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The Gestapo get heavy even before their fortress is complete

johnboy 16 November 2010 38

The Sydney Morning Herald has a worrying story on illegal over-reach by the security surrounding the new ASIO building in Campbell.

STUDENTS filming near the controversial new headquarters of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation prompted a late-night police check.

Three media students who were filming a nearby tourist site in Canberra, Blundell’s Cottage, were challenged by two men who appeared to be from the construction site and told that filming was not permitted in the area.

The men took the details of one of the students’ vehicles, and about 11 that night two uniformed Australian Federal Police officers called at his home to check his bona fides.

As long as you’re not on the site it is completely within your rights to photograph the construction.

I think more people need to get down there and do so to make a point.


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Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 11:53 am 19 Nov 10

I went there yesterday in the mid arvo, wandered across from the Parks/gardens via the road that leads to old mates cottage. Found myself by the perimeter fence and just ambled along, making it quite clear I was checking out what was happening in the site.

Eventually, made my way up to the corner where the entrance is. One contractor in hard hat sitting in the shade holding onto the ‘piece of string’ that acted as a gate. I observed for a few minutes, watched some workers leave via the adjacent demountable, saw a bit of what they have inside to greet visitors, moved a few yards further on then resumed my surveillance and then got bored and left.

No-one gave a damn about me and I doubt it would have been any different if I’d had a camera, but that test is next week!

PBO PBO 11:45 am 19 Nov 10

olfella said :

creative_canberran said :

Actually, they were on Commonwealth Land which has strict restrictions on filming whether or nor for commercial use.
Furthermore, the law also places restrictions on the filming of private property.

The construction phase is likely the most sensitive for a secure building. It’s when a lot of the hidden security like countermeasures for electronic monitoring is fitted. The new MI6 building had very strict secrecy, with materials ordered under aliases and the building itself called something different until complete.

Basically, tell the kiddies to move along. What’s wrong with that?

So private security ‘guards’ have the right to move people on do they?? I’ll be buggered, I never knew that.

It is called the Enclosed/Inclosed land act. So yes they do have the right.

UrbanAdventure.org UrbanAdventure.org 10:59 am 19 Nov 10

JC said :

I think if you were to read the article in the Canberra Crimes the reason why the police were called might become a little bit understandable. It had little to do with the filming but more to do with where they were, what they were wearing and what, other than filming they may have been up to.

Linky?

olfella olfella 10:42 pm 17 Nov 10

creative_canberran said :

Actually, they were on Commonwealth Land which has strict restrictions on filming whether or nor for commercial use.
Furthermore, the law also places restrictions on the filming of private property.

The construction phase is likely the most sensitive for a secure building. It’s when a lot of the hidden security like countermeasures for electronic monitoring is fitted. The new MI6 building had very strict secrecy, with materials ordered under aliases and the building itself called something different until complete.

Basically, tell the kiddies to move along. What’s wrong with that?

So private security ‘guards’ have the right to move people on do they?? I’ll be buggered, I never knew that.

Pandy Pandy 5:31 pm 17 Nov 10

And there you go. I thought this site gave me the authority to film on public land.

http://www.4020.net/words/photorights.php

And since all of the ACT is Commonwealth Land, then I have no rights to film anywhere? Sounds like someone should read-up on democratic rights and the Falun Gong demonstrating on crown land outside the Sino Embassy

caf caf 8:27 am 17 Nov 10

Permits? We ain’t got no permits. We don’t need no permits! I don’t have to show you any steenkin’ permits!

creative_canberran creative_canberran 1:34 am 17 Nov 10

Actually, they were on Commonwealth Land which has strict restrictions on filming whether or nor for commercial use.
Furthermore, the law also places restrictions on the filming of private property.

The construction phase is likely the most sensitive for a secure building. It’s when a lot of the hidden security like countermeasures for electronic monitoring is fitted. The new MI6 building had very strict secrecy, with materials ordered under aliases and the building itself called something different until complete.

