The effects of the Alcopops tax (Family Planning in Gungahlin)

Jonathon Reynolds 24 August 2008 31

The effects of the Alcopops tax (Family Planning in Gungahlin)Individuals may prefer to consume “Alcopops” because it offers them convenience, the ability to accurately control their alcohol intake, and provides a level of safety from the dangers of drink spiking.

Yet the Federal government chooses to penalize these drinkers and possibly drive them to consume bottle based spirits and mixers where they do not potentially have the same control and safety.

Obviously wanting to appear a good corporate citizen and recognising the potential sales opportunity here in “The Projects” (A rather apt name a bemused colleague uses to describe the planning and social experimentation the local government undertakes in Gungahlin), it appears that the local Woolies is taking the knock on (or should that be the “knock up”) effects of the Alcopops tax seriously.

Woolies now sensibly encourages an impulse purchase of a packet of prophylactics to go with your bulk bottle of spirits and soft drink mixer.


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jakez jakez 10:07 am 26 Aug 08

josh said :

> Yet the Federal government chooses to penalize these drinkers

oh for f***’s sake. if you’re going to make a ridiculous statement, at least spell it right. in any case, it’s not penalising anyone.. you’ll note people still have the choice, and can avoid this “penalty” by simply not purchasing the product.

want to avoid the “penalty”? then stop drinking. or, to quote a horde, “put up or shut up”.

A penalty is still a penalty even if one can avoid it. Perhaps your should not go around admonishing people for making ridiculous statements, when your own contains such a blatant internal contradiction.

p1 p1 9:50 am 26 Aug 08

Well, it looks like France is no longer a good example of a better option. Although comparing any country to the US is never a good idea there, 13 year olds are too busy trying not to have a “cap busted in their ass” by a “gangsta with a glock”, and don’t have time to drink, especially since smoking crack takes up so much of their time…

Vincent Vega Vincent Vega 9:26 pm 25 Aug 08

And in regard to drinking in France

The French drink one-and-a-half times more per capita than Americans and their death rate from liver cirrhosis is more than one-and-a-half times greater than that in the United States. According to WHO, France has the sixth highest adult per capita alcohol consumption in the world. Alcohol may be involved in nearly half of the deaths from road accidents, half of all homicides, and one-quarter of suicides, according to the French equivalent of the U.S. Institutes of Health.

French youth, who can legally drink at age 16, prefer beer and distilled spirits to wine and have increased their con­sumption fivefold since 1996, in part because 12- to 14-year-olds are drinking and binge drinking. This has led to a new government “War Against Drugs” that includes alcohol.

http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_policy/french_drinking.htm

Vincent Vega Vincent Vega 9:19 pm 25 Aug 08

From the Age 29/7/08

According to figures from the Australian Tax Office and Customs released by the Government yesterday, there had been a 23% decline in overall spirits drinking between April and June, with 54% fewer sales in alcopops and only a 7% increase in hard spirits sales.

Seems to be to be working.

Davo111 Davo111 7:14 pm 25 Aug 08

Granny said :

Yes, sometimes I actually do go out to dinner and have three glasses of wine….

naughty!

Granny Granny 1:47 pm 25 Aug 08

At All Bar Nun for Norvan’s SIM challenge I was the one drinking coffee. So imagine my shock when I discovered that I have a binge drinking problem!

Yes, sometimes I actually do go out to dinner and have three glasses of wine….

peterh peterh 12:46 pm 25 Aug 08

johnboy said :

I’m pretty sure Jesus not only turned water into wine to keep a party going (no doubt contributing to binge drinking in 1st century palestine), but while doing so was dodging excise.

beats the hell out of BYO, though.

p1 p1 12:40 pm 25 Aug 08

Yeah, but that was wine not Alcopops. And I’m sure that the 13 year old that was getting married wasn’t involved in the drinking….

johnboy johnboy 12:29 pm 25 Aug 08

I’m pretty sure Jesus not only turned water into wine to keep a party going (no doubt contributing to binge drinking in 1st century palestine), but while doing so was dodging excise.

p1 p1 12:17 pm 25 Aug 08

After much consideration, Hell is almost certainly a internet forum….

peterh peterh 11:38 am 25 Aug 08

fnaah said :

p1, I thought it was funny. And there’s a fair bit of truth in the argument.

