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The Greens transport plan for pedestrian and cycling safety

By johnboy - 20 August 2012 23

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After a false start where they linked to a March 2010 transport plan the Greens have announced their Pedestrian and Cycling Safety Package.

The ACT Greens Active Transport Package includes:

— $13.25m for walking and cycling infrastructure, to help repair our cracked paths, and for new and upgraded paths, bike lanes, lighting and signage;

— $600k for measures increasing pedestrian safety and amenity, including tripling the number of new crossings and 40km/h zones, and new ‘vulnerable road user’ laws and training for learner drivers;

— $500k to plan for Canberra’s first cycle highway, a direct, high-quality cycle path from Molonglo to the Parliamentary Triangle and Civic;

— $350k for a ‘Canberra Rides’ small grants program, to promote an everyday bike culture in Canberra;

— Upgrades to the ‘FixMyStreet’ service, including an app to let Canberrans use their smartphones to make suggestions about needed works;

— Review of planning codes to support active transport, including requiring all new streets to have footpaths and new developments to give priority to active transport through better streetscapes and more bike lanes.

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23 Responses to
The Greens transport plan for pedestrian and cycling safety
wildturkeycanoe 6:46 am 22 Aug 12

davo101 said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Innovation said :

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

But unfortunately the Greens have great visions but no financial credibility.

So how much do you think the annual bicycle rego fee and annual license fee should be under your proposal? And would the bike fee be per bike? And would the fee apply to all cyclists irrespective of age or disability? And would certain people be banned from cycling (eg if they have been done for DUI in a car or if they have lost their car license because of age or disability)? And would you require an extra rego fee for bicycle trailers or tag along bikes? And would the per person fee have to go up each year to cover the lost revenue as people stop cycling and sell their bikes en masse?

Yes.

No.

As much as I would like to say YES to this, I would change my mind if they removed registration for motorcycles. After all, isn’t a motorcycle just a bicycle that can go fast?? Just use the argument above and put “motor” in front of bicycle….
Hey, why don’t we have dedicated motorcycle lanes too!!! It might reduce the number of fatalities for our 2 wheeled Top Guns out there.

KB1971 9:28 pm 21 Aug 12

Grrrr said :

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

So what WAS the cost of medical services provided last financial year to pedestrians who were injured by cyclists? What about when you only count the incidents where the cyclist was at fault? Does it approximate zero when you divide it by the number of bike owners in the ACT? Perhaps pedestrians are in even greater need of 3rd party insurance..

I’m all for bike registration if it did something useful like generate a working national database of bike ownership to combat theft .. but it sounds like all you want to do is hit cyclists with punitive fees for being different to you. Also, rego doesn’t pay for roads .. we’ve been over that a million times!

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Another tax on things we already pay for with rates, GST and other forms of revenue that is raised by the Federal and State governments.

This argument always makes me laugh as the people putting up this point of veiw always insinuate that all cyclists do not contribute to society which could not be further from the truth.

Intel70 9:02 pm 21 Aug 12

I want to know when we’ll start charging registration for pedestrians. Those walking around on foot have been given foot paths most urban roads in Canberra… they’ve been given recreational shared paths… at almost every set of traffic lights there’s pedestrian signals. Who on earth is paying for this? How is this funded? It’s not fair that us motorists have to shell out for pedestrian facilities…

Then we get the occasional pedestrian crossing the road against red signals, jumping gutters… yet we have no way to report these criminals.

I say registration plates and annual registration fees on anyone who is out for a stroll or walk to the shops is well over due. It’s about time these leeches start paying for their own infrastructure.

Chop71 7:56 pm 21 Aug 12

Nothing fires up this site more than a bike thread.

jb1964 6:13 pm 21 Aug 12

Grrrr said :

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

So what WAS the cost of medical services provided last financial year to pedestrians who were injured by cyclists? What about when you only count the incidents where the cyclist was at fault? Does it approximate zero when you divide it by the number of bike owners in the ACT? Perhaps pedestrians are in even greater need of 3rd party insurance..

I’m all for bike registration if it did something useful like generate a working national database of bike ownership to combat theft .. but it sounds like all you want to do is hit cyclists with punitive fees for being different to you. Also, rego doesn’t pay for roads .. we’ve been over that a million times!

+1

Grrrr 4:57 pm 21 Aug 12

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

So what WAS the cost of medical services provided last financial year to pedestrians who were injured by cyclists? What about when you only count the incidents where the cyclist was at fault? Does it approximate zero when you divide it by the number of bike owners in the ACT? Perhaps pedestrians are in even greater need of 3rd party insurance..

