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The future arrives at 3pm

By johnboy 7 September 2010 80

We hear the press conference has been set for 3pm when we find out which major party’s been able to lube themselves up enough to offer a pleasing sensation to the rural independents.

As Canberra’s public servants hold their breath we’ll let you know when it comes through.

UPDATE: 13:37 Bob Katter announces for the Liberals. (other independents not yet announced, Oakeshott scheduled for 3pm)

Further Update: 15:07 Tony Windsor for Labor.

And the winner is: Oakeshott backs, well he goes on and on, but he’s talking about Government so let’s call it for Gillard at 15:27.

15:31 It’s official Gillard to remain PM.

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Thoroughly Smashed 2:52 pm 17 Sep 10

fragge said :

If labour [sic] had won the election with a majority in the two party such as in 2007 I may not have been to [sic] excited however would have accepted that as a fair democratic process.

Just to keep you updated on this, it appears they did.

Uhhh, the article itself contradicts you.

I still haven’t decided whether you’re dishonest or just don’t have the attention span to read the whole article. It doesn’t really matter any more though.

exfed2 said :

lol

Ell Oh Ell to you too.

exfed2 said :

I suppose the people should be used to consistent inaccurate statements after the last 3 years.

Just to keep those of you living on another planet updated: http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

Skidbladnir 7:18 pm 14 Sep 10

Skidbladnir said :

Have a copy posted to your (or anybody’s) doorstep for the bargain price of only 58 cents.

Followup:
The $0.58 per copy price is for institutions or for groups of people with a need for bulk batches, like schools or legal firms.
The Parliamentary Education Office will actually provide copies to individuals on request for free, and their staff are very friendly.

The pocket edition comes with notes on Amendments, and a plain english Overview of each Section from the Australian Government Solicitor.
Now you have no excuse to not possess your own copy, and if you want to argue about it you have no excuse for not having read it.

PS; They make handy and cheap souvenirs for a certain kind of tourist.

exfed2 1:19 pm 10 Sep 10

Holden Caulfield said :

exfed2 said :

…If you cannot see that 1 man deciding the future of our government whether he was offered a ministry or not then more fool you…

Newsflash, you have obviously missed it, but there were five men that decided the future of our government (well, by your measurement anyway). Four of them chose the ALP, just one supported the Coalition.

Newsflash http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/election2010/7959238/joyce-says-oakeshott-not-being-upfront

Whose VOTE secured labour to power

fgzk 3:10 pm 09 Sep 10

When do we see the donkey elected.

chewy14 2:25 pm 09 Sep 10

Gungahlin Al said :

Meanwhile in the Senate, it seems that counted has led to Gary Humphries dropping below a full quota. This means that the 1500-odd people who voted Democrats above the line may have put Humphries back into the senate, due to Darren Churchill’s distorted view of Democrats history and his personal hatred of the Greens. There was a chance to change the entire government direction immediately there – blown by effectively a couple of people struggling to convince people the party isn’t just a corpse on life support.

Has that count been updated on the AEC website?
I’m one of those 1500 who voted above the line Democrats. If they had preferenced the Greens I definitely would have voted below the line.
This whole election was a joke. Giant Douche Vs Turd Sandwich.

Pommy bastard 1:25 pm 09 Sep 10

The title of this thread made me howl when I first heard it, there was once a famous advert campaign in the UK:

Orange is the brand used by France Télécom for its mobile network operator and Internet service provider subsidiaries. It is the fifth largest telecom operator in the world,

advertising agency WCRS created the Orange slogan

“The Future’s bright, the Future’s Orange”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(telecommunications)

“The Future’s bright, the Future’s Orange”, how apt is that !!

🙂

exfed2 1:14 pm 09 Sep 10

Jim Jones said :

exfed2 said :

lol, I suppose the people should be used to consistent inaccurate statements after the last 3 years.

Yeah, just like we should only believe something Tony says if it’s written down.

… hang on … I seem to be missing $11 Billion Dollars … where could I possibly have put it? Maybe I lost it, along with my economic credibility.

Please Jim you cannot possibly go down that line! If you ran a business and left me in charge with 20k in the bank whilst you went overseas and upon your return I had squandered your 20 and taken out a loan for another 40 what would you do with me? 🙂

Oh but hang on they ‘did get us through the global financial crisis…….’ Like to see what they would do if there was another GFC with the current debt they have gotten us into

Holden Caulfield 12:46 pm 09 Sep 10

Gungahlin Al said :

Meanwhile in the Senate, it seems that counted has led to Gary Humphries dropping below a full quota. This means that the 1500-odd people who voted Democrats above the line may have put Humphries back into the senate, due to Darren Churchill’s distorted view of Democrats history and his personal hatred of the Greens. There was a chance to change the entire government direction immediately there

Not sure if I missed it, but I’m surprised the Greens didn’t push that angle very hard during the campaign.

Woody Mann-Caruso 12:41 pm 09 Sep 10

Maybe I lost it, along with my economic credibility.

Jim, Jim, Jim. You need to understand that there are two realities. They’re both equally valid, equally real. Those numbers weren’t wrong. It was just a difference of opinion, a matter of perspective.

$11b worth of perspective.

Jim Jones 11:33 am 09 Sep 10

exfed2 said :

lol, I suppose the people should be used to consistent inaccurate statements after the last 3 years.

Yeah, just like we should only believe something Tony says if it’s written down.

… hang on … I seem to be missing $11 Billion Dollars … where could I possibly have put it? Maybe I lost it, along with my economic credibility.

exfed2 10:25 am 09 Sep 10

fragge said :

If labour [sic] had won the election with a majority in the two party such as in 2007 I may not have been to [sic] excited however would have accepted that as a fair democratic process.

