15 October 2024

'The electorate is in a grumbly mood': Experts have their say on the ACT election outcome

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Shane Rattenbury, Elizabeth Lee, Thomas Emerson and Andrew Barr.

Shane Rattenbury, Elizabeth Lee, Thomas Emerson and Andrew Barr. Photo: Michelle Kroll.

There have been no serious opinion polls on the outcome of the ACT election and, unusually, online betting agencies don’t even have a market for it.

This makes predicting who might win difficult, even though the same side of politics has been in government since 2001.

But that didn’t stop us from reaching out to experts and asking them to look into their crystal ball.

‘Best chance’ for Liberals in years

University of Canberra political scientist Dr Michael De Percy says any election predictions are just “guesses” without polling, but feels the Canberra Liberals could have their “best chance in 23 years” of being able to form a government, perhaps with the support of independents.

“The change of leadership for the Canberra Liberals to a moderate Elizabeth Lee makes it more possible, if not probable, to have a good showing in this election,” he said.

“We have two female leaders of the Liberals, which is not the case for Labor or the Greens, that may be important for some.

“Labor and Greens have been in power for some time, but people are not really happy. We have a cost-of-living crisis.

“If people are looking for change, there’s a real alternative there that wasn’t there at previous elections. The conservative nature of the Liberal leadership previously just wasn’t popular for an ACT electorate.

“If there were any chance of the Canberra Liberals to get up, it would be now.”

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Massive swing needed for Labor to lose seats

Veteran Australian National University political commentator Professor John Warhurst agrees the Liberals have a better chance than they’ve had in the past but wouldn’t bet on a change.

“It’s all speculation [without polls], I don’t rule out a Liberal victory, but the most likely outcome is the government will be returned. They might lose some skin though,” he said.

“The electorate is in a grumbly mood. There may be a lot of Labor voters who are considering change. Whether they’ll make the jump and whether they’ll be enough of them to make a difference remains to be seen.”

At present, Labor holds 10 seats in the 25-seat Legislative Assembly and forms government with the Greens, who hold six seats. The Canberra Liberals in opposition hold the remaining nine seats.

ABC election guru Antony Green has written on his blog that it would take a “serious collapse” in Labor’s support for it to lose seats, given their consistent support across Canberra and given the nature of ACT’s electoral system.

Labor got 38 per cent of the vote Canberra-wide in 2020 and currently has two members elected in each of the five electorates. A party generally gets two members elected with between 28 and 40 per cent of the vote. Hence, Labor’s vote could fall by five or six per cent without the party losing any seats.

“I think what Antony Green says makes sense. If Labor wins 10 seats, if you add the likelihood the Greens will win at least three, then that’s the Labor-Greens majority again,” Professor Warhurst said.

Greens are the most vulnerable party

Both Professor Warhurst and Dr De Percy agree that the Greens may be the most vulnerable party in this election, given that they surged in 2020 and now face even more competition from a host of left-leaning independents.

“Of the three major parties, a lot is hanging on their future. Most people suggest that they’re vulnerable down south, perhaps in Brindabella, as is their second seat in Kurrajong,” Professor Warhurst said.

“I think going backwards by [just] one seat would be a terrific result for the Greens given they did surge at the last election.”

Dr De Percy said: “I’d see the Greens as the most vulnerable at this election. There’s a lot of public servants who would have been traditional Labor voters who vote for the Greens as a way to keep voters in check … but with the federal Greens being so radical, particularly in regards to national security and other issues … people might see them as having shown their true colours and being detrimental to Labor.”

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Uphill battle for independents

The University of Canberra lecturer doesn’t see a 2022 federal election-style ‘Teal wave’ happening at this Saturday’s poll either.

“There’s been a lot of speculation about independents, but I’m not convinced. It’s possible that someone well-known like Fiona Carrick [in Murrumbidgee] might get up… but I just don’t think they are going to have the cut through … if you look at the corflutes, I’m hardly seeing any independents. Their presence is shallow,” Dr De Percy said.

Professor Warhurst says the independents are facing a “hard slog”.

“It’s hard because of the electoral system and there’s no Scott Morrison or Zed Seselja to pitch against,” he said.

But at the end of the day, both experts wanted it on the record that it’s all just speculation in the absence of good data.

“I tend to follow what [veteran political commentator] Gerard Henderson says: ‘You shouldn’t make predictions, particularly about the future’,” Dr De Percy said.

