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The Grand Arboretum Opening

johnboy 29 January 2013 55

Chief Minister Gallagher is letting it be known that there is to be a community festival to open the arboretum:

“The opening of the Arboretum is the realisation of many years of work to transform the site, which emerged from the ashes of the devastating Canberra bushfires, to be transformed into a place of beauty, tranquillity, recreation, research and learning.”

People can enjoy a wide range of activities on the day. These include:

    — walking trails through rare and symbolic forests
    — hands-on workshops for all ages including art activities and children’s amusements
    — guided tours by the Friends of the National Arboretum and members of the Southern Tablelands Ecosystem Park
    — sustainable garden advice from ACTEW Water at The Canberra Discovery Garden
    — special talks by those involved in the Arboretum project including landscape architect Chris Johnstone and botanical consultant Mark Richardson.

Live music will keep people entertained throughout the day and kids will have the opportunity to fly kites in the outdoor amphitheatre.

The Chief Minister reminded people that there will be no parking available on site except for holders of a disability parking permit, event staff and volunteers. The best way to attend the opening festival is to utilise the free chartered Arboretum shuttle bus services which will operate from Canberra Stadium, Civic Bus Station, the bus stop servicing the Waldorf Apartments in Civic, the Federal Treasury building on Langton Crescent in Parkes, Stromlo Forest Park and Woden Bus Station.


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Postalgeek Postalgeek 9:48 am 01 Feb 13

grump said :

gasman said :

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

As well as the free shuttlebus mentioned, there is also a magnificent bike path right to the front gate.

Think outside the car.

If you were elderly, disabled, with small children etc etc, after the last public concert there, you’d not be going again without greater consideration being given to accessing the site – no car park within cooee on a major highway,, no lighting for functions finishing after dark, one way in, bottleneck. Totally inadequate for what it will become, be used as or promoted as.

It needs parking access in several locations, belco side, parkway side, down near the lake near older arboretum area.. simple!

There is sealed parking now in http://goo.gl/maps/LKJzI

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 9:59 am 01 Feb 13

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

Seriously? Free buses from all over. Drive all you like – to one of those locations. Then open your mind.

You’d rather an hours-long jam like happened at the last big function at the Museum?

Some people in Canberra really need to wake up to a reality that does not involve driving a car to within 20 metres of every single thing they do in life.

dungfungus dungfungus 10:06 am 01 Feb 13

Postalgeek said :

grump said :

gasman said :

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

As well as the free shuttlebus mentioned, there is also a magnificent bike path right to the front gate.

Think outside the car.

If you were elderly, disabled, with small children etc etc, after the last public concert there, you’d not be going again without greater consideration being given to accessing the site – no car park within cooee on a major highway,, no lighting for functions finishing after dark, one way in, bottleneck. Totally inadequate for what it will become, be used as or promoted as.

It needs parking access in several locations, belco side, parkway side, down near the lake near older arboretum area.. simple!

There is sealed parking now in this location but I’m not going to pretend it’s not a walk.

http://goo.gl/maps/LKJzI

And who paid for all this? I am sure the same government was whinging some time ago about the high cost of constructing car parks in Civic as an excuse for closing them down.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 10:09 am 01 Feb 13

Gungahlin Al said :

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

Seriously? Free buses from all over. Drive all you like – to one of those locations. Then open your mind.

You’d rather an hours-long jam like happened at the last big function at the Museum?

Some people in Canberra really need to wake up to a reality that does not involve driving a car to within 20 metres of every single thing they do in life.

You forget, Al, it’s politically incorrect to call it a ‘free bus’. They are now called ‘revenue-challenged buses’, or better yet ‘buses without fares’ because they are a bus first and foremost.

‘Free bus’ makes it sound like anyone can just take one home.

dungfungus dungfungus 10:22 am 01 Feb 13

Gungahlin Al said :

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

Seriously? Free buses from all over. Drive all you like – to one of those locations. Then open your mind.

You’d rather an hours-long jam like happened at the last big function at the Museum?

Some people in Canberra really need to wake up to a reality that does not involve driving a car to within 20 metres of every single thing they do in life.

No such thing as a free bus.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 11:09 am 01 Feb 13

dungfungus said :

Gungahlin Al said :

RiotFrog said :

The almost total lack of parking is interesting. Is this our cheerless leader’s latest parking policies in action?
I’m also wondering how many people will read/be aware of the fact that there is no parking?

Seriously? Free buses from all over. Drive all you like – to one of those locations. Then open your mind.

You’d rather an hours-long jam like happened at the last big function at the Museum?

Some people in Canberra really need to wake up to a reality that does not involve driving a car to within 20 metres of every single thing they do in life.

No such thing as a free bus.

Like clockwork…

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 12:01 pm 01 Feb 13

Postalgeek said :

No such thing as a free bus.

Like clockwork…

^^ This.

Ben_Dover Ben_Dover 1:21 pm 01 Feb 13

People can enjoy a wide range of activities on the day. These include;
Walking.
Trees.
Hippes.

dph dph 2:19 pm 01 Feb 13

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Watson Watson 2:53 pm 01 Feb 13

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Yes and why would you have lawns or a flower gardens when there are paddocks everywhere?