Just to keep you updated on this, it appears they did.

Uhhh, the article itself contradicts you. They appear to be projecting future declaration votes based on 8 seats. Money quote:

The overall results of the count so far can be found at the AEC here. Note the current two party preferred figures of 49.99 to Labor and 50.01 to Coalition.

lol, I suppose the people should be used to consistent inaccurate statements after the last 3 years.

Gungahlin Al 9:20 am 09 Sep 10

Meanwhile in the Senate, it seems that counted has led to Gary Humphries dropping below a full quota. This means that the 1500-odd people who voted Democrats above the line may have put Humphries back into the senate, due to Darren Churchill’s distorted view of Democrats history and his personal hatred of the Greens. There was a chance to change the entire government direction immediately there – blown by effectively a couple of people struggling to convince people the party isn’t just a corpse on life support.

fragge 9:13 am 09 Sep 10

If labour [sic] had won the election with a majority in the two party such as in 2007 I may not have been to [sic] excited however would have accepted that as a fair democratic process.

Just to keep you updated on this, it appears they did.

Uhhh, the article itself contradicts you. They appear to be projecting future declaration votes based on 8 seats. Money quote:

The overall results of the count so far can be found at the AEC here. Note the current two party preferred figures of 49.99 to Labor and 50.01 to Coalition.

Not that it matters, we’re now stuck with labor until the next by-election. Hope they don’t get a chance to implement multiple 10-year plans before that time, I love that impossible-to-fail tactic. ‘Oh we’ll give the people out in regional Australia some money, but its going to be meshed out over 10 years’. I can see the independents grovelling for more handouts in 2 years from now with labor’s response – ‘oh, but we promised you 10bn!’. Our budget is what, 350bn (roughly) running at a deficit of around 20bn? Hope with their cuts to gambling revenue for state government and increased taxation of luxury and recreation items (fast cars, tobacco, alcohol) can account for these ridiculous promises. Where’s my nephew’s laptop? Still waiting. Not that he needed nor wanted it in the first place. Wonder what timeframe they’ll set for this NBN, 10 or 20 years? Guaranteed it will be set for a time when they’re out of power and no longer ‘responsible’.

Holden Caulfield 11:30 pm 08 Sep 10

exfed2 said :

…If you cannot see that 1 man deciding the future of our government whether he was offered a ministry or not then more fool you…

Newsflash, you have obviously missed it, but there were five men that decided the future of our government (well, by your measurement anyway). Four of them chose the ALP, just one supported the Coalition.

Hells_Bells74 10:22 pm 08 Sep 10

I prefer your RA Vet. one too, Gungahlin Al.

I went away and applied my brain and numbers I’d heard and oh now I get it (I hope), they needed 76 seats to form majority. Labor had 72, Liberal 70, 3 Independents go Labor’s way (1 to the coalition) and add 1 Green to the mix to make 76.

Sometimes I wish I’d never registered to vote!

Thoroughly Smashed 8:20 pm 08 Sep 10

Gungahlin Al said :

Dead right. They never want anyone to remember that the Coalition is – you know – a coalition. And they never want anyone to remember how sucky their primary votes are, or that this means 12 to 20% of people only gave them a preference because the electoral law forces them to. Which is why both old parties won’t support OPTIONAL preferential voting.

The best bit was Tony claiming, as meaningless as any other metric either side has come up with, to have won the most seats and also claiming that Labor and Greens had formed a coalition. Which one do you want Tony? You can only choose one.

phil m 6:01 pm 08 Sep 10
Gungahlin Al 4:24 pm 08 Sep 10

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Get the point, I am a liberal supporter as there are many others, just like there are many labour supporters.

Pity for you there are many, many more of the latter than there are of the former.

Party / primary votes / percent of primary votes
Labor / 4,694,191 / 38.0
Liberal / 3,761,275 / 30.4

But surely the 5.4% swing against Labor means it lost its mandate? Except that the Libs only picked up 1.5% of that swing, with the Greens – the mortal enemies of the conservatives – picking up the other 4%, and independents picking up the scraps. And who do we have in government now? Why, it’s Labor, and the Greens (you know – the hippy fringe lunatics who almost outpolled your precious LNP and Nat toadies combined), and a couple of independents.

I love how when the Libs can only form government through a coalition with banjo-plucking uncle-f*ckers it’s manifest destiny, but when Labour does it with a scant handful of hangers-on it’s electoral fraud.

PS – ha ha!

Aw crap. Here I am agreeing again with Woody. This has to stop.

Dead right. They never want anyone to remember that the Coalition is – you know – a coalition. And they never want anyone to remember how sucky their primary votes are, or that this means 12 to 20% of people only gave them a preference because the electoral law forces them to. Which is why both old parties won’t support OPTIONAL preferential voting.

“banjo-plucking…etc” LOL!

(PS: I’m still hating this Agitator rating. Much preferred “RA Veteran”.)

Hells_Bells74 2:22 pm 08 Sep 10

I’m so confused! I might go throw myself in front of a train…

Postalgeek 2:03 pm 08 Sep 10

Pommy bastard said :

Jim Jones said :

braddonboy said :

Unfortunately, none of us got to vote for who really runs the country – big media, big mining, big finance.

reptoids

David Ike told me that too..

Mind you, I’d prefer Reptoids to a Welsh Ranga

🙂

I think you’ll find that when Kevin stepped out of the room, a reptoid jumped Gillard and stole her skin. Hence the rude shock when he stepped back in.

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