Aussiegal, your threats of damnation don’t really scare people who don’t believe in hell, but feel free to cast me down with Beelzebub and all his little wizards while you’re at it. If hell exists, we’ll be down there fornicating and gambling and drinking and playing loud music and blaspheming for all eternity while you try not to think about the fun you should have had on earth while you had a chance.

you seem to think that hell is warm?

canberra must be hell in summer.

or hell in winter.

always thought that hell is other people….

peterh peterh 11:36 am 25 Aug 08

jakez said :

peterh said :

jakez said :

peterh said :

Thumper said :

want to stop underage drinking? up the legal age to 21. then the mates who are 18 can’t buy for their younger mates. and by the time they are 21, they can face tougher penalties for providing to minors.

I don’t think that has really worked in the USA.

yeah, but at 21, most kids don’t give a rats about their younger mates.

Not true at all. The supply of delicious illegal alcohol would flow steady and strong into the mouths of our younger citizens.

I have seen the kids receive alcohol from people of the tender age of 40, and have also seen the police deal with this particular supply extremely definitively. (used to work at woolies in belco mall, on a checkout and in liquor)

my parents raised me with an appreciation of alcohol, and i choose not to drink. my mates and i used to drink, but I guess i grew out of the need. I would prefer to do the same with smokes, but it hasn’t happened yet.

education in the family home has to be enforced by considerate parents, otherwise the education will lead to other behaviours that parents don’t want to encourage – binge drinking is mostly about testing your limits. and i did, over the years.

fnaah fnaah 11:27 am 25 Aug 08

p1, I thought it was funny. And there’s a fair bit of truth in the argument.

Aussiegal, your threats of damnation don’t really scare people who don’t believe in hell, but feel free to cast me down with Beelzebub and all his little wizards while you’re at it. If hell exists, we’ll be down there fornicating and gambling and drinking and playing loud music and blaspheming for all eternity while you try not to think about the fun you should have had on earth while you had a chance.

p1 p1 11:27 am 25 Aug 08

I heard that France doesn’t have nearly as much of a youth alcohol problem as we and other countries do. I don’t have the details unfortunately.

That is what I have heard also, however broad scale cultural change isn’t something you just “implement” during a term in governmment.

jakez jakez 11:08 am 25 Aug 08

p1 said :

Want to see underage drinking go down? Totally change the culture of drinking in the country, and increase the education of children within the family structure.

I heard that France doesn’t have nearly as much of a youth alcohol problem as we and other countries do. I don’t have the details unfortunately.

It would be interesting to examine what happens in places such as France (where children drink wine with their parents at dinner), and Ireland (where I don’t think there is a drinking age, or if their is it is quite low).

jakez jakez 11:05 am 25 Aug 08

peterh said :

jakez said :

peterh said :

Thumper said :

want to stop underage drinking? up the legal age to 21. then the mates who are 18 can’t buy for their younger mates. and by the time they are 21, they can face tougher penalties for providing to minors.

I don’t think that has really worked in the USA.

yeah, but at 21, most kids don’t give a rats about their younger mates.

Not true at all. The supply of delicious illegal alcohol would flow steady and strong into the mouths of our younger citizens.

p1 p1 10:44 am 25 Aug 08

Want to see underage drinking go down? Totally change the culture of drinking in the country, and increase the education of children within the family structure.

mmm, sounds simple, doesn’t it.

oh, and at AussieGal83

That comment may not have been very funny, but it was intended as a joke. I assume that your belief in Jebus is so secure that you need to defend any slander against his minions on earth venemantly?

peterh peterh 10:27 am 25 Aug 08

jakez said :

peterh said :

Thumper said :

want to stop underage drinking? up the legal age to 21. then the mates who are 18 can’t buy for their younger mates. and by the time they are 21, they can face tougher penalties for providing to minors.

I don’t think that has really worked in the USA.

yeah, but at 21, most kids don’t give a rats about their younger mates.

jakez jakez 10:14 am 25 Aug 08

peterh said :

Thumper said :

want to stop underage drinking? up the legal age to 21. then the mates who are 18 can’t buy for their younger mates. and by the time they are 21, they can face tougher penalties for providing to minors.

I don’t think that has really worked in the USA.

peterh peterh 9:55 am 25 Aug 08

Thumper said :

I was under the impression that alchohol sales had not gone down and that harder drinks had increased proportionally to the decrease in alcopops.

However, if anyone has an independent source to prove otherwise i’ll be happy to agree.

I was looking at the info for retail sales the other day, as my super is interlinked with the retail trade.

Spirit sales have increased, alco-pops are down, no mention about complementary sales of frangers.

the problem is that the retail stats are based on select areas of the nation. Aboriginal communities are excluded from the figures, as are less influential suburbs.

want to stop underage drinking? up the legal age to 21. then the mates who are 18 can’t buy for their younger mates. and by the time they are 21, they can face tougher penalties for providing to minors.

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