TAMS goes to war with the bowhunters of Mount Ainslie

Ben_Dover said :

TheObserver said :

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine archers as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid.

and you conflate that into something that it isnt. Errrm, that is called misrepresentation or to be polite a barefaced bloody liar.

Mea culpa. I have a strong dislike for hunting per se. Why not hunt with a camera if you must.

Because I am hungry…….

Ben_Dover said :

TheObserver said :

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine archers as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid.

and you conflate that into something that it isnt. Errrm, that is called misrepresentation or to be polite a barefaced bloody liar.

Mea culpa. I have a strong dislike for hunting per se. Why not hunt with a camera if you must.

Well – that is OK Ben – you are entitled to your view and I respect it. Not even going to call you names. I like to hunt. My wife doesnt. Some of my friends do, some dont. No biggie. As for a camera in fact I often practise my stalking and then use a camera. And while I hunt, the end point for me is organic game meat that I harvest myself – and reduce the feral population a bit.

TheObserver said :

KB1971 said :

alaninoz said :

As both an archer and bowhunter all I can say is that I hope these criminals are caught, prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and that they receive an appropriate penalty – and I don’t mean a slap on the wrist.

Are the rules for bow hunters the same for shooters? (other than the licencing arrangements…)

Put it this way – what is going on here is equally illegal whether by bow or rifle – but even on private property it is illegal to shoot a kangaroo or other native with a bow. Shooting kangaroos with a rifle may have other rules attached to it – permits, quotas etc. But shooting natives with a bow is illegal. Full stop. Anywhere. But stay braced for the intellectual dishonesty brigade to get their shrilly knickers in a knot blaming all archery enthusiasts and calling for regulation, prohibition etc. Sometimes I wonder if these folk’s mouths stopped moving their brains might start working. We’ll see.

The reason I ask is that a rifle is a prohibited weapon, a bow is not. For me to go shooting rabbits I need to not do it in a public place which means the Mt Ainslie reserve.

Do the same restrictions apply for bow hunters is what I am asking. I am well aware you need to hunt roos with a permit & in certain areas.

I guess my question is, what is the law that specifically stops a bow hunter from heading out to Mt Ainslie to pop some rabbits off (they are not protected)? The ACT legislation has many holes & it may only have regulations that apply to shooters, just saying.

The person wielding the bow could have been doing just this & been a crap shot.

TheObserver said :

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine archers as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid.

and you conflate that into something that it isnt. Errrm, that is called misrepresentation or to be polite a barefaced bloody liar.

Mea culpa. I have a strong dislike for hunting per se. Why not hunt with a camera if you must.

Mysteryman said :

Can someone please tell me what the law is regarding bow hunting? Is it legal anywhere?

Yes. It is legal subject to the laws which govern it regarding the circumstances. Upon private land targetting feral animals such as wild pigs and goats, it’s rare for there to be any problems legality wise. Different areas, states and animals have different regulations and requirements. However, lets not get off track about the issue here.

What has happened is not bowhunting. It is environmental vandalism and the horrific treatment of animals. As well as being illegal to hunt in the ACT, negligent in the safety of members of the public and all around being a cock.

With the plethora of cheap chinese compound bows being available on the Internet and sportstores, it’s going to be a waste of time asking the archery shops in town.

It’s unfortunate that all archers are going to feel the heat for this one. One moron ruins the reputation of a bunch of responsible people. Actually, it would be rather fitting for a report of a yob with a compound bow having had the shit beaten out of him by a bunch of people in hunting camo.

I’d be calling that “case closed” if I was the local constabulary..

Mysteryman said :

Can someone please tell me what the law is regarding bow hunting? Is it legal anywhere?

It’s my understanding, and I may be wrong, that hunting of any kind is illegal in the ACT unless it’s under a specific license, for example the kangaroo culls. In the other Australian states (except for Tasmania) and in the Northern Territory it’s legal to hunt feral animals with a bow. In NSW, and possibly other states, it’s also regulated – see http://www.gamecouncil.nsw.gov.au/ for example.

KB1971 said :

alaninoz said :

As both an archer and bowhunter all I can say is that I hope these criminals are caught, prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and that they receive an appropriate penalty – and I don’t mean a slap on the wrist.

Are the rules for bow hunters the same for shooters? (other than the licencing arrangements…)

Put it this way – what is going on here is equally illegal whether by bow or rifle – but even on private property it is illegal to shoot a kangaroo or other native with a bow. Shooting kangaroos with a rifle may have other rules attached to it – permits, quotas etc. But shooting natives with a bow is illegal. Full stop. Anywhere. But stay braced for the intellectual dishonesty brigade to get their shrilly knickers in a knot blaming all archery enthusiasts and calling for regulation, prohibition etc. Sometimes I wonder if these folk’s mouths stopped moving their brains might start working. We’ll see.