Basically, tell the kiddies to move along. What’s wrong with that?

Pandy Pandy 12:24 am 17 Nov 10

And if Fiona can rustle up a few “Don’t touch my junk” tops, I’ll be in.

caf caf 8:59 pm 16 Nov 10

gospeedygo: Bad analogy – the East German guards were always unfailingly polite.

olfella olfella 8:42 pm 16 Nov 10

Captain RAAF said :

I might head down there myself and gauge their reactions to some photography as I love a good laugh and welcome the opportunity to call their bluff…especially when I tell them who I am!

Haha – another one with an inflated ego asking everyone ‘ don’t you know who I am????’

Serenace1 Serenace1 8:14 pm 16 Nov 10

If they were film students, they should have been instructed to get a filming permit. Costs nothing if it is a student project. Its basic production knowledge. Though I must question the spare time of the authorities if a student film set arouses suspicion. What else cant you do in Canberra nowadays.

JC JC 6:31 pm 16 Nov 10

I think if you were to read the article in the Canberra Crimes the reason why the police were called might become a little bit understandable. It had little to do with the filming but more to do with where they were, what they were wearing and what, other than filming they may have been up to.

Rawhide Kid Part3 Rawhide Kid Part3 6:26 pm 16 Nov 10

Russ said :

Oh, and a tip for shooting many govt. buildings – do it on a weekend or public holiday, as neither building security nor terrorists work then.

Love it !!

Russ Russ 4:15 pm 16 Nov 10

I do a bit of commercial architectural photography for developers, architects and drafting firms, and annoyingly, many of their buildings tend to have government tenants, so having a security guard wander up while shooting is pretty much guaranteed. As mentioned (and I’ve confirmed this with the ACT Police) there is *no* law against photographing government buildings.

The only power a security guard has is to ask you to leave if you’re standing on private land.

Oh, and a tip for shooting many govt. buildings – do it on a weekend or public holiday, as neither building security nor terrorists work then.

SmileOnTrial SmileOnTrial 2:49 pm 16 Nov 10

boo boo said :

It’s obvious that ASIO is building a secret tunnel with the exit in the shed behind the cottage. There, the cats out of the bag.

No the secret tunnel goes past the shed then up Anzac Pde to the War Memorial to a waiting spacecraft that exits through the domed roof.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 2:40 pm 16 Nov 10

Me no fry said :

If the building is so damn secret why did they build it on one of the busiest roads in Canberra. If it was stuck out in the middle of a field in, oh, lets say halfway between Queanbeyan and Bungendore, then there wouldn’t be a problem with investigating photographers.

The little steam train that runs out to Bungendore on market days runs right past it, with an elevated viewpoint for good photos…

Thumper Thumper 2:31 pm 16 Nov 10

I’m sure you could find a much better example than America when it comes to restrictions on photographing government buildings.

In Morocco the paramilitary police unsling their rifles or sub machine guns as they walk towards you. This tends to suggest that they are not happy with you taking photos.

Holditz Holditz 2:31 pm 16 Nov 10

boo boo said :

There, the cats out of the bag.

No, they’re in the drain.

boo boo boo boo 2:22 pm 16 Nov 10

It’s obvious that ASIO is building a secret tunnel with the exit in the shed behind the cottage. There, the cats out of the bag.

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 1:48 pm 16 Nov 10

I heartily agree with everyone here on the stupidity and the over eagerness of a lot of contract security personnel and if you are engaged in innocent photographic pursuits then I encourage you to tell them to F*ck off! if they ask you for I.D etc etc.

Let the bastards try and apprehend you and hold you, they’ll be in for a bloody rude shock when they realise they are breaking the law, just so long as you don’t go trespassing or taking pictures through the fence there is diddly they can do about it.

I might head down there myself and gauge their reactions to some photography as I love a good laugh and welcome the opportunity to call their bluff…especially when I tell them who I am!

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