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ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to the aggravated robbery of a 20-year-old man in Spence early this morning (Thursday, July 28).

About 2.00am the victim caught a taxi to the intersection of Kingsford Smith Drive and Clarey Crescent in Spence after a night out with friends. Shortly after getting out of the taxi the victim was approached by three men, one of whom asked him for a cigarette.

After informing the group of men that he didn’t have a cigarette, he was assaulted and robbed of a sum of cash. As a result of the incident, the victim sustained facial abrasions and lacerations and was taken to Calvary Hospital for treatment.

The three men are described as aged in their early twenties.

Anyone who may be able to assist police with the investigation are asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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Mysteryman Mysteryman 10:14 am 01 Aug 11

Is this city slowly becoming more of a crap hole, or are incidents like this just being reported more these days?

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 10:25 am 01 Aug 11

Mysteryman said :

Is this city slowly becoming more of a crap hole, or are incidents like this just being reported more these days?

No, it’s just that there are less people prepared to sort these scumbags out the good old fashioned way because we have bred a generation (or two) of spinelss, gutless SNAG’s who can’t fight, won’t fight or fear being sued for defending themselves.

Once these thugs come across someone ‘old school’ and get duly sorted, you will find this kind of thing will happen less and less.

I’ll give you a tip, if you are anywhere during the wee-small hours and some punk asks you for a cigarette, your very first reaction should be to punch him fair in the face with the best you have, no prizes for second, don’t go easy on him, just hit him hard.

You can then run off if you like or stick around to sort out his mates but I guarantee you, once he is on his arse you are in control and the bonus is you’ll get to keep your wallet, watch and Reebok’s!

The Frots The Frots 11:02 am 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Mysteryman said :

Is this city slowly becoming more of a crap hole, or are incidents like this just being reported more these days?

No, it’s just that there are less people prepared to sort these scumbags out the good old fashioned way because we have bred a generation (or two) of spinelss, gutless SNAG’s who can’t fight, won’t fight or fear being sued for defending themselves.

Once these thugs come across someone ‘old school’ and get duly sorted, you will find this kind of thing will happen less and less.

I’ll give you a tip, if you are anywhere during the wee-small hours and some punk asks you for a cigarette, your very first reaction should be to punch him fair in the face with the best you have, no prizes for second, don’t go easy on him, just hit him hard.

You can then run off if you like or stick around to sort out his mates but I guarantee you, once he is on his arse you are in control and the bonus is you’ll get to keep your wallet, watch and Reebok’s!

Amen!

dpm dpm 11:09 am 01 Aug 11

What were the odds on getting out of the taxi at the exact spot three twats were waiting – at 2am! Bad karma…..
Or maybe ‘thugs’ are on every corner in Belco at 2am…? hahaha!

I also like the Captain’s response. Sounds like perfect advice! Let’s face it, anyone wandering the suburbs at that time of night surely isn’t just dying for a ciggie!

JessP JessP 11:17 am 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF for Chief Minister!

Watson Watson 12:26 pm 01 Aug 11

Our city would be so much safer if we would sort out all our problems by a good old fashioned testosterone driven fist fight. Men who are unfortunate enough to miss out on the height and big muscle genes should be prepared for daily beatings of course. Or hire some protection. And naturally women should stay in the kitchen and do as they’re told. Unless they can kickbox maybe.

We will rename our city utopia and declare war on Sydney where all men are weak and gay and obviously not able to solve their own problems.

Stevian Stevian 12:50 pm 01 Aug 11

JessP said :

Captain RAAF for Chief Minister!

But 12 year olds can’t stand for public office.

Stevian Stevian 1:15 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Mysteryman said :

Is this city slowly becoming more of a crap hole, or are incidents like this just being reported more these days?

No, it’s just that there are less people prepared to sort these scumbags out the good old fashioned way because we have bred a generation (or two) of spinelss, gutless SNAG’s who can’t fight, won’t fight or fear being sued for defending themselves.

Once these thugs come across someone ‘old school’ and get duly sorted, you will find this kind of thing will happen less and less.

I’ll give you a tip, if you are anywhere during the wee-small hours and some punk asks you for a cigarette, your very first reaction should be to punch him fair in the face with the best you have, no prizes for second, don’t go easy on him, just hit him hard.

You can then run off if you like or stick around to sort out his mates but I guarantee you, once he is on his arse you are in control and the bonus is you’ll get to keep your wallet, watch and Reebok’s!

All hat, no cattle,

You’re pathetic

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 1:33 pm 01 Aug 11

Watson said :

Our city would be so much safer if we would sort out all our problems by a good old fashioned testosterone driven fist fight. Men who are unfortunate enough to miss out on the height and big muscle genes should be prepared for daily beatings of course. Or hire some protection. And naturally women should stay in the kitchen and do as they’re told. Unless they can kickbox maybe.

We will rename our city utopia and declare war on Sydney where all men are weak and gay and obviously not able to solve their own problems.

