16 April 2012

Teen servo blaggers apprehended

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ACT Policing has arrested two 17-year-old male teenagers after an aggravated robbery took place at the Holt Caltex Service Station last night (Sunday, April 15).

About 10pm, the two teenagers, armed with knives entered the service station and approached the cashier. The teenagers made a number of threats and demands before the cashier opened the cash register and fled the store.

A short time later, the cashier saw the two teenagers run from the service station, carrying the cash tray from the register. The cashier returned to the service station and contacted police.

Around 10.10pm, members of Belconnen General Duties located the two teenagers on Beaurepaire Crescent, Holt. A foot pursuit commenced and the two teenagers were quickly apprehended. Police found property from the service station on one of the teenagers.

Detective Sergeant Richard Gough from ACT Policing Criminal Investigations said that the information provided to police was critical in apprehending the two teenagers so quickly.

“The information provided to police in a timely manner ensured that attending officers had the best possible chance to apprehend the offenders.

“The cashier did the right thing by looking after his personal safety and removing himself from danger. There is no point in putting your life in danger over cash or a few packets of cigarettes,” Detective Sergeant Gough said.

The two teenagers were taken to the ACT Watch House and charged with two counts of aggravated robbery. They will face the ACT Childrens Court today.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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AsparagusSyndrome said :

Holt? Who goes there??

Genius!

JonnieWalker10:42 pm 18 Apr 12

Captain RAAF said :

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

or my personal fave,

‘the accused has an indigenous heritage. His mother’s father came from the Noongar people in Western Australia’.

You are free to go!

+1 Raffie

JonnieWalker10:41 pm 18 Apr 12

Stevian said :

Captain RAAF said :

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

or my personal fave,

‘the accused has an indigenous heritage. His mother’s father came from the Noongar people in Western Australia’.

You are free to go!

I see your riding your Racist pony again. Ho Hum

If someone chooses to use their race, culture, gender, religion or socio-economic background as a legal defence, then why should that stated defence not be allowed the same level of examination and criticism as any other legal defence? Any defence should not be off limits to attack at prosecution it if it is allowed to be used, and too often is.

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Dunno about 16 year olds, but 17 definitely. If they are old enough to be in charge of a deadly weapon – a car – they are old enough to be responsible for their other actions.

AsparagusSyndrome11:35 pm 17 Apr 12

Spykler said :

Holt- Competing with Florey to see who can be the new Charnwood.

Holt? Who goes there??

seems the courts deem armed hold ups and assaults are not serious crimes anymore.

I say lock the little bastards up for a few years for armed robbery and mugging people for mobile phones, Drunken assaults. I’m sure they will stop fairly quickly once word gets out that you will go to gaol and you will be there for two years.

Stevian said :

Captain RAAF said :

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

or my personal fave,

‘the accused has an indigenous heritage. His mother’s father came from the Noongar people in Western Australia’.

You are free to go!

I see your riding your Racist pony again. Ho Hum

People play the race card, pointing it our isn’t racism, it’s fact.

Some have tried to get our of rape and domestic violence charges claiming cultural reasons.

Cot death missed them. Bugger.

Captain RAAF said :

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

or my personal fave,

‘the accused has an indigenous heritage. His mother’s father came from the Noongar people in Western Australia’.

You are free to go!

I see your riding your Racist pony again. Ho Hum

c_c said :

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

I’m getting very tired of that excuse being used to let people off softly. The logic doesn’t hold up.

.

This is always trotted out here, most often before cases even go trial, as evidence of the failure of the legal system, but is it true or just a right-wing delusion?

PrinceOfAles7:24 pm 17 Apr 12

Stupid kids. You can never find a dingo when you need one.

Holt- Competing with Florey to see who can be the new Charnwood.

Captain RAAF1:53 pm 16 Apr 12

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

or my personal fave,

‘the accused has an indigenous heritage. His mother’s father came from the Noongar people in Western Australia’.

You are free to go!

Jivrashia said :

“The information provided to police in a timely manner ensured that attending officers had the best possible chance to apprehend the offenders.”

Would like to seriously know what crucial information had a member of the public passed on to police that allowed them to lead to the crims?

The presence of two hooded teenagers walking the street?

I’m going to go with exact descriptions of what the two were wearing, what they looked like etc.

c_c said :

It is true that low socio-economic circumstance does negatively impact on educational outcomes. In fact a student who comes from a welfare family will by the middle of primary school have only have the vocabulary of a student from a more affluent background. That impact of educational outcomes subsequently affects occupational prospects.

Magically going from that through to criminal activity is moronic and a silly line of reasoning for lawyers and judges to follow.

While the statistics say it might be true, they don’t take into account the full picture. I grew up in one of the poorest areas of Adelaide, with the majority of my childhood spent in a single parent family or within an abusive regime from a stepfather. My mum and dad (while he was about) took an interest in my education; that is the key. It’s when parents don’t give a rat’s arse or claim they kids are out of control. First one is inexcusable, and the second is just plain bulls***.

If kids are out of control, it’s generally because their parents/family have let them be that way from an early age. Certainly, some good kids go bad, as I almost did; for them, it’s hard to know what will work. I was fortunate; I was dragged back into line by older cousins who informed me in no uncertain terms what would happen if I continued on that path.

“The information provided to police in a timely manner ensured that attending officers had the best possible chance to apprehend the offenders.”

Would like to seriously know what crucial information had a member of the public passed on to police that allowed them to lead to the crims?

The presence of two hooded teenagers walking the street?

Dilandach said :

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

I’m getting very tired of that excuse being used to let people off softly. The logic doesn’t hold up.

It is true that low socio-economic circumstance does negatively impact on educational outcomes. In fact a student who comes from a welfare family will by the middle of primary school have only have the vocabulary of a student from a more affluent background. That impact of educational outcomes subsequently affects occupational prospects.

Magically going from that through to criminal activity is moronic and a silly line of reasoning for lawyers and judges to follow.

Given what a sparky or a plumber can make, and certainly someone in resources, you frankly don’t need to be wordy or intellectual to live a decent life these days.

What it comes down to is character, not circumstance. Some of the greatest people in this country have come from humble beginnings and were able to be successful, not because of the dollars in their pocket but the character they were engendered with. Those who lack character and commit crimes against society should be dealt with as an example to others and to firmly impress on them the need to change.

Mysteryman said :

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

Your honour, the defendants have had terrible childhoods in low socio-economic circumstances that could have potentially included violence. Imposing a custodial sentence on these young men at this time for a low range crime would not be a benefit to the community, they have not had the chance to rehabilitate themselves and show that they’re an asset to the wider public.

I would support a push for changing the law to allow 16 and 17 year olds to be tried as adults.

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