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The thieves have been at it…

By Blingerific - 19 May 2010 54

News from various mates is that Monday evening saw a number of bikes stolen from Dickson in what seems to be a fairly organised hit. These aren’t cheap bikes, nor were they left without being secured. The locks (many of which were good quality locks) were cut and the helmets were often left behind.

If you saw something, give Crimestoppers a call and say something. One of the missing bikes is a blue Kona Jake the Snake that was stolen from outside Woolies between 7.15 and 7.40pm. Unfortunately I left the details for the other bikes at work but a number were stolen from out the front of the gymnasium (near the Dickson Tradies car park) around the same time.

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The thieves have been at it…
SmileOnTrial 11:29 am 20 May 10

avirusconspires said :

I had my bike stolen from Downer on Sunday night.

We have a really good idea who was behind all this, through talking to bike shops. It’s a group of kids from Lyneham High School who are apparently well known around this area for bike theft.

Good on em. Thats a whole bunch of lycra warriors off the road for a while. Bike’s are for childeren anyway.

niftydog 11:05 am 20 May 10

Grrrr said :

Haven’t seen any D-locks with an Abloy key mechanism – do they exist?

Yes. My Kryptonite D lock is one example.

Snarky said :

The concept of bicycle security really is illusory these days.

All you can hope for is to make your bike look less attractive to thieves than the other bikes around it.

blueberry 10:41 pm 19 May 10

A friend of mine had around 6 bikes stolen from their house last week. They were lucky enough to find all bar one of them dumped on an oval near by. So it is defenatly worth going for a look around some places in their area that they may have been dumped.

Apparently somebody else they know also had the same thing happen and there bike was found in the same place.

avirusconspires 9:51 pm 19 May 10

I had my bike stolen from Downer on Sunday night.

We have a really good idea who was behind all this, through talking to bike shops (Mal Adjusted have been especially helpful). It’s a group of kids from Lyneham High School who are apparently well known around this area for bike theft. Mal from Mal Adjusted knows the group very well (they have apparently smashed his shop windows in the past), and has banned them from the store.

I’ve put up a bunch of posters detailing my bike but they’ve been torn down. They even had the gall to reply to my “thanks for taking my primary source of transportation” footnote, with “no worries c*nt”. They have been seen riding my bike around through Dickson in two days in a row, though I am yet to see it myself.

All discussion with police has been pretty fruitless, though they have been very sympathetic.

The details of my bike are: Giant Bowery fixed gear. Matte grey in colour, decal-free, black forks, black stays, black drop bars, front brake only. Please let me know if you hear of anything.

I wish everyone who lost bikes to these little shits the best of luck in recovering your property.

surly-owner 8:34 pm 19 May 10

Another of the missing bikes is a grey Surly Cross Check, which was taken from outside the gym between 6:45pm and 7:50pm on the same night. The thick, but obviously inadequate cable was cut neatly though. Another cut-through cable lock and a helmet were discarded in a nearby skip. Apparently, some of the stolen bikes were spotted being brazenly ridden in the Dickson shops area on Tuesday.

Snarky 8:30 pm 19 May 10

The concept of bicycle security really is illusory these days. It takes so little effort to knock off a string of bikes if you really want to, no matter what lock or chain.

See here for one set of reasons if you’d like to simultaneously scare yourself witless and end up in black depression.

🙁

Blingerific 6:33 pm 19 May 10

The types of locks defeated were various, a few were taken so NFI about how they were broken but a mate says his lock was “either hacked with a saw or multiple cuts with sharp bolt cutters”.

The better the lock the more effort the thieving idiot needs to defeat it, Grrr have given a good rundown already. There is also less chance they’ll try it outside a busy area (though you wonder sometimes) and there is also a much higher chance they’ll damage the object said lock secures.

Maybe Woolies should fess up that the “Warning: This area may be under video surveillance” are nothing more than signs. False feeling of security and all that…

Grrrr 5:42 pm 19 May 10

Security is always about money and time. More money means less time (but let’s not start a philosophical debate on capitalism.)

I’m sure that your made up statistic of 90% is true for – say – locks of all types, on bikes parked at ANU. I like to think current model D-locks in the market place fare a little better.

