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The Woden Tradies parking massacre rolls on

By johnboy - 12 June 2013 19

This in from a source at the Health Department:

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So those who prepaid should be alright.

But one does have to wonder at the ballsup.


Just an update for those still interested in what’s going on:

UPDATE

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The Woden Tradies parking massacre rolls on
HiddenDragon 11:07 am 13 Jun 13

Without wanting to pick, unduly, on DoHA (noting that similar things presumably happen in other Departments, regardless of how many Dep Secs they are blessed with) it would be interesting to know how much it cost to produce that message to staff. The legwork was presumably done by somewhat less august (although probably still very nicely paid) staff, and then there would have been some sort of clearance process before it could be issued in the name of someone at that level.

Noting Madam Cholet’s news about the site, it will be equally interesting to know if there are tenants signed up for the new office tower.

longshanks 9:21 am 13 Jun 13

Ian said :

Deputy Secretaries seem to be a dime a dozen at DOHA. There appears to be 6 of them. Clearly the efficiency dividend is not cutting deep enough there.

At 30 June 2012, DOHA had 9 SES band 3 and 30 SES band 2 for over 5000 staff. Compare this to the treasury, which currently has 6 SES band 3 and around 20 SES band 2 for under 1000 staff. And yet the treasury secretary was telling senate estimates last week about how hard it was going to be to stick to the staffing budget for 2013-14.

Madam Cholet 8:38 am 13 Jun 13

This carpark is slated for development – a 28 storey office building I believe. Just wondering where the 200 people who park in this area will go when it is under development and also where all the construction workers will park. Has the government insisted that the developers submit provisions for managing this when it happens? Did they insist that the new development have extra parking spaces to accommodate these poor lost souls once it’s all done and dusted?

I park in a carpark in Civic (on the one day I drive), which is also under threat of development. It probably accommodates about 1000 cars at least. Wondering where we will all go when that day comes. In my experience, private carparks with development applications are not well maintained. The one I use is frequently littered with glass and the trees grow into the parking spaces.

Roundhead89 1:18 am 13 Jun 13

Ian said :

Deputy Secretaries seem to be a dime a dozen at DOHA. There appears to be 6 of them. Clearly the efficiency dividend is not cutting deep enough there.

Reminds me of when I was in high school just after the ACT broke away from NSW in the early 1970s. We suddenly had three deputy principals, one for staff, one for students and one to deal with the bureaucrats.

Ian 10:58 pm 12 Jun 13

Deputy Secretaries seem to be a dime a dozen at DOHA. There appears to be 6 of them. Clearly the efficiency dividend is not cutting deep enough there.

HiddenDragon 10:07 pm 12 Jun 13

Pork Hunt said :

LSWCHP said :

MERC600 said :

Cor blimey .. don’t he look young to be a Dep Sec,,, or is it the same thing as “don’t the policemen look younger these days than they used to” .

Nope. He looks very, young for a gig like that. I wonder how competent he is. Based on my dealings with those who rise to the top quickly, I suspect not very, but I’d like to be proved wrong.

A lateral thinker might suggest its not the most recent photo of him. 🙂
Check out out Reps here http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Members/Members_Photos
Anthony Albanese’s photo looks like its from his high school yearbook…

Mr Stuart is doubtless a splendid chap, and every bit as boyishly chipper as that happy snap would suggest, but the whole thing has a distinct Politburo feel about it.

thatsnotme 9:25 pm 12 Jun 13

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

Unusual how a private operator uses a Pay and Display system.
Surely boom gated parking (pay on exit) would solve all parking issues.
Have no idea why the ACT Govt doesn’t consider pay on exit – no need for parking inspectors!
Motorists who purchase pre paid parking can be issued a pass to gain entry without taking a ticket. European cities even have a phone scanner on entry columns (e-ticket is displayed on your phone screen)
But of course ACT Govt does not like to move into the future.

I think the ACT Government is moving away from operating paid parking, having realised that those large slabs of land that existing surface parking lots occupy are worth more money sold to developers than they are to government run business. I think that the government would be perfectly happy if all parking, apart from on-street parking, was privately operated, and I think this is the way they’re going.

