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The thieves have been at it…

By Blingerific 19 May 2010 54

News from various mates is that Monday evening saw a number of bikes stolen from Dickson in what seems to be a fairly organised hit. These aren’t cheap bikes, nor were they left without being secured. The locks (many of which were good quality locks) were cut and the helmets were often left behind.

If you saw something, give Crimestoppers a call and say something. One of the missing bikes is a blue Kona Jake the Snake that was stolen from outside Woolies between 7.15 and 7.40pm. Unfortunately I left the details for the other bikes at work but a number were stolen from out the front of the gymnasium (near the Dickson Tradies car park) around the same time.

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Tooks 2:21 pm 28 Dec 10

I realise this is an old thread, but this comment by giantrider (#46) doesn’t really make sense to me:

– We had my wife’s bike (blue Avanti mtn bike) and our baby’s bike trailer (orange Chariot Cougar 1) stolen several weeks ago from deep within our backyard. My wife thinks in hindsight that she saw a few kids checking it out and watching her ride home up our driveway and through our back gate etc. The same kids probably came soon afterwards that evening before we’d had a chance to properly lock it away in our shed. We reported the theft to the police straight away – they were sympathetic but not especially encouraging about their ability to do anything.

Okay, so far, there is no evidence to go on. You’ve reported the theft (hopefully with serial numbers etc) and there’s nothing much else you (or police) can do at this stage.

– A couple of weeks later a friend of ours saw some kids misusing our trailer (there are only two of its type and colour in Canberra and it was pretty obvious that they were not using it for its proper purpose) and took a photo of them. We sent the photo to police immediately

Two weeks have now elapsed since the theft. So how do you know for sure it was your trailer? And what do you mean by “misusing” your trailer?

– I asked around all the local high schools and the principal of Lyneham High School managed to identify the students as hers and said that she would co-operate with the police and give their names and addresses etc.

So the kids you took photos of misusing your trailer were identified by the High School. We still don’t know it was your trailer.

– After about another three weeks of doing absolutely nothing and after almost daily pestering from us the Police finally decided to get in contact with the kid’s parents. The parents simply declined to come in for an interview and so the cops declared that they had done all they could!!!

They declined to come in for an interview. Under legislation, what would you have liked them to do next? Over two weeks had passed since the police were informed of the names of the kids.

People need to understand what can and can’t be done by police in cases like this. In essence, what you have is this:

– The theft of a bike and trailer.
– Photos of kids misusing a trailer (maybe yours, maybe not).
– School staff identifying kids with the trailer (again – which may not even be yours).
– Parents who are obviously unwilling to co-operate with police.

Tooks 1:56 pm 28 Dec 10

The Kona Jake the Snake was spotted on a Canberra-based online auction site in late November, listed under the category of “AFP Lost & Stolen Property – Push Bikes”. It would appear that the bike ended up with the police, was not identified and returned to its owner, but instead was put up for auction as unclaimed lost or stolen property. Apparently, the rightful owner had some difficulty convincing the police and the auction company that the bike was his and to get them to remove it from auction.

A good lesson to be learned here: Always keep identification numbers (serial numbers) of anything valuable (bikes, computers, phones etc), otherwise it’s extremely difficult to track down owners. Sounds like common sense, but you’d be surprised how many people have valuables taken and are unable to provide serial numbers.

If stolen property is located (found, recovered in a search warrant etc) but can’t be matched to an owner, then it still has to be disposed of.

surly-owner 2:16 pm 27 Dec 10

The Kona Jake the Snake was spotted on a Canberra-based online auction site in late November, listed under the category of “AFP Lost & Stolen Property – Push Bikes”. It would appear that the bike ended up with the police, was not identified and returned to its owner, but instead was put up for auction as unclaimed lost or stolen property. Apparently, the rightful owner had some difficulty convincing the police and the auction company that the bike was his and to get them to remove it from auction.

Bandicoot 6:31 pm 18 Jun 10

The inaction continues, particularly in regards to the group from Lyneham High. They hang out at the playground at De Burgh Street at the play ground next to the bike path every morning when they decide to go to school. Alas for us, yesterday they decided to climb to our first floor balcony and steal two bikes belonging to our best mates who had come to Canberra for the first time to try out Stromlo etc. Cops not much use, even though we all know who did the job. We are all shattered.

Thanks for the tips here – we will on the look out in all the recommended places. Can you all please help us look for:
a purple/blue Specialized Pitch Comp 2008 (alpine star stickers top tube (red one side Yellow other), and Roach stickers
and a Norco Fluid 2 2007 (LIME GREEN) If you do see them, please call Crimestoppers/police.

ThisIsAName 3:05 pm 10 Jun 10

Some thieves have weird tastes. A friend locked up a *complete junk* bike in the centre of the Melbourne building (late May). Less than an hour later, the bike & (probably cheap) lock were gone. A thief probably found it cheaper than a bus trip. I’ve also heard reports of bike thieves turning up to bike racks etc on a rubbish bike, dumping it, then making off with a more valuable one. Anyone else heard that one?

surly-owner 2:21 pm 10 Jun 10

Myrmecia said :

Focus on functionality, not aesthetic appeal. Think of the cycling equivalent of a WW2 “Q-ship”.

I considered my stolen Surly Crosscheck to be functional and low on aesthetic appeal. And it was a battleship grey colour. Unlike a WW2 Q-ship, however, it had no concealed weaponry. Perhaps that was the flaw in the disguise!

