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The drunken P-Platers of Belconnen

By johnboy - 23 June 2011 9

Two men on provisional licence holders will be summonsed to court after police caught them drink driving in separate incidents in Belconnen overnight.

Around 11.20pm last night (Wednesday, June 22), police attended a licensed premises in Cohen Street, Belconnen, following reports of three men refusing to leave. Upon arrival, police saw a Holden utility leaving the car park with three men inside. Police attempted to stop the vehicle and commenced a short pursuit through the Belconnen town centre.

The vehicle stopped at the intersection of Cameron Avenue and Chandler Street, where the 25-year-old male driver from Aranda ran from the vehicle. He was apprehended a short distance away from the car and underwent a roadside screening test which returned a positive result.

The man was taken back to Belconnen Police Station where he recorded an alcohol content of 0.154. His licence was immediately suspended as he was restricted to a limit of 0.00.

All three men were issued with Criminal Infringement Notices for failing to leave a licensed premises when directed, a fine of $440 each.

In a separate incident around 1.40am today (Thursday, June 23), a Belconnen patrol intercepted a Holden Astra on Eastern Valley Way in Bruce after the driver allegedly failed to stop at a red light. The 22-year-old man from Sydney returned a positive roadside screening test,and was taken to Belconnen Police Station for a breath analysis.

The man was found to have an alcohol content of 0.142. He was also restricted to a limit of 0.00. His licence was immediately suspended.

Both drivers will be summonsed to face the ACT Magistrates Court at a later date.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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The drunken P-Platers of Belconnen
PM 12:24 pm 24 Jun 11

Breathalisers – what if the algorythm is out? If someone claims they tested themselves before they left a venue and is done for being a bit over, who is to blame?

People should know how much they can drink to stay under – one standard drink an hour is usually acceptable (most men and have an extra one in the first hour). If you’re going to go out and get pissed, leave the car at home. End of story.

Henry82 12:06 pm 24 Jun 11

Boring_Name said :

, though it seems to stop at slapping up a few posters in the toilets and installing a breathalyser at the door..

My old local has a breathalyser, drunks used it to break their own PBs, so they put a charge on it. Now i’m yet to see anyone use it, driver or not. Same with free soft-drink for designated drivers, too many people used it, so they removed the system. Basically, they’re not going to change unless they’re forced to.

Boring_Name 10:15 am 24 Jun 11

Walker said :

What are bar staff rights and are they well enough trained to be able to stop anyone who looks like they’re going to do something stupid? I’ve seen bar staff hesitate before, confronted with some fast talkers staggering out keys in hand.

I’ve seen bouncers/door-people at some clubs just stand there while blotto patrons amble straight out the door and hop into their cars. I’ve also seen a bouncer very seriously telling some guy that if he sees his car gone, he will at the very least tear up his membership, though that was only once. It does seems more towards the former.

What is the legal stance towards venues in this regard? Nothing I assume. I’m guessing it’s pretty tricky anyway, as those who want to drive will find a way to avoid the scrutiny of a venue’s staff. Clubs at least are taking some initiative, though it seems to stop at slapping up a few posters in the toilets and installing a breathalyser at the door.

I think it’s misguided, but the drink driving laws in Japan extend to the venue where the alcohol was served, often with far greater punishment than those of the actual criminal. It has forced bars to be very careful about the serving of alcohol, even resorting to have punters sign a waver stating that they are either the designated driver, or they will not be driving home. Misguided, yes, but the rate of drink driving offenses has been dropping since it’s inception.

PM 9:59 am 24 Jun 11

Walker said :

What are bar staff rights and are they well enough trained to be able to stop anyone who looks like they’re going to do something stupid? I’ve seen bar staff hesitate before, confronted with some fast talkers staggering out keys in hand.

No right to forceably take keys off someone. If you’re a local, your bar staff might be able to get away with it but that’s generally because locals and bar staff are usually on good terms personally.

Bar staff can call police, but what are they going to say? “Some bloke whose name I don’t know is likely to drive away in a car, the details of which I don’t know either.” It’s tough.

Basically, it should be up to patrons to manage how much they drink and how they behave thereafter.

Walker 9:38 pm 23 Jun 11

Foresight is not a big thing these days, not just P platers but quite a few others who should know better. Then again some people don’t look like they cared, even before they hit the drink.

What are bar staff rights and are they well enough trained to be able to stop anyone who looks like they’re going to do something stupid? I’ve seen bar staff hesitate before, confronted with some fast talkers staggering out keys in hand.

LSWCHP 9:03 pm 23 Jun 11

Stupidity is its own reward. The sad thing is that The Frots very sensible suggestions won’t be followed, and these arsehats will almost certainly be threatening all our lives on the road again within a few days.

My wife and I went to a dinner party on Saturday night, and for once she was the designated driver. Our little personal breathalyser told me that I was at 0.12 when we left, which just confirmed my own impression that I was in no state to drive.

These people (and particularly the multiple recidivists) who are driving at 0.15 should be charged with something like attempted murder, and they should be made to do some very hard time.

Watson 2:29 pm 23 Jun 11

Cheap said :

Best way to avoid detection when you’re driving drunk is to run red lights…

Or to start a drunken fight at the pub and then get in the car whilst the police are watching.

Cheap 2:10 pm 23 Jun 11

Best way to avoid detection when you’re driving drunk is to run red lights…

The Frots 1:55 pm 23 Jun 11

Suspend their licences for 5 years. Second offence – suspend it for 15 years. Third offence – cancel it for life + jail time.

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