The Conder window massacre

johnboy 27 December 2011 50
scratched glass in conder

ACT Policing is investigating property damage to twelve businesses at the Lanyon Marketplace in Conder over the weekend.

Around 9.30am yesterday (Monday, December 26), police attended the McDonalds restaurant at the Lanyon Marketplace and were shown a number of windows that had been ‘tagged’ by scratching the glass.

Police searched the nearby area and found an additional eleven stores had glass windows marked with the same ‘tag’ used at the McDonalds restaurant.

Forty windows were damaged in total, with the estimated damage exceeding $30,000.

Anyone who witnessed any suspicious activity around the Lanyon Marketplace over the weekend is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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Violet68 Violet68 12:40 pm 29 Dec 11

Classified said :

johnboy said :

Classified said :

Obviously we wouldn’t take the children from parents for the occasional misdemeanor, but in cases where parents are consistently criminal and/or neglectful, and kids are demonstrably starting down the same road, removing the kids and putting them in a better environment would be well worth trying. For such kids, they’ll typically turn out criminals anyway, and this way they’ll have some better role models and be better cared for.

And now for the tricky bit… that better environment is?

Not an easy question, nor a cheap solution.

Here’s an idea……It takes a village to raise a child.

http://www.justpeace.org/village.htm

Classified Classified 10:38 am 29 Dec 11

johnboy said :

Classified said :

Obviously we wouldn’t take the children from parents for the occasional misdemeanor, but in cases where parents are consistently criminal and/or neglectful, and kids are demonstrably starting down the same road, removing the kids and putting them in a better environment would be well worth trying. For such kids, they’ll typically turn out criminals anyway, and this way they’ll have some better role models and be better cared for.

And now for the tricky bit… that better environment is?

Not an easy question, nor a cheap solution.

Violet68 Violet68 10:16 am 29 Dec 11

Jethro said :

Violet68 said :

steveu said :

Agree Valleyboy. Take the kids away from their mothers, see if if it gives these kids some perspective as to how bad their lives obviously are, for them to act out on this pointless act of vandalism.

Yes, castrate these useless parents, better still take away their family tax benefits and housing! That will sort them out. This sort of behaviour couldn’t possibly be put down to a combination of societal factors, perhaps one of them being “an us against them” mentality…….

No factor is more influential in a child’s development than their home-life and parents. Not every child born into a bad family will become a criminal and not every child born into a good home will walk the straight and narrow. However, in general, children born into families where the parents are disrespectful law breakers are much more likely to turn out this way themselves. RiotACT favourite Camilla Krutsky is one such example… brought up by criminals, is now a criminal raising a very young child who in all likelihood will grow up to become a criminal. She is a good example of a parent who should have had her child removed from her at birth.

I’m all for removing young children from demonstrably bad parents. We have too much fear in Australia of the negative consequences of removing children from bad homes, but ignore the negative consequences of leaving them there.

Where would you propose we place these children? In inadequate accommodation, grouped together without heating or clean mattresses (as has recently occurred)? Would you place them with carers who do not love them but like the money they bring in? Would you have them shuffled from carer to carer until they don’t know who the hell to trust? The foster care system has also been responsible for raising young people with difficult behaviours.

How dare you publicly name and predict the future of a young child. No wonder some of these kids have attitudes…..when they are damned by people like you before they even have a chance to grow up!

johnboy johnboy 10:14 am 29 Dec 11

Classified said :

Obviously we wouldn’t take the children from parents for the occasional misdemeanor, but in cases where parents are consistently criminal and/or neglectful, and kids are demonstrably starting down the same road, removing the kids and putting them in a better environment would be well worth trying. For such kids, they’ll typically turn out criminals anyway, and this way they’ll have some better role models and be better cared for.

And now for the tricky bit… that better environment is?

Classified Classified 10:10 am 29 Dec 11

Jethro said :

I’m all for removing young children from demonstrably bad parents. We have too much fear in Australia of the negative consequences of removing children from bad homes, but ignore the negative consequences of leaving them there.

Obviously we wouldn’t take the children from parents for the occasional misdemeanor, but in cases where parents are consistently criminal and/or neglectful, and kids are demonstrably starting down the same road, removing the kids and putting them in a better environment would be well worth trying. For such kids, they’ll typically turn out criminals anyway, and this way they’ll have some better role models and be better cared for.

Jethro Jethro 9:26 am 29 Dec 11

Violet68 said :

steveu said :

Agree Valleyboy. Take the kids away from their mothers, see if if it gives these kids some perspective as to how bad their lives obviously are, for them to act out on this pointless act of vandalism.