So you dispute that when all else has failed that a man’s fists are all that he has left to do good with?

Who do you appeal to when all appeals have been ignored?
Who will you cry to when all cries are silenced?
Who will stand up for you when everyone else has fallen?

The man who is prepared to do what will not fail, thats who! A man who will cast aside all the rules that have let you down and restore that which is honorable and right! Good men will always outnumber evil but people like you, Watson, help to level out the playing field and hence are part of the problem.

Whats the old saying, ‘Evil will prevail when good men do nothing’, or words to that effect?

You are doing nothing. Stand aside and let the men through!

Jivrashia Jivrashia 1:34 pm 01 Aug 11

Sydney: Do you have the time?
Perth: Do you have a smoke?
Canberra: Do you have a cigarette?

Okay, duly noted. They are the prompt for you to do a mad dash.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 2:35 pm 01 Aug 11

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 4:07 pm 01 Aug 11

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

dpm dpm 4:16 pm 01 Aug 11

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

True. I imagine the poor dude that got out of the cab was 11/10th p1ssed and lucky to be standing at the time. Probably unlikely to put up much of a fight (or run away) successfully. 🙁

Watson Watson 5:08 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

The man who is prepared to do what will not fail, thats who! A man who will cast aside all the rules that have let you down and restore that which is honorable and right! Good men will always outnumber evil but people like you, Watson, help to level out the playing field and hence are part of the problem.

Yes rules are so overrated. Anarchy is the only way to go.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 6:20 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

It’s not about whether you’ve got the stomach to take someone down hard. It’s about picking your fights, and whether you are capable of engaging and dropping three opponents in the few seconds before one of them starts stabbing you or gets the drop on you. And if you’ve sufficiently pissed them off with your unsuccessful attack, there’s a fair chance they won’t stop kicking your head before you’re brain dead.

Classified Classified 9:12 pm 01 Aug 11

I think it would be fair to say that there are an awful lot of people within the community who are sick of hearing about crime with no apparent consequence. If criminals were punished, hell – even rehabilitated, I think that would go a long way towards resolving this issue, but they just don’t seem to be.

EandIprefix EandIprefix 9:55 pm 01 Aug 11

Hoodie wearing thugs in Belconnen area are known by police to be concealing an air pistol and sometimes an actual pistol in a special pocket at the back. One of these thugs was visiting JB Hi-Fi in Woden where he shot the entry and exit security guard (one report stated it was the Manager who was shot). The Hughes shops shooting involved an actual pistol not an air pistol.

Martlark Martlark 10:17 pm 01 Aug 11

2am in Spence? Dropped off at a corner? Why not at his house? I call bogus. There is never any one ‘hanging around’ on corners in the middle of the night in Canberra winters. Sounds like some ‘friends’ had a bit of a falling out.

Angelina Angelina 10:32 pm 01 Aug 11

Captain RAAF said :

Postalgeek said :

I’m all for beating the crap out of someone who tries to bum a ciggie, but flouting the odds and attacking three unknown opponents in the middle of the night is the sort of strategy I imagine only keyboard heros live to recount.

Have you seen the make up of the typical ciggy bumming thuggie at 2 am?

My mum would beat seven shades of sh/t out of them!

Back yourself, always back yourself and go in hard, harder than you have ever done anything. When they want to talk, you smack them in the mouth, when they want to smack you in the mouth you hit them with a tyre iron, when they hit you with a tyre iron you rip their eyes out with your bare hands!!

It’s what I was taught by my close combat instructor years ago…..but I admit, its not for everyone.

Okay, so say you were in this situation and you beat the living shite out of one or all of these guys, can’t you then get in some serious trouble for using excessive force to protect yourself?

And isn’t the point you raised earlier (about people sometimes being scared to fight because of the possible legal repurcussions) valid when some smartarse crim hires a lawyer and sues you for breaking his arm while you were defending yourself but he swears he was just asking for a smoke?

I also don’t believe that your mum could beat seven shades of anything out of 3 guys at 2am when she’s been out on the town all night. That’s just foolishness.

And what if while he’s punching on with one of the guys, a second guy stabs him in the guts? What then? He dies with honour and valour does he? His parents/siblings/mates might disagree with you there.

Also, as I’m sure you are aware, not everyone has had close combat instruction so not everyone is comfortable with their skills in this area. And if everyone had close combat instruction then wouldn’t everyone just be fighting each other to the death all the time since we’d all be as deadly as each other?

Theres a whole lot a reasons for increases in violent cimes like this one but less men beating the shit out of muggers in the streets isn’t one of them.

Watson Watson 11:10 pm 01 Aug 11

Martlark said :

2am in Spence? Dropped off at a corner? Why not at his house? I call bogus. There is never any one ‘hanging around’ on corners in the middle of the night in Canberra winters. Sounds like some ‘friends’ had a bit of a falling out.

Fair point, detective!

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