So it makes sense that they’re not investing in better solutions to actually paying for parking – it’s an investment that doesn’t have a future.

It’s not like Government run parking is always a better deal than private car parks anyway. I can park in City West, undercover, for $10/12 a day (depending on what time I leave), with the option to pay with coins, cash, or credit card. I don’t pretend to know what long stay parking is like in the other town centres, but at least in the city all I’ve seen are inconvenient, above ground car parks replaced with undercover, convenient car parks. I’ve also never seen my car park fill up.

Pork Hunt 9:22 pm 12 Jun 13

LSWCHP said :

MERC600 said :

Cor blimey .. don’t he look young to be a Dep Sec,,, or is it the same thing as “don’t the policemen look younger these days than they used to” .

Nope. He looks very, young for a gig like that. I wonder how competent he is. Based on my dealings with those who rise to the top quickly, I suspect not very, but I’d like to be proved wrong.

A lateral thinker might suggest its not the most recent photo of him. 🙂
Check out out Reps here http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Members/Members_Photos
Anthony Albanese’s photo looks like its from his high school yearbook…

LSWCHP 8:55 pm 12 Jun 13

MERC600 said :

Cor blimey .. don’t he look young to be a Dep Sec,,, or is it the same thing as “don’t the policemen look younger these days than they used to” .

Nope. He looks very, young for a gig like that. I wonder how competent he is. Based on my dealings with those who rise to the top quickly, I suspect not very, but I’d like to be proved wrong.

La_Tour_Maubourg 7:13 pm 12 Jun 13

Unusual how a private operator uses a Pay and Display system.
Surely boom gated parking (pay on exit) would solve all parking issues.
Have no idea why the ACT Govt doesn’t consider pay on exit – no need for parking inspectors!
Motorists who purchase pre paid parking can be issued a pass to gain entry without taking a ticket. European cities even have a phone scanner on entry columns (e-ticket is displayed on your phone screen)
But of course ACT Govt does not like to move into the future.

Antagonist 6:38 pm 12 Jun 13

p1 said :

c_c™ said :

Fancy letterhead for a Deputy Secretary. Delusions of grandeur.

Nah, that is the standard form that DoHA internal comms uses for staff messages. Pretty sure even Dep Secs don’t get any choice in the matter of how these things are presented./quote]

That would make for some seriously ugly messaging!

MERC600 6:18 pm 12 Jun 13

Cor blimey .. don’t he look young to be a Dep Sec,,, or is it the same thing as “don’t the policemen look younger these days than they used to” .

thatsnotme 6:02 pm 12 Jun 13

p1 said :

Does anyone know who owns the physical machines in the parking area? Have they been replaced? If not, doesn’t the ACT Gov managed them (and if so, how are they different from buying a weekly ticket)??

I haven’t been into this parking area, but similar parks in Civic that have become privately owned have retained the existing ticket machines – in all their non-note or card accepting glory. About the only way you can tell it’s privately owned is a company’s name on the terms and conditions sign when you drive in, and the notice that you can’t use pre-paid vouchers at the ticket machines.

I think the new owners have to manage it themselves from that point. My understanding is that they pay for parking inspectors to patrol and issue tickets – not sure whether it’s a case of the owner paying to have them attend, or if they just patrol the park as per normal, and split the fine with the owner. I don’t know if they have a similar arrangement for collecting the money from the ticket machines either.

Whatever the arrangement is though, the new owners are just trying to get as much money out of the land as they can before they develop it – so I’m sure maintenance is kept to the absolute essentials, which isn’t likely to include proper signage that it doesn’t take pre-paid cards. Good to see that a sensible outcome’s occurred.

p1 4:52 pm 12 Jun 13

c_c™ said :

Fancy letterhead for a Deputy Secretary. Delusions of grandeur.

Nah, that is the standard form that DoHA internal comms uses for staff messages. Pretty sure even Dep Secs don’t get any choice in the matter of how these things are presented.

Does anyone know who owns the physical machines in the parking area? Have they been replaced? If not, doesn’t the ACT Gov managed them (and if so, how are they different from buying a weekly ticket)??

c_c™ 4:36 pm 12 Jun 13

Fancy letterhead for a Deputy Secretary. Delusions of grandeur.

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