Can someone please tell me what the law is regarding bow hunting? Is it legal anywhere?

Ben_Dover said :

qbngeek said :

Damn right, only we will put that bow so far up thier butts that they will be nocking arrows in thier nostrils and drawing with thier ears.

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine bowhunters to go out and kill wild animals for fun, as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid as to get caught.

😉

Riiiight – actually what qbngeek said was:

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine archers as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid.

and you conflate that into something that it isnt. Errrm, that is called misrepresentation or to be polite a barefaced bloody liar.

Did somebody say a stray arrow could accidentally hit a cyclist?!?!?!?

qbngeek said :

Damn right, only we will put that bow so far up thier butts that they will be nocking arrows in thier nostrils and drawing with thier ears.

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine bowhunters to go out and kill wild animals for fun, as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid as to get caught.

😉

I used to be a Kangaroo like you, then I took an arrow to the knee.

Another day, another complete moron.

Mind you, one report said that a “professional bow and arrow” had been used – whatever that is. Does he mean it was bought in a shop? In which case a good start might be the two dealers in the ACT to see if they recognise it as one of their products. And both would likely assist to the full extent as this sort of thing is the sort of thing that would put them out of business.

Anyone with more than half a brain and an ounce of ethics who is into archery in the ACT, whether field, target, or those that hunt would not either shoot in a public reserve or shoot at natives. In all the archery shops that I use there are prominent signs stating very clearly that it is illegal to shoot native species with a bow.

This is something that I predict the RSPCA will leap all over, seeking to tar all archery enthusiasts with the same brush in the atypical and yet hypocritical style. Hypocritical? Yep – because every time a pitbull chows down on a kid, the local CEO bleats about blaming the breed. Well Mr Linke – don’t dish it out if you cannot eat it.

I sincerely hope the idiots responsible are caught and prosecuted – likely though they are juveniles and will get a whap across the nose with a limp stick of celery by one of our local Magistrates for showing faux remorse.

alaninoz said :

As both an archer and bowhunter all I can say is that I hope these criminals are caught, prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and that they receive an appropriate penalty – and I don’t mean a slap on the wrist.

Are the rules for bow hunters the same for shooters? (other than the licencing arrangements…)

Stevian said :

Felix the Cat said :

The other problem apart from killing/maiming kangaroos is that the arrow could potentially miss it’s intended target and hit a MTBer or bush walker.

I can’t see that as being an entirely bad thing

What, you dont like kangaroos?

almost sounds like the person who stole the Bow and Arrows a while back is putting his new found toy to good use…. hope the prick gets caught

Disinformation said :

The biggest threat to these idiots is if the law abiding bowhunters and target archers get hold of them. The actions of one idiot always tars everyone else with the same brush.
If someone turns up at the hospital requiring an object suspiciously like a hunting bow removed from a rectal cavity, you can be sure that the archery community has found their man.

Damn right, only we will put that bow so far up thier butts that they will be nocking arrows in thier nostrils and drawing with thier ears.

This sort of crap makes life so much harder for genuine archers as everyone seems to think that someone from one of the archery clubs is involved, as if we would be that stupid.

Felix the Cat said :

The other problem apart from killing/maiming kangaroos is that the arrow could potentially miss it’s intended target and hit a MTBer or bush walker.

I can’t see that as being an entirely bad thing

The biggest threat to these idiots is if the law abiding bowhunters and target archers get hold of them. The actions of one idiot always tars everyone else with the same brush.
If someone turns up at the hospital requiring an object suspiciously like a hunting bow removed from a rectal cavity, you can be sure that the archery community has found their man.

It sounds like Deliverance on Mount Ainslie at the moment.
All we need is a banjo festival…

The other problem apart from killing/maiming kangaroos is that the arrow could potentially miss it’s intended target and hit a MTBer or bush walker.

I lack words to describe my contempt for someone who does this, let alone the consequences if a person is hit by an arrow.

As both an archer and bowhunter all I can say is that I hope these criminals are caught, prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and that they receive an appropriate penalty – and I don’t mean a slap on the wrist.

Well, it’s a rare bowhunter who wants to lose their arrows.

And it’s not like our fisher friends don’t end up leaving hooks in all manner of fish.

But agreed this is probably not a great place for this activity.

Yeah, I am not sure about the use of a bow & arrows in public places. As a firarms license holder I would be hung drawn & quartered if I decided to wander around with my .22 maiming animals.

If you are going to hunt, use your kill. If you are going to hunt for fun & end up maiming animals, then you are a retard.

They know there will be no consequences to their actions, that’s what wrong with them.