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The prison doors open…

johnboy 15 September 2008 112

[First filed: September 11, 2008 @ 14:56]

The Chief Minister has announced the opening of his great legacy, the Alexander Maconochie Centre in Hume.

Or, as Mr. Stanhope would prefer for it to be known:

    “the first Australian prison built according to human rights principles.”

More info on the prison and a lovely picture of Simon Corbell can be found at www.cs.act.gov.au/amc/home.

UPDATED: For a taste of something truly repellent try the audio from the ABC news of Mr. Stanhope comparing sending prisoners from Canberra to NSW today with transportation from England to Australia in the 18th century. Get a grip you big girl’s blouse.

ANOTHER UPDATE: The Indian press is gobsmacked by this development.


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cranky 6:37 pm 16 Sep 08

Strikes me there’s bugger all thought for the victims of these criminal a@#eholes in this discussion.

I would like my pound of flesh from the thieving, abusing, assaulting, destructive creatures who constitute the guests of this establishment.

The rehabilitation can start later.

Granny 6:35 pm 16 Sep 08

Fantastic story, Overheard!

It just goes to show the sort of constructive things that can be done when people are willing to use a bit of common sense.

Overheard 5:49 pm 16 Sep 08

We could always take a leaf out of Italy’s (cook) book and have the prison run as a gourmet restaurant, esp. given this town’s preoccupation with eateries:

http://aroundbritainwithapaunch.blogspot.com/2007/05/italian-food-in-prison.html

Probably better links exist, but this one was handy.

I don’t think the inmate chefs get to wield the carving knives.

starry 5:45 pm 16 Sep 08

Just found what the inscription is at the front of the building.

There are two inscriptions on the prison’s perimeter: “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights,” which is taken from The United States Declaration of Independence, and “Each of the persons deprived of their liberty must be humanely and with respect for the inherent dignity of the human being treated.”

starry 5:39 pm 16 Sep 08

I was once sent a email on a luxury prison in leoben Austria, looked very nice and updated.

Perhaps Stanhope is trying to keep up with the rest of the world?

neanderthalsis 5:29 pm 16 Sep 08

An ADG? That would be worse than prison. 😛

But seriously, a gaol where the con gets a swipe card to let them in and out of their cell, has their own ensuite, free gym access and all meals included sounds suspiciously like the sofitel to me.

johnboy 5:04 pm 16 Sep 08

Peter, DMD, VY.

Last warning, next OT comment will see you in moderation.

That is all.

peter@home 5:00 pm 16 Sep 08

Deadmandrinking said :

nyssa76 said :

DMD, are you serious? Do you comprehend a sentence?

Pay soldiers handsomely? Are you the one that is high?

You have no argument.

Your logic is flawed and you need to focus more on learning that preaching absolute BS.

Well, gee, I’d like 30,000 a year for my education, wouldn’t you?

In fact, it all looks pretty alright to me: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/payAndBenefits/payDetails.aspx

How much do convicts get paid then?

why should convicts get paid?
how come soldiers get paid so little?
I would prefer that they were paid well, can you say military coup?

30k for your education? sure. But you have to be taught and sign a contract that means you can go to war at the drop of a hat, but hey, you got an education first….

my advice to you is to go and enlist. Try the Airforce. a position in the ADG will sort you out….

Deadmandrinking 4:57 pm 16 Sep 08

Well, the pay’s pretty nice, you gotta admit…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:52 pm 16 Sep 08

You can just waltz into being a doctor, can’t you? I’ll be your new shrink tomorrow, just let me head down to the hospital and put in my application.

What does this have to do with anything? I still maintain soldiers aren’t paid handsomely, and that you think they are cos you don’t know any better. Anyway, have a good arvo, I’m off…

Deadmandrinking 4:45 pm 16 Sep 08

You can just waltz into being a doctor, can’t you? I’ll be your new shrink tomorrow, just let me head down to the hospital and put in my application.

J/B, I kind of think this constitutes as being part of the prison argument. I honestly think the argument that ‘we give nothing to our soldiers, but everything to our prisoners’ is the most ridiculous argument since ‘Santa is real because I saw him in the mall’. Maybe these people need to spend some time in Goulburn to find out…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:42 pm 16 Sep 08

Perhaps we could pay prisoner in drugs?

johnboy 4:40 pm 16 Sep 08

Alright you horrible lot that’s enough.

You should all know better.

Disgrace to the uniform an’ all.

Seriously though unless you’re talking about prisons it’s time to give it a rest.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:38 pm 16 Sep 08

Because those things add up to several thousand a year, maybe more if you knwo how to use the system. I get only only a small propertion of those extra benefits, but then I am paid a great deal more than they are.

Even assuming they manage to add $20k a year to their income, given the hassle they experience in getting it (ie by being away from their families a lot and placing themselves in physical danger) it still doesn’t represent good pay in my opinion.

It took 8 years after finishing my undergrad degree before I was paid what I considered to be a lot. Seriously – the pay numbers given on that page are OK, but they are NOT ‘handsome’ by any sensible Australian measure. Have a look what guys in higher end IT jobs earn, or what people who work in the mines make, or private sector lawyers and accountants, or doctors, or…

Deadmandrinking 4:30 pm 16 Sep 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

In fact, it all looks pretty alright to me: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/payAndBenefits/payDetails.aspx

This is the sort of thing that makes your lack of experience bleedingly obvious. If you think the numbers in those links represent ‘handsome’ pay in Australia, you’ve clearly never held a full time job.

Jeez, mate, the average full time Australian income is only about $60k a year!

Why don’t you calculate the housing assistance, house buying assistance, bonuses to super, free private health care, tax benefits…do you get all of these with your job?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:26 pm 16 Sep 08

In fact, it all looks pretty alright to me: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/payAndBenefits/payDetails.aspx

This is the sort of thing that makes your lack of experience bleedingly obvious. If you think the numbers in those links represent ‘handsome’ pay in Australia, you’ve clearly never held a full time job.

Jeez, mate, the average full time Australian income is only about $60k a year!

Deadmandrinking 4:19 pm 16 Sep 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Of course soldiers are paid handsomely… compared to school kids who work at Maccas…

Macca’s pay $55 grand a year? Dude, why didn’t I get a job there in high school?

Deadmandrinking 4:18 pm 16 Sep 08

nyssa76 said :

DMD, are you serious? Do you comprehend a sentence?

Pay soldiers handsomely? Are you the one that is high?

You have no argument.

Your logic is flawed and you need to focus more on learning that preaching absolute BS.

Well, gee, I’d like 30,000 a year for my education, wouldn’t you?

In fact, it all looks pretty alright to me: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/payAndBenefits/payDetails.aspx

How much do convicts get paid then?

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:14 pm 16 Sep 08

Of course soldiers are paid handsomely… compared to school kids who work at Maccas…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:12 pm 16 Sep 08

The point is that you seem to have a strongly held pinko lefty view on nearly every emotive topic that comes up on this site, and you’re still a school kid.

And it’s not sad, it’s just kinda typical of some young people who think they know more than they really do. But keep it coming…

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