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 3:06 pm 01 Feb 13

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Because you have a very large area of land that will never be built on due to National Capital Plan restrictions and you have to do something with it, so why not make it something special, this being the nation’s capital and all?

dph dph 3:38 pm 01 Feb 13

Gungahlin Al said :

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Because you have a very large area of land that will never be built on due to National Capital Plan restrictions and you have to do something with it, so why not make it something special, this being the nation’s capital and all?

Is there no way to over turn the restrictions? Was there simply no other options?

I just don’t understand the logic behind building a tree park in Canberra when we’re surrounded by bush land, national parks, mountains etc…

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:50 pm 01 Feb 13

dph said :

Gungahlin Al said :

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Because you have a very large area of land that will never be built on due to National Capital Plan restrictions and you have to do something with it, so why not make it something special, this being the nation’s capital and all?

Is there no way to over turn the restrictions? Was there simply no other options?

I just don’t understand the logic behind building a tree park in Canberra when we’re surrounded by bush land, national parks, mountains etc…

And Sydney has an aquarium and swimming pools when it’s right next to the sea. Stupid!

PrinceOfAles PrinceOfAles 3:52 pm 01 Feb 13

dph said :

Gungahlin Al said :

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Because you have a very large area of land that will never be built on due to National Capital Plan restrictions and you have to do something with it, so why not make it something special, this being the nation’s capital and all?

Is there no way to over turn the restrictions? Was there simply no other options?

I just don’t understand the logic behind building a tree park in Canberra when we’re surrounded by bush land, national parks, mountains etc…

Why does everything have to be logical and practical all the time? Can`t we just have some things because they`re nice? I can`t wait to go there and check it out.

dustytrail dustytrail 4:36 pm 01 Feb 13

GardeningGirl said :

National museum, arboretum, other arboretum, rock garden, zoo, multistorey underground parking with some sort of shuttle around the venues, ferry link to the city, I don’t know, maybe there’s some flaws with how I would of seen it, but I reckon there’s wasted opportunities. I like the arboretum though, really looking forward to visiting it, not on the big day though.

Canberra born and bred, huh?

dustytrail dustytrail 4:42 pm 01 Feb 13

Canberra is a Planned City. There are more Planners employed here than anywhere else in Oz, I imagine. They are the Boss of You and there is nothing you can do about it. *wink*

dph dph 5:39 pm 01 Feb 13

dustytrail said :

Canberra is a Planned City. There are more Planners employed here than anywhere else in Oz, I imagine. They are the Boss of You and there is nothing you can do about it. *wink*

Very true.

It was silly of me to ask about a highly questionable project, which is costing millions of dollars to build and maintain.

In a city that couldn’t be more spread out if they tried, with multiple parks & nature reserves, surrounded by bush land & mountains, I’m sure glad they spent all that money building a tree park.

dungfungus dungfungus 6:32 pm 01 Feb 13

dph said :

So can anyone answer this question?… An Arboretum in a city that is surrounded by parks & bush land… Why?

Because it looked like a good idea at the time. You can do almost anything when you have unlimited access to money and no accountability as to the outcome.

rogerthat rogerthat 6:34 pm 01 Feb 13

Thumper said :

dungfungus said :

Even our Chief Minister can’t get the history right. The arboretum did not “emerge from the ashes of the devastating Canberra bushfires”.
It was a single fire in 2001 that destroyed the radiata plantation where the aboretum now stands. There was nothing “devastating” about that fire.
Like the director of our centenary celebrations, the CM has confused the genesis of the aboretum with the 2003 fires.

This is correct. The 2001 fires destroyed the pine plantation well before the 2003 fires.

I say incorrect.

2001 destroyed the pine plantation, but it was not until the 2003 fires that the Bushfire Recovery Strategy was implemented, which comprised initiatives such as Stromlo Forest Park, the rebuild of Uriarra Village & Tidbinbilla, and the Arboretum. Following the 2001 fires the future of the radiata plantation site was undecided, other than a plan to replant pines. It was not until the aftermath of the 2003 fires that the Arboretum concept was born.

Therefore statements from the Chief, the Director, the ABC, and anyone else claiming that the Arboretum emerged from the ashes of the 2003 fires are correct..

dungfungus dungfungus 7:00 pm 01 Feb 13

rogerthat said :

Thumper said :

dungfungus said :

Even our Chief Minister can’t get the history right. The arboretum did not “emerge from the ashes of the devastating Canberra bushfires”.
It was a single fire in 2001 that destroyed the radiata plantation where the aboretum now stands. There was nothing “devastating” about that fire.
Like the director of our centenary celebrations, the CM has confused the genesis of the aboretum with the 2003 fires.

This is correct. The 2001 fires destroyed the pine plantation well before the 2003 fires.

I say incorrect.

2001 destroyed the pine plantation, but it was not until the 2003 fires that the Bushfire Recovery Strategy was implemented, which comprised initiatives such as Stromlo Forest Park, the rebuild of Uriarra Village & Tidbinbilla, and the Arboretum. Following the 2001 fires the future of the radiata plantation site was undecided, other than a plan to replant pines. It was not until the aftermath of the 2003 fires that the Arboretum concept was born.

Therefore statements from the Chief, the Director, the ABC, and anyone else claiming that the Arboretum emerged from the ashes of the 2003 fires are correct..

Out of the smoke and ashes another acolyte appears to support the story that is becoming folklore.
Are you seriously suggesting that ashes from the 2003 fires were transported to the site where the arboretum is so it could emerge?
Whatever spin you care to put on it, the fire where the aboretum now exists happened in 2001.

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