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Tharwa residents to blame for no bridge

By Thumper - 29 January 2008 44

In a breathtakingly arrogant statement reminiscent of the bushfires and associated responsibility, Chief Minister Jon Stanhope has blamed Tharwa residents for the debacle about their bridge and accused them of exaggerating how bad the detour is.

The canberra Times article is here.

This government goes beyond parody at times.

However, the bridge looks as if it will be fixed. This is a good and sensible outcome.

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Tharwa residents to blame for no bridge
MelonHead 8:45 pm 29 Jan 08

I am lead to believe that there is a department within the NSW RTA that only maintain wooden bridges (old wooden bridges). If you look at how many old wooden bridges there are in NSW, and how many in the ACT, you would have thought that these people would be a good bet for a bit of advice.

Minister for Potholes and his circus have ignored every suggestion that has been put to them. Especially calls to seek useful advice.

If your front door of your house is destroyed by whatever, the consultation process is: “Yep fix the door.” If your bridge is condemned through your own stupidity, then it is the nearest persons’ fault.

And as for the crap about “not enough taxpayers..” What a moron comment. It could be anyone of us, eg GregW, lost in Namadgi National Park waiting for a rescue party to take the Point Hut detour to find your sorry arse.

The Bridge is for all residents of the PLANET to use. Especially those who live and work in the village, and the surrounding district, and their visitors.

It’s well known that the Stanhope government fears anything that is not the norm. eg urban development, road extensions, natural disaster management. So the Village, and district of Tharwa with their unique circumstances, frighten the crap out of them. It is lucky that Hall doesn’t need a bridge.

Did anyone read/complete the survey? If so you would know that this Government has no idea, and is taking BAD advice.

Now it is back to paying my rates and taxes.

Doctor Evil 6:42 pm 29 Jan 08

“The bridge will be rebuilt, yes rebuilt, incorporting steel elements that will complement the wood-work so that it will look like the old bridge.”

Correct, and given that a large proportion of the existing bridge has been replaced over the last 20 years, Tharwa will effectively get a “new” bridge anyway that takes way longer and costs more. Good news for the successful contractors.

Ingeegoodbee 6:32 pm 29 Jan 08

“There are not enough tax payers in Tharwa to justify paying an extra $5 million so they can have their old bridge restored when a concrete bridge would suffice …”

Absolutely true GregW and don’t get me started on cancer patients who – as a proportion of overall tax payers – don’t even come close to justifying the cost of oncology units in hospitals, and then there’s those bludging kids with leukaemia that don’t even pay tax!

Pandy 6:05 pm 29 Jan 08

Wrong Thumper,

The bridge will be rebuilt, yes rebuilt, incorporting steel elements that will complement the wood-work so that it will look like the old bridge.

I blame this all on Tharwa residents and loud mouth Jeffries, who should retire to the coast.

Mr Evil 5:00 pm 29 Jan 08

It all comes down to doing the job properly in the first place when the bridge was last ‘restored’.

If this had been the case, then we wouldn’t be going through this saga now.

For a city that is supposedly so full of intelligent people, why do we have such fricken morons running the place – both at Legislative Assembly level and ACT PS level?

Thumper 4:55 pm 29 Jan 08

What price heritage?

I guess we should have flattened all the old Sydney buildings as well, what about OPH, Blundell’s school house, Duntroon House (surely a nice new office would be better than maintaining that old thing?)

The list goes on.

Once it’s gone you can never get it back.

Or perhaps the government could have fixed it properly the first time rather than going for the cheapest, nastiest quote.

If so, then again, this mess wouldn’t have arisen.

All in all, badly managed with even worse communication and consultation all for what is clearly an ACT government responsibility.

GregW 4:49 pm 29 Jan 08

But at what point does it become infeasible to continue maintaining the bridge? The cheapest solution doesn’t necessarily involve the lowest initial cost, everyone knows that..

Unfortunately theres an election coming soon and Canberrans tend to be irrational and populist when it comes to bridges, schools, water recycling etc..

Thumper 4:40 pm 29 Jan 08

I should add that, if regular maintenance was kept up to the bridge, just like every other bridge, then it probably wouldn’t have come to this.

Thumper 4:38 pm 29 Jan 08

Oh, what does this from the article say?

Mr Hargreaves told a meeting soon after the bridge was closed that the old bridge was “completely and utterly stuffed”

In other words, he either lied, or had very bad advice.

And I’m not going to get back into the heritage aspects of it all.

hingo 4:34 pm 29 Jan 08

In that case GregW, Stanhope should have dismantled the old bridge before the town had a chance to change their mind. The bridge is a piece of crap and you would have to be a tard to want to preserve it, but living in the ACT, you have to allow for nutjob ideas. If I was him, I would have hired some blokes, gone there in the middle of the night, knocked the thing down, disappear then claim it “broke” the next day.

GregW 4:20 pm 29 Jan 08

Forgive my ignorance, I am not following this debate at all, but… regardless of whether Stanhope did or didn’t make these comments, I agree with them.

There are not enough tax payers in Tharwa to justify paying an extra $5 million so they can have their old bridge restored when a concrete bridge would suffice. Not to mention the irresponsibility for future governments who will have to pay to maintain the aging bridge… Theres also the issue of the inherent vulnerability of the bridge to flooding and its inability to carry heavy loads.

Whats more Stanhope is right to blame the Tharwa community for the time taken to get a new bridge, the concrete bridge could have been completed by September even despite the several months of consultation that has transpired. If the residents had endorsed the new bridge instead of delaying moves to begin construction that timeframe would have been even shorter..

Holden Caulfield 3:51 pm 29 Jan 08

Haha, like the old episode of “Yes Minister” where Humphrey is explaining to Jim how smoothly the new hospital is working and the 800 newly employed staff are completely happy.

There are no patients.

Humphrey declares that having patients would simply mess things up and the hospital would no longer be as effective.

hingo 3:50 pm 29 Jan 08

Mr Stanhope also urged Tharwa residents to “be calm and objective”.

neanderthalsis 3:42 pm 29 Jan 08

Of course Tharwa people are to blame, if they didn’t live there, they would not need to build a bridge.

Government would be so easy if you didn’t have to contend with people who actually expect you to do things beneficial to them and the general populace.

Gungahlin Al 3:32 pm 29 Jan 08

He did come back in the next day’s CT saying he said no such thing. Can’t find a link to that though sorry.

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