Yes, castrate these useless parents, better still take away their family tax benefits and housing! That will sort them out. This sort of behaviour couldn’t possibly be put down to a combination of societal factors, perhaps one of them being “an us against them” mentality…….

No factor is more influential in a child’s development than their home-life and parents. Not every child born into a bad family will become a criminal and not every child born into a good home will walk the straight and narrow. However, in general, children born into families where the parents are disrespectful law breakers are much more likely to turn out this way themselves. RiotACT favourite Camilla Krutsky is one such example… brought up by criminals, is now a criminal raising a very young child who in all likelihood will grow up to become a criminal. She is a good example of a parent who should have had her child removed from her at birth.

I’m all for removing young children from demonstrably bad parents. We have too much fear in Australia of the negative consequences of removing children from bad homes, but ignore the negative consequences of leaving them there.

buzz819 buzz819 9:19 am 29 Dec 11

Violet68 said :

steveu said :

Agree Valleyboy. Take the kids away from their mothers, see if if it gives these kids some perspective as to how bad their lives obviously are, for them to act out on this pointless act of vandalism.

Yes, castrate these useless parents, better still take away their family tax benefits and housing! That will sort them out. This sort of behaviour couldn’t possibly be put down to a combination of societal factors, perhaps one of them being “an us against them” mentality…….

No I think it is more of a, I’m young, I’m bored, this doesn’t hurt anyone….

Violet68 Violet68 8:57 am 29 Dec 11

steveu said :

Agree Valleyboy. Take the kids away from their mothers, see if if it gives these kids some perspective as to how bad their lives obviously are, for them to act out on this pointless act of vandalism.

Yes, castrate these useless parents, better still take away their family tax benefits and housing! That will sort them out. This sort of behaviour couldn’t possibly be put down to a combination of societal factors, perhaps one of them being “an us against them” mentality…….

steveu steveu 7:44 am 29 Dec 11

Agree Valleyboy. Take the kids away from their mothers, see if if it gives these kids some perspective as to how bad their lives obviously are, for them to act out on this pointless act of vandalism.

Valleyboy Valleyboy 2:46 pm 28 Dec 11

It gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling to think about how the households that these wastes-of-space infest are probably being subsidised by my taxes and those of the victims. In return for such assistance, what a great service the parents have done society by giving us these punks. Hopefully, Bimberi will beckon in their future soon enough.

Deref Deref 8:14 am 28 Dec 11

Tooks said :

Fliponout said :

only in boganville would this happen…
maybe codor needs a police station … hmmmm

Yes, property damage only occurs in “codor”.

Is codor next to Mordor?

steveu steveu 7:05 am 28 Dec 11

Fliponout said :

only in boganville would this happen…
maybe codor needs a police station … hmmmm

Well given the number of cop cars I see there at a particular hour in the AM…presumably serving warrants…You could be onto something there. May save on petrol. I mean there is enough demand to puit a Centrelink CSC there, so why not a cop shop?

Tooks Tooks 2:57 am 28 Dec 11

Fliponout said :

only in boganville would this happen…
maybe codor needs a police station … hmmmm

Yes, property damage only occurs in “codor”.

dph dph 12:55 am 28 Dec 11

Fliponout said :

only in boganville would this happen…
maybe codor needs a police station … hmmmm

No, it didn’t happen in Gungahlin. It happened in Conder.

Fliponout Fliponout 11:27 pm 27 Dec 11

only in boganville would this happen…
maybe codor needs a police station … hmmmm

wildturkeycanoe wildturkeycanoe 8:11 pm 27 Dec 11

Surely Maccas Conder has security cameras?

p1 p1 11:28 am 27 Dec 11

gentoopenguin said :

Sounds like some little punks got stanley knives from Santa this year…. let’s hope they get caught.

I was thinking a rock. Would take a damn long time with a Stanley knife. Haven’t these kids just learned to smash sh!t?

Or maybe the glazing business is a little slow right now?

matt31221 matt31221 11:25 am 27 Dec 11

johnboy said :

A lot more work than your average vandal would put in methinks.

Heck yeah, that would take a bucket load of elbow grease.

johnboy johnboy 11:09 am 27 Dec 11

A lot more work than your average vandal would put in methinks.

gentoopenguin gentoopenguin 10:47 am 27 Dec 11

Sounds like some little punks got stanley knives from Santa this year…. let’s hope they get caught.

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