss out on the height and big muscle genes should be prepared for daily beatings of course. Or hire some protection. And naturally women should stay in the kitchen and do as they’re told. Unless they can kickbox maybe.

We will rename our city utopia and declare war on Sydney where all men are weak and gay and obviously not able to solve their own problems.

So you dispute that when all else has failed that a man’s fists are all that he has left to do good with?

Who do you appeal to when all appeals have been ignored?
Who will you cry to when all cries are silenced?
Who will stand up for you when everyone else has fallen?

The man who is prepared to do what will not fail, thats who! A man who will cast aside all the rules that have let you down and restore that which is honorable and right! Good men will always outnumber evil but people like you, Watson, help to level out the playing field and hence are part of the problem.

Whats the old saying, ‘Evil will prevail when good men do nothing’, or words to that effect?

You are doing nothing. Stand aside and let the men through!

Stevian Stevian 1:15 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Mysteryman said :

Is this city slowly becoming more of a crap hole, or are incidents like this just being reported more these days?

No, it’s just that there are less people prepared to sort these scumbags out the good old fashioned way because we have bred a generation (or two) of spinelss, gutless SNAG’s who can’t fight, won’t fight or fear being sued for defending themselves.

Once these thugs come across someone ‘old school’ and get duly sorted, you will find this kind of thing will happen less and less.

I’ll give you a tip, if you are anywhere during the wee-small hours and some punk asks you for a cigarette, your very first reaction should be to punch him fair in the face with the best you have, no prizes for second, don’t go easy on him, just hit him hard.

You can then run off if you like or stick around to sort out his mates but I guarantee you, once he is on his arse you are in control and the bonus is you’ll get to keep your wallet, watch and Reebok’s!

All hat, no cattle,

You’re pathetic

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