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The impact of the Wanniassa death

By MiCkY91 - 23 March 2009 186

[First filed: March 22, 2009 @ 10:33
Second filing: March 23, 2009 @ 09:25]

This morning on my way to baseball my family and i were blocked off from the end of the street.

Up to 100 metres distance was blocked off with police there and a black car.

For my age i had no idea what was going on, all i knew is where this insident happend, fights and parties would always happen.

Later on that day i was talking to my mum about this incident then she went on facebook to talk to a friend who lives on the conner of our street and as a coment to him someone has left “R.I.P”.

Straight away she called up the guy called Jamie who died’s girlfriend or really close friend and told her what happened.

After a while my mum talked to me about what happened.

She said the guy was bashed to death by someone Jamie riped off with drugs.

It was quite scary knowing someone has died at the end of my street and by someone bashing him up.

All i have learnt is to stay FAR AWAY from drugs!!!

[ED – this is, I believe, related to the second item here]

UPDATED: The ABC reports that a 31 year old man has been charged with “assault occasioning actual bodily harm”.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Thanks to realityskin for the link, NineMSN are now reporting names:

    Steven Robert John Milicevic, 31, is charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

    Jamie Joseph Peisley, 26, died on Friday shortly after he collapsed.

Bail was not applied for. Milicevic will appear in court again in April.

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The impact of the Wanniassa death
astrojax 5:22 pm 22 Mar 09

fair enough, your experience seems to give your sentiments ample weight. i don’t necessarily disagree, of course, at the heart of your assessment of the class ‘drug dealer’ and i too claim no knowledge of this person, so i am in no position to decry a valid standpoint.

i’m the devil not so in disquiz, as it were – or at least his advocate! but well put position and have had some similar relationships in my time and have taken the same path.

BerraBoy68 5:08 pm 22 Mar 09

astrojax said :

hitler and milat were clearly dominated by the aspect of their character for which we are entitled not to have respect; on the evidence, this chap wasn’t yet berraboy seems to be assuming a lot for not actually haven known the man. is all…

(and it is another question again if the suburban dealers are the real lynchpins in the chain of events whereby drugs ruin someone’s life – not for this thread…)

In some respect Astrojax you are right, and I apologise if my comments caused offence. My stance is this: If somebody becomes hooked on drugs due to the effects of their background (e.g. abuse etc.) then I feel genuinely sorry for them and will try help them as much as I can. That said, sympathy is not the same as respect, which I can have for ‘user’ at a later time if the person is seen to be actually trying to help themselves.

This is simply my view on ‘users’ of hard drugs and I have known a few, including family members who’s lives have been ruined by cocaine, heroine, ice etc. right her in Canberra. When it comes to dealers however, I can have no positive feelings for them at all, no matter how nice they may appear to the broader community. I’ve walked out on a more than one friendship once I realised my ‘friends’ were involved in dealing.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 5:03 pm 22 Mar 09

Respect is something earned, not something to which everyone is automatically entitled. People that carry on about ‘respect’ are usually confusing respect with good manners.

Spam Box 4:36 pm 22 Mar 09

astrojax said :

and it is another question again if the suburban dealers are the real lynchpins in the chain of events whereby drugs ruin someone’s life – not for this thread..

Yes, that would be a a thread worth having. (hint hint JB)

astrojax 4:27 pm 22 Mar 09

hitler and milat were clearly dominated by the aspect of their character for which we are entitled not to have respect; on the evidence, this chap wasn’t yet berraboy seems to be assuming a lot for not actually haven known the man. is all…

(and it is another question again if the suburban dealers are the real lynchpins in the chain of events whereby drugs ruin someone’s life – not for this thread…)

squashee 4:01 pm 22 Mar 09

Astrojax – how bad do you have to be before you lose the respect? If Hitler or Ivan Milat were lovely people, but just had one bad “aspect of a complex life” – do you still respect them? Or are you implying that their families might still have respect for them?

How bad does someone have to be before we give up – kill someone or kill many or rape someone – and does dealing drugs, which leads to deaths and ruined lives suffice?

astrojax 3:53 pm 22 Mar 09

nicely said, devil.

in fact, this highlights berra’s judging of this person on one aspect of a complex life rather than the whole. indeed seeming keen to dismiss the rest, in fact, when it is this ‘rest’ that matters to significant others – which is why, yes, even dealers deserve some respect.

Devil_n_Disquiz 3:06 pm 22 Mar 09

On a couple of occasions I had picked up a ‘Jamie’ from Carr Cres in the taxi and took him to the Venue at Erindale. I have no idea if its the same one. The Jamie I came into contact with was a stocky, blonde haired guy.
He was obviously many different things to many different people. Some good and some not so good. If in fact it is the same guy I just want to say that while he was a passenger in my cab he was always a very polite, friendly and well spoken young man.

BerraBoy68 2:26 pm 22 Mar 09

As I said in the other related thread, I have absolutely no sympathy for anybody that deals drugs. And contrary to bella’s assertion @ post #17 in the other thread, I believe dealers are certainly not deserving of our respect. Why should they be? If anything they deserve our contempt.

That said, if the deceased had family that are innocent in all this, then they have certainly do my sincerest sympathies.

Trunking symbols 2:22 pm 22 Mar 09

As you grow older you’ll learn to throw in a few “allegedlys” when relating stories like this.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 1:02 pm 22 Mar 09

Sadly, this is where drugs lead in some cases.

A friend who would have done anything for you? Hmm, how about providing a safe and healthy environment for his kids…?

Footloose 12:51 pm 22 Mar 09

“He is a man that is going to be missed my many x x x”

Yes, he probably is a man who will be missed by many…junkies who can no longer get drugs from him?

Spam Box 12:08 pm 22 Mar 09

Well MiCkY91 it sounds like your quite shocked by all of this, take it easy ok. Perhaps there’s lessons to be learned here but don’t let the events overwhelm you.

bela 11:42 am 22 Mar 09

Well thats not the smartest thing to say is it.
More could have been killed in all this if he got out his guns!
RIP JP.
Yes he may be many things in this world but he was a son, a brother & father.Most of all a friend that would have one anything for you!
He is a man that is going to be missed my many x x x

hk0reduck 10:43 am 22 Mar 09

Hmm.. I’m pretty sure the lesson here is that if you’re going to deal with drugs you should always carry a gun.

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