What’s a tunsten lock? I haven’t heard of them.

Haven’t seen any D-locks with an Abloy key mechanism – do they exist? Abloy locks may be great but they aren’t perfect – they can be gained entry to with a Falle Decoder. Also, padlocks aren’t a very suitable form factor for a bike.

shiny flu 5:07 pm 19 May 10

Kryptonite New York and Abus Granit + are the most thief resistant U-locks. Alternatively Kryptonite New York Chain.

However it all depends on how you lock your bike. Lock as high off the ground as possible, fill the lock as much as possible (front wheel + pole + down tube/rear wheel + seat tube + pole) and maybe add a cable or cable lock on the front wheel – even if you’re smart and don’t use a quick release – since it’s just more hassle for the thief.

General rule of thumb is that if it takes longer than 5 minutes to defeat, the thief will move on.

PBO 4:20 pm 19 May 10

Grrrr said :

I never said any lock was theft proof. Of course any lock can be defeated given enough time and money – security is always a trade-off.

You also say which D-lock you were talking about there, and the implication that it’s “any d-lock” is way off the mark.

Not a matter of money, just time. And would have to say that you are right in the sense that it is not all d-locks, but it is roughly 90% of d-locks as they come up with new ones all the time.

Get a tunsten lock with an abloy key and you should be right.

Grrrr 3:49 pm 19 May 10

s/You also say/You also don’t say/

Grrrr 3:47 pm 19 May 10

PBO said :

A d-lock can be opened with a car jack, coke can, hammer, bolt cutters as well as some pen casings. If a person wants what is locked up then they are usually going to get it because a lock is not neccesarily a theft proof device, it merely slow down the culprit.

I never said any lock was theft proof. Of course any lock can be defeated given enough time and money – security is always a trade-off.

You also say which D-lock you were talking about there, and the implication that it’s “any d-lock” is way off the mark.

Car jacks can’t open locks that they can’t fit into to leverage. Coke cans (presumably used as shims to leverage bolts securing on the u-bolt) don’t work if the bolts are deadlocked, not spring operated. Quality D-locks locks take a long time with pretty big hammer to open them – too long for a thief to get away with in most places. Bolt cutters would have to be bigger than any I’ve seen (and I’m not claiming to have seen any record breakingly large ones) to get through the larger steel U-bolts (EG 13mm+ ones.) Pen casings often work on axial locks, but virtually all lock makers stopped using axial locks after that weakness became widely known in ~2004.

I think a half decent D-Lock is better protection than you imply, and that’s I why I’m keen to know make and model, etc, of the locks broken by our local thieves.

PBO 2:47 pm 19 May 10

Grrrr said :

“Good Quality Locks were cut” Were they D-locks? If so, what make and model? Were they cut through the U-bolt section, or the end shackle? Cut with powertools, or just hand tools? Were any locks picked or drilled?

Enquiring bike lock owners want to know. I’ve just stopped using an (I think, hard-to-break) Onguard Brute cause it’s too bloody heavy. It’s been replaced by something else sold with “Sold Secure Silver” rating. I’m interested in whether it’s cheaper, lighter replacement is any good.

PS: Locks with cylindrical (axial) keys suck. Cable locks suck. Locks sold “for use in low-crime areas” suck.

A d-lock can be opened with a car jack, coke can, hammer, bolt cutters as well as some pen casings. If a person wants what is locked up then they are usually going to get it because a lock is not neccesarily a theft proof device, it merely slow down the culprit.

Grrrr 2:09 pm 19 May 10

“Good Quality Locks were cut” Were they D-locks? If so, what make and model? Were they cut through the U-bolt section, or the end shackle? Cut with powertools, or just hand tools? Were any locks picked or drilled?

Enquiring bike lock owners want to know. I’ve just stopped using an (I think, hard-to-break) Onguard Brute cause it’s too bloody heavy. It’s been replaced by something else sold with “Sold Secure Silver” rating. I’m interested in whether it’s cheaper, lighter replacement is any good.

PS: Locks with cylindrical (axial) keys suck. Cable locks suck. Locks sold “for use in low-crime areas” suck.

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