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Bright Spark8:39 am 17 Oct 24

The mismanagement from the Labor/Greens government will decide this election. ACT voters are sick of the costly mistakes made by this government, pushing us ever deeper into debt, and undermining the credibility of our jurisdiction. The shocking impact on our awesome VET training institution & teachers at CIT is just one example.

The error-ridden modelling the Labor/Greens government presented in support of 100% electrification across the ACT is just one stark reminder of the reason they should be voted out – cost blow-out after cost blow-out that are using hard earned voter $$$ to prop up. Not toention the succession of scandals hitting the jeadlines. No wonder we’re in a cost of living crisis.

Roll on a new government – you’ve got a lot of work to do to clean up the last 23 years of mismanagement!

Light rail will decide this election. ACT residents want it finished but the Libs would scrap it.

I think the question here is whether or not Canberrans are capable yet of learning from the consequences of their actions, or whether they see the responsibility for the decline in the standard of living as resting wholly on something other than themselves.

If, like adults, they are capable of learning this, then the current government won’t get re-elected. But if, like children, they still haven’t learned a thing, then it’ll be another stint in government for those least deserving – the question then turning to how much more rubbish the children are willing swallow before they start to learn their lesson

HiddenDragon9:22 pm 15 Oct 24

Since 1998, the closest that the Liberals have come to winning was in 2012, when Labor was selling a new taxation policy which had winners and losers (as is now very apparent) and was burdened by disaffection with the federal Labor government.

On the other hand, ACT Labor in 2012 had “only” been in power for 11 years and had a new leader who did not provoke the visceral reactions that their current leader does.

Aside from an “it’s time” factor after 23 years, many more Canberra households will now be feeling serious financial pressure than at any previous ACT election.

An “it’s time” factor could, of course, help independents, regardless of any particular policies they have proposed, but cost of living concerns is the best hope for the Liberals given that their policies are probably best targeted at people whose votes might be up for grabs this time.

The nature and extent of the “grumbliness” of the ACT electorate could produce some surprises on Saturday night.

Interesting site to help select candidates that most closely align with your views:

https://www.helpmevote.au/

Time for Barr and Rattenbury to jump in their EVs, hitch up a caravan and take off.

There’s pretty much no chance of the ALP dropping below 10 seats and they are a good chance to pick up one of the Greens seats.

The Libs have very little chance of winning and it would only be possible if a few independents won and then decided to support them which is less than certain.

The 5×5 design of the electorate (which the major parties conveniently implemented) ensures that a high proportion of seats aren’t even really in play.

The ALP will almost certainly be back in power, although their overall vote may be slightly diminished in a few of the electorates.

Douglas Hynd1:17 pm 15 Oct 24

If people want a more proportional system that gives independents & minor parties a chance at representation then we need to shift to 7 member electorates. this would provide a broader pool of talent & greater capacity to undertake accountability through the committee system. On the likely outcome this time I agree with John Warhurst. I should note that the Liberals may be at risk of losing a seat in Ginninderra. On the Greens at a national level – Dr de Percy’s view of them as radical says more about his political measuring stick than anything else – the true radicals in Australian politics are largely on the right of the political specturm.

Riotact, why has no opinion polling been released this election? Prior to the 2020 election, there was polling from The Australia Institute on 9 Aug and from ClubsACT on 29 Sep.

Our Labor Greens government have failed Canberra with undelivered infrastructure and rapidly rising government debt.

But the design of the ACT electorates and 5 member system, makes it nigh on impossible for Liberal or Independents to gain the balance of power ahead of the current ACT government.

I plan for the first ever time, not to put a number against a Labor or Green candidate. They need a reset in opposition and a return to common sense government for the ACT not driven by personal ideology.

“…now face even more competition from a host of left-leaning independents.”
Then, they are not truly independent

David Pollard - Independent for Yerrabi2:12 pm 15 Oct 24

Independents are allowed to have a leaning.

To me, the important thing is that there is no party line instructing me on how to vote, think, or speak.

That might be so, but do you really think that lefties, supposing the Libs win, will vote for their legislation, even if it benefits the ACT?
If independents are far left leaning, they’re just proxies for Labor, or worse – the Greens. The same goes for far right blindingly voting along those lines, regardless of bad legislation

It is almost like you have no idea what the definition of independent is.

It isn’t “can not have a policy position, or as you call it ‘leanings’.

Idiotic comment.

IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE! Vote Barr and Rattenbury OUT

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