Myrmecia said :

I have ridden it most days since I bought it and park it using a simple cable lock. And I still have it.

May you continue to have it.

p1 2:17 pm 10 Jun 10

surly-owner said :

The police say they need to hard evidence before they can act, and rightfully so. It would be wrong for them to act on mere hearsay.

However, isn’t a clear photograph of suspects with a stolen object sufficient?

I hate to channel the US, but is there any possibility to pursue this kind of thing legally without the assistance of the police? Small claims court for them using your bike without paying rental perhaps?

surly-owner 1:12 pm 10 Jun 10

The young males who are doing this have learned that they can brazenly continue with their thievery, confident that there is little likelihood of them being caught and being held responsible for their actions.

The police say they need to hard evidence before they can act, and rightfully so. It would be wrong for them to act on mere hearsay.

However, isn’t a clear photograph of suspects with a stolen object sufficient?

To giantrider, please send a copy of the photo.

giantrider 10:01 am 10 Jun 10

Another sob story of recently stolen bike in vicinity of Dickson shops from me I’m afraid. And also a very frustrating description of inaction by the police.

– We had my wife’s bike (blue Avanti mtn bike) and our baby’s bike trailer (orange Chariot Cougar 1) stolen several weeks ago from deep within our backyard. My wife thinks in hindsight that she saw a few kids checking it out and watching her ride home up our driveway and through our back gate etc. The same kids probably came soon afterwards that evening before we’d had a chance to properly lock it away in our shed. We reported the theft to the police straight away – they were sympathetic but not especially encouraging about their ability to do anything.
– A couple of weeks later a friend of ours saw some kids misusing our trailer (there are only two of its type and colour in Canberra and it was pretty obvious that they were not using it for its proper purpose) and took a photo of them. We sent the photo to police immediately
– I asked around all the local high schools and the principal of Lyneham High School managed to identify the students as hers and said that she would co-operate with the police and give their names and addresses etc.
– After about another three weeks of doing absolutely nothing and after almost daily pestering from us the Police finally decided to get in contact with the kid’s parents. The parents simply declined to come in for an interview and so the cops declared that they had done all they could!!!

I’m pretty pissed off not just because we had our stuff stolen (but yep fairly pissed off about that) but even more so because no-one in authority seems willing or able to do anything much about it and these young shits learn that they can pretty get easily away with stealing stuff with no consequences at all. And for those few smug anti-bike people on this thread (I always find you lot very amusing by the way so thanks for the entertainment) I’m quite certain that patterns have shown that the kids who learn to steal bikes at 15 have moved onto cars and stereos and tv’s by the time they’re 20.

To Blingerific and Surly-owner, I could get your details off the posters and send you a very clear photo of the kids that had our bike and trailer if you think it might possibly help you guys track yours down. I’d rather not post it anywhere cause I’m definitely not a real big fan of vigilante action! Let me know if you think it might help. And I’ll continue to keep my eyes out for your bikes.

Myrmecia 6:32 am 10 Jun 10

There is a middle course between a bike that is attractive to kids and an Ozzi Junk heap. Canberra’s “Spokesman” bikes from the 1980s are still around and in original, dated paint work. Get one of these frames (or an old “Apollo”) and then upgrade the components to a suitable level (keep to the minimum acceptable standard; don’t go for top-of-the-line items or pretty ones). Focus on functionality, not aesthetic appeal. Think of the cycling equivalent of a WW2 “Q-ship”. I have a bike like this – bought in the 1970s, has bent mudguards, a frayed saddle, worn handlebar tape, drop handlebars, pannier rack. Dorky. But its brakes work, it rides smoothly, it’s well-maintained and does everything I want it to do (except look cute/maccho/cool – sigh!). I have ridden it most days since I bought it and park it using a simple cable lock. And I still have it.

James-T-Kirk 7:10 am 01 Jun 10

Sianlee – it’s not lazy, it’s financial – there effort in recovering any stolen property greatly outweighs the potential revenue from the activity. It is far better to have cops patrolling the street making money than identifying lost bikes….

On the subject of model T’s – at least they don’t blow tyres every 20km….

Inspections? What are they? The last inspections I remember were when the failed mechanics at Dickson kept telling me to REMOVE the seatbelts from my 62 ford – they were not factory fitted……. In this state, I can drive whatever heap of ^%$&^^ I want to, and nobody inspects it….

sianlee 1:44 pm 31 May 10

My Son goes to Lyneham High and it does not suprise me that there are children from the School stealing, I’ve heard from the principal that the year 10 Children are stealing etc and to try and keep my son away from a certain group before they lead him into trouble. I can tell you right now, If my son came home with a new bike, I would call the police myself and check that it was not stolen and then drag the little sod up to the cop shop with the bike if it was. What is wrong with PARENTS!

I am amazed at how the School can call me to tell me my Child is not wearing colour code but not help the police and citzens identify these children. I guess the cops are either too busy to care or just don’t care. I am not sure which, but My Sister inlaw who is a cop says their just lazy!

surly-owner 11:57 am 24 May 10

Here is a link to a picture of a grey Surly Cross Check with black rack and black mudguards, very similar to the one which was stolen in Dickson last Monday evening:
Picture of Surly Cross Check

Davo111 10:03 am 24 May 10

It would be much easier if you “tinypic” a photo so everyone can see it. That way more of the community can keep an eye out.

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