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The thief catcher at Supabarn Civic

By loopol - 18 April 2012 70

Last night’s ‘A Current Affair’ featured a story about ‘thief catcher’ Shane who has made a name for himself spoting shoplifters in supermarkets. 

The story saw him parked outside Civic’s Superbarn supermarket, where he caught out a number of shoplifters from a variety of walks of life. 

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The thief catcher at Supabarn Civic
threepaws 1:14 pm 18 Apr 12

thehutch said :

It is my understanding that Security guards have the same powers of any citizen. If they witness a crime, they are able to detain someone but have to call the police as soon as practicable after the event.

There is nothing stopping them from taking the detained person elsewhere, but the person would have to be willing to go (it’s probably better to deal with the police out of public view as opposed to out the front of supabarn). So if you got detained, you could refuse to go back but they could detain you where you are until the police arrive… including the use of reasonable force (which should be avoided).

I’d be interested to hear your definition of ‘reasonable force’ in regards to shoplifting.

What is a proportionate response to shoplifting? I don’t think that any form of physical restraint is an acceptable option for Joe Public who thinks they can ‘hold’ someone ‘under arrest’ until the police arrive. Leave the police work to the cops.

KeenGolfer 1:13 pm 18 Apr 12

Crimes Act 1900, s 218: Power of arrest without warrant by other persons:

(1) A person who is not a police officer may, without warrant, arrest another person if he or she believes on reasonable grounds that the other person is committing or has just committed an offence.
(2) A person who arrests another person under subsection (1) shall, as soon as practicable after the arrest, arrange for the other person, and any property found on the other person, to be delivered into the custody of a police officer.

Ben_Dover 1:11 pm 18 Apr 12

BenMac said :

After just quickly watching the first minute, it appears this guy is trying to impersonate himself as a police officer.

That’s easy, I’m really good at impersonating myself.

BenMac said :

He flashes a badge and even states to the shoplifter before police arrive that they are under arrest.

He shows them his ID, which identifies him as a member of store security, and asks them to go with him.

Myles Peterson said :

One wrongful arrest will financially wipe out 1,000 “successful grabs.”

But only the police have power of arrest, and seeing as this geezer calls the cops multiple times a day, do you not think the police would be onto him if he was doing anything illegal of dodgy?

thehutch 12:56 pm 18 Apr 12

It is my understanding that Security guards have the same powers of any citizen. If they witness a crime, they are able to detain someone but have to call the police as soon as practicable after the event.

There is nothing stopping them from taking the detained person elsewhere, but the person would have to be willing to go (it’s probably better to deal with the police out of public view as opposed to out the front of supabarn). So if you got detained, you could refuse to go back but they could detain you where you are until the police arrive… including the use of reasonable force (which should be avoided).

DeskMonkey 12:35 pm 18 Apr 12

Erg0 said :

I expect that he’d only need to show that he had reasonable grounds to suspect you’d committed a crime (assuming it works the same as for police).

He’s not a police officer or a security guard. Does he have the right to lay a hand on people, flash a badge in their face and demand that they go with him into the back room.

trickyxr said :

Why? the story wasnt about innocent people

No it wasn’t but unless he proves to me that he is acting lawfully in apprehending the guilty then why should I put up with someone being high and mighty, a “professional shoplifting catcher”…thats what cops and security guards are for.

dpm 12:17 pm 18 Apr 12

DeskMonkey said :

I have a mind to go in there and act suspiscious then take him to court for harrasment

Hahahaha! It’s amazing what things wind some people up to the point they’d go out of their way to waste their own time to make a point about a trivial issue!
Go for it and let us know how it goes! Gotta fight ‘the man’! Hahahaha! 🙂

Ben_Dover 12:16 pm 18 Apr 12

Good on him for catching thieves.

Erg0 12:08 pm 18 Apr 12

DeskMonkey said :

I have a mind to go in there and act suspiscious then take him to court for harrasment

I expect that he’d only need to show that he had reasonable grounds to suspect you’d committed a crime (assuming it works the same as for police).

trickyxr 12:06 pm 18 Apr 12

DeskMonkey said :

I have a mind to go in there and act suspiscious then take him to court for harrasment

Why? the story wasnt about innocent people

DeskMonkey 11:57 am 18 Apr 12

I have a mind to go in there and act suspiscious then take him to court for harrasment

Myles Peterson 11:37 am 18 Apr 12

One wrongful arrest will financially wipe out 1,000 “successful grabs.”

This guy is a legal time-bomb waiting to happen. A smart crook will get themselves grabbed when they’re carrying nothing and game over. If I was his boss, I’d sack him or at the very least put him through an intense loss-prevention course run by real cops.

BenMac 11:26 am 18 Apr 12

After just quickly watching the first minute, it appears this guy is trying to impersonate himself as a police officer.

He flashes a badge and even states to the shoplifter before police arrive that they are under arrest.

I’m not condoning shoplifting in anyway cause it does leave a lot of big, and most times small stores out of pocket, but if this guy grabs you, you don’t have to go with him. All he can do is keep you in the area til police arrive.

VeryMildSuperPowers 10:58 am 18 Apr 12

So thats who that prick was. I was getting a coffee from the Muffin Break out the front of Supabarn and checked this guy eye balling me. Carried on minding my own business. Then I feel my backpack get pushed off my shoulder, turn around, and there he is with that blonde bird in tow. I’m about to say something like “you right?” and they walk off.

Erg0 10:55 am 18 Apr 12

Well, there you go. I was mildly curious after seeing the ad, as he seemed to be physically restraining people as he nabbed them (i.e. grabbing them from behind), which I understood to be beyond the powers of a security guard.

spooner 10:42 am 18 Apr 12

THAT GUY. I thought he was just a bogan perv.

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