I’m all for bike registration if it did something useful like generate a working national database of bike ownership to combat theft .. but it sounds like all you want to do is hit cyclists with punitive fees for being different to you. Also, rego doesn’t pay for roads .. we’ve been over that a million times!

BicycleCanberra 4:43 pm 21 Aug 12

housebound said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

So where exactly is all this money coming from?

Been wondering the same thing. It’s not like they’ll actually hold the keys to treasury. We’ll have to wait for Labor or Liberals to see what these promises might come to.

Its about reallocating the Transport Budget to better reflect what Canberrans want. Already 3/4 goes to road infrastructure, so lets even it up a bit!

davo101 4:16 pm 21 Aug 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Innovation said :

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

But unfortunately the Greens have great visions but no financial credibility.

So how much do you think the annual bicycle rego fee and annual license fee should be under your proposal? And would the bike fee be per bike? And would the fee apply to all cyclists irrespective of age or disability? And would certain people be banned from cycling (eg if they have been done for DUI in a car or if they have lost their car license because of age or disability)? And would you require an extra rego fee for bicycle trailers or tag along bikes? And would the per person fee have to go up each year to cover the lost revenue as people stop cycling and sell their bikes en masse?

Yes.

No.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 4:07 pm 21 Aug 12

Innovation said :

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

But unfortunately the Greens have great visions but no financial credibility.

So how much do you think the annual bicycle rego fee and annual license fee should be under your proposal? And would the bike fee be per bike? And would the fee apply to all cyclists irrespective of age or disability? And would certain people be banned from cycling (eg if they have been done for DUI in a car or if they have lost their car license because of age or disability)? And would you require an extra rego fee for bicycle trailers or tag along bikes? And would the per person fee have to go up each year to cover the lost revenue as people stop cycling and sell their bikes en masse?

Yes.

Innovation 3:59 pm 21 Aug 12

pete74au said :

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

But unfortunately the Greens have great visions but no financial credibility.

So how much do you think the annual bicycle rego fee and annual license fee should be under your proposal? And would the bike fee be per bike? And would the fee apply to all cyclists irrespective of age or disability? And would certain people be banned from cycling (eg if they have been done for DUI in a car or if they have lost their car license because of age or disability)? And would you require an extra rego fee for bicycle trailers or tag along bikes? And would the per person fee have to go up each year to cover the lost revenue as people stop cycling and sell their bikes en masse?

pete74au 2:01 pm 21 Aug 12

By introducing a registration fee and licensing for cyclists you could raise money for more infrastructure, improve road safety and if compulsory 3rd party was included save the medical costs to injured pedestrians.

But unfortunately the Greens have great visions but no financial credibility.

housebound 9:36 am 21 Aug 12

Sorry to double post, but has anyone looked at TaMS annual report – maybe $13 odd million is what the government already spends on “walking and cycling infrastructure, to help repair our cracked paths, and for new and upgraded paths, bike lanes, lighting and signage”.

housebound 9:35 am 21 Aug 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

So where exactly is all this money coming from?

Been wondering the same thing. It’s not like they’ll actually hold the keys to treasury. We’ll have to wait for Labor or Liberals to see what these promises might come to.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 7:43 am 21 Aug 12

So where exactly is all this monmey coming from?

joingler 1:52 pm 20 Aug 12

Haven’t read the whole report but on the things listed above:

– $13.25m for walking and cycling infrastructure, to help repair our cracked paths, and for new and upgraded paths, bike lanes, lighting and signage; – Signage on northside is fine, and there are few major cracks in paths.

– $600k for measures increasing pedestrian safety and amenity, including tripling the number of new crossings and 40km/h zones, and new ‘vulnerable road user’ laws and training for learner drivers; – Tripling number of crossings?? There are already too many. Why are there 3 within 200metres on Corinna Street. 3 in the Gungahlin TC is plenty.

– $500k to plan for Canberra’s first cycle highway, a direct, high-quality cycle path from Molonglo to the Parliamentary Triangle and Civic; – Waste of money and this is coming from a cyclist. 1 bike path is plenty and can link up to the existing path on the northern end of LBG

– $350k for a ‘Canberra Rides’ small grants program, to promote an everyday bike culture in Canberra; – Dunno on this. Undecided

– Upgrades to the ‘FixMyStreet’ service, including an app to let Canberrans use their smartphones to make suggestions about needed works; – Excellent idea. Surprised it hasn’t been done already

– Review of planning codes to support active transport, including requiring all new streets to have footpaths and new developments to give priority to active transport through better streetscapes and more bike lanes. – Not every street needs footpaths. More bike lanes is a good idea but I really do hope they don’t take it overboard

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