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Statehood for ACT

By Frug - 14 February 2010 43

Is there a good reason we haven’t become a State of Australia?

If we did we’d get equal representation in the HoR and Senate and also prevent the Federal Government from flipping our laws as they see fit.

The NT have already taken (apart from the failed referendum) big steps down this path. Why can’t we?

I’ve set up a facebook group (“Statehood for Canberra”) with the idea that with enough discussion, pushing, nagging we might see it happen by 2020.

What’s Your opinion?


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43 Responses to
Statehood for ACT
old canberran 11:10 am 15 Feb 10

I doubt whether statehood for the ACT could ever happen while the Crown owns all the land and controls the National aspects of the Territory such as the Parliamentary triangle etc.

Power Protect 10:37 am 15 Feb 10

deye said :

meh, abolish all states and make it two levels, fed and super councils 😀

+1

The last thing we need is someone pushing for another level of governance.

Can someone please tell me what really needs to be managed on a state by state level.

Hospitals – every state has hospitals…manage it nationally
Schools – every state has schools…manage it nationally
Transport – better dealt with on a local level, with collaboration between regions

The only downside I see to removing Australia’s middle level of government is a steep jump in unemployment, but with sufficient planning and a little compensation this can be dealt with and ultimately the nation will save a fortune.

Feathergirl 10:32 am 15 Feb 10

The ACS doesn’t sound as snappy as the ACT. Or would our new state have a new name? Suggestion – New Reptoidland???

Holden Caulfield 10:15 am 15 Feb 10

+1 to deye

T1G3R 10:04 am 15 Feb 10

yah I’m not real keen on statehood especially after seeing how all the other states are going!

sloppery 10:01 am 15 Feb 10

deye said :

meh, abolish all states and make it two levels, fed and super councils 😀

Yep, and use the besquillion dollars that would be saved to improve core service delivery.

deye 9:40 am 15 Feb 10

meh, abolish all states and make it two levels, fed and super councils 😀

Frug 9:16 am 15 Feb 10

Section 121 of the Constitution allows for the creation of new states but Parliament can decide what representation the new state gets. It would be difficult for a polly to argue that there is something about the folk of ACT that they deserved any less representation than other states as population is supposed to be an issue in the upper house.

WHy bother? Well, right now ACT people are under-represented in Parliament. Many, probably couldn’t give a damn because they have little/no faith in what happens in APH anyway. I reckon, however, that the concept of ‘territory’ as applies to NT and ACT is an anachronism that we could fix without much trouble. We deserve the same voting, legislative, democratic voice as the Tasmanians, South Australians, Victorians etc.

As for Commonwealth control over the ACT – we have had self gov for long enough to prove that we can run our own affairs with at least some sanity some of the time….. If the Commonwealth was petrified that we were going to vote for APH to be a 9 hole golf course (you can’t tell me that wouldn’t be great) then we could, in our own ACT constitutional document exclude the Parliamentary triangle.

Aurelius 9:02 am 15 Feb 10

Just to correct Trevar on a minor point: there are no provisions in the Aust Constitution to allow secession of a state.

The ACT was not a colony at the time of Federation, and thus was not included in the document as a state. Amendment could be made to the constitution, but of course that rarely happens.

imhotep 8:51 am 15 Feb 10

I can’t see what is to be gained by Statehood for the ACT. If it is simply to prevent the Federal Government “flipping our laws as they see fit” I’m not concerned.

In my view the current ACT Assembly is already far too interested in dancing on the national stage, and not interested enough in simply managing our city efficiently.

trevar 7:31 am 15 Feb 10

The ACT, like the District of Columbia in the US, was set up to serve the interests of the nation, which is why the Constitution provides for the establishment of a separate territory that is controlled by the Commonwealth. There is a problem with this arrangement insofar as the supreme power over the people of the capital territory (who are theoretically a sovereign people) is vested in the sovereign people of the states, but this is mostly addressed by self-government.

A state should be able to secede from the Commonwealth, and to establish laws exclusively in their own interest; but there is a threat to the integrity and usefulness of the capital of the nation if it is also a state, which can engage in self-interested changes with no concern for the interests of the Commonwealth.

New South Wales’ current political instability is a prime example of a state failing to act in the best interests of the nation. I’d be more inclined to support the abolition of the other six states than the introduction of another.

daniel 1:27 am 15 Feb 10

I suspect that even if a push gained support, that we wouldn’t get the full complement of (currently 12) senators. Those only go to original states.

T1G3R 1:23 am 15 Feb 10

umm… what for?

Anna Key 10:25 pm 14 Feb 10

Not necessarily. Only the original states have those rights, I think any new states would have their rights dictated by the Parliament.

By the way, do you want statehood for the ACT or just Canberra?

sexynotsmart 9:49 pm 14 Feb 10

Huzzah! A political chestnut I have a position on. (Insert air guitar hotlick here.)

ACT should become a state when the population exceeds that of Tasmania.

There will be pressure to make ACT part of NSW. This should be resisted at all costs. If forced to join another state, ACT should become part of WA. Can you imagine a state with two non-contiguous timezones? Awesome!

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