2 May 2007

Theodore assault

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just catching up on my news and read in the canberra times about the sexual assault in theodore on a poor 16 year old female at 11am!

Is this town getting worse or are the idiots becoming more brazen. probably both.

Hope they catch this guy.

[ED – Or (and this would be a good thing IMHO) are woman getting braver about reporting these things?]

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Silence from Terry? Perhaps he is roving for more news to share… or he’s back in him classroom with the rest of the students?

Hey Vic, surely when you log on to RA the BS meter is dangerously high?

I reckon El’s on the money.

I asked my son who goes to Narrabundah College if he knew about it.

So daddy’s got an Aurion and is in the SES, eh?

The writing style would more closely match a Narrabundah college student – one would guess (and hope) an SES would at the very least know the correct usage of ‘past’ and ‘passed’.

It might also explain why he claims to walk past that area twice a day (rather than driving one of the three Toyotas he claims to own?)

Terry – do you seriously want to know the basic details on everything that happens? If it was explosives/terrorism/drug lab, you’d be pretty sure that it WOULD have made the news. That leaves one obvious conclusion – it wasn’t important! Believe it or not, things happen all the time in Canberra that you don’t need to know about.
If the police/firies/ambos started publishing every little thing they did just for your satisfaction, I’d imagine you’d need a larger paper than the CT (even with its oversized pages).
The only upside would be that you wouldn’t need to ‘widly speculate’ anymore I guess!

Vic Bitterman9:36 pm 05 May 07

But terry, being the 2 month old appointed SES officer with an Aurion as you claim, you would be at work not reporting this to the police???

Maybe, just maybe, my bullshit meter is going off every time you post something here.

I was questioning not attempting to offend. So maybe not your face on the news… do you think you were doing the public a favor? Did you call the radio stations for their ability to immediately disseminate your thoughts of possible terrorism or a dangerous clandestine lab? Why did you wait for them to arrive?

If it had already been reported (emergency services were in attendance after all) what was the need for you to report it?

I think you were doing the wild speculation here.

I am offended by any suggestion that I rang Win News to be on TV. I happened to drive past on the way back from work, saw all the commotion and was directed away around the scene down the side road. I stopped, rang WIN, they sounded very interested and they send some people out. When they arrived, I LEFT.

The news may not have though it important enough to say anything about. But I still think a quick mention of what is twas is important. Some of the people looking on were speculating it could be explosives (ie. terrorism) or a drug lab because they had heard small explosions in the past. One older person even said “they’ll be something on the news” in response to another passing by asking what’s going on.

The point is, unless they give basic details, not how much or what exactly, just was it a drug lab, weapons cache or bomb factory, then at least we will know and it should stop wild speculation.

What on earth is RM going on about. What was the story I invented? I am not aware of any story let alone an invented one.

Perhaps he/she is referring to DJ,s story about the AFP providing information to the Canberra Times but the paper refusing to publish it.

No doubt this could happen with “boring” news, but not for a “sexual attack”.

Thanks the heavens for Terry. Three cheers all round! Why did you call them? Did they offer you money or your face on TV? I saw a fire truck on Braddon the other day – QUICK, CALL WIN!…there could be a meth lab in Mort Street…. make sure you check under the bed and every lock in your house three times before you go to sleep.

If there was a dangerous situation you would have been told. Period. In anticipation of the mountain of BS that is going to be posted about not being told anything by the AFP – get over it or get help. If you can’t then describe, in minute detail, when you were placed DIRECTLY at risk from not being told something by the AFP in your suburb. Now is the time for less hypothetical rubbish and some hard facts to back your claims….

Terry,

Why dont we just get the AFP to install one of their computers in your house so you can decide what is of public interest and what not! Better yet why dont you apply for the job as the head of AFP media relations?

correction: i rang win news, not i range them.

You know why Win News was there… because I range them. Talked to a woman in the news room who quizzed me about what was going on. When I said handcuffs, she said in a loud and excited tone… “you mean there are people handcuffed!” I said “no, but the cops have them out”. She sounded so disappointed. Wind News arrived five minutes later.

DJ, yes I don’t live in that street. But I walk passed there twice a day. So when I see guys in Hazchem suits walking into the house 20 metres from me, and a hose running into the house (on the tv show The Force the showed a drug bust, the fire briage were called to water down possibly explosive chemicals) I would want to know. Win News turned up, no good picture just fire bridge in pink/red hazchem suits so they spoke for five minutes to the cops and left. Never made the news, but neither did the high speed chase through Banks five weeks ago, or the brawl at the Lanyon Market Place in March where around a dozen police anda dozen schools kids were having a big argument over who punched who.

Oh and about the siren. I mean the flashing blue and red strobes were on the dashboard. My mistake, I stupidly call the whole package (lights and all) sirens.

‘its someone she knew but they just don’t have enough evidence to convict. And that they were waiting for the said person to make a mistake’

Maybe the AFP should sit down with our very progressive Attorney-General Ruddock, and work out an interview plan which may consist of sleep deprivation to assist this individual to cooperate

Note that they caught the Casino taxi rapist very quickly this week, following the publicity in the media that compelled a witness to come forward.

its not david eastman is it

Nah, they’re too busy trying to fit him up for Fagan’s death.

its not david eastman is it ?

“the public know almost nothing about who killed Kathryn Grosvenor way back in 02.”

I heard a while ago that there is a suspect and its someone she knew but they just don’t have enough evidence to convict. And that they were waiting for the said person to make a mistake or something like that anyway.

Ignorance shall make ye rich?

I don’t want to know about how many drug busts are going on in my suburb, it might lower house prices >.

I mean the whole ‘fire trucks and ambulance’ thing, not the assault (the morbid curiosity bit).

I think I would like to know about any assaults that are still unsolved in my local area. So if the offender is still out there, then I think we have the right to know (and the police do issue warnings, like for the serial rapist in aranda&cook).

If some one is charged over an assault, then is there a need for the public to be told the sordid details?

Slightly off topic, it still bugs me that we, the public know almost nothing about who killed Kathryn Grosvenor way back in 02. I did not followed the inquest etc (and I’m not saying the police are holding anything back they can’t by law release), but I wish we could get closure on that one.

For once I have to agree with DJ, the media will only print things that will sell (I’m a cynic).

Still the AFP’s media release web page is always an option.

But why do people want to know every detail of every bad thing that happens in their suburb/city?

Is it some kind of morbid curiosity? Like driving really slow past a big high way smash to see if you can see a body bag?

TB, usual rant perhaps but tell me something, who decides what is news worthy? If the CT and WIN etc get information that don’t think will gain ratings will they air it?

Terry_wrist – what business was it of yours? You don’t know the residents do you? Live in the street and couldn’t drive through? I hear lots of speculation and no real reason to justify providing details. If the incident was an accident or a suicide or something else why do you need to know? Go on, give me the “I have a right to know where my tax payers dollars get spent” argument – I’ll probably need to put on BA myself to deal with the stench from it.

Your “We can’t really rely on the police to get news out reliably” effort is pathetic. What would you know. I saw above that Teddy Bear was wondering how I might know about things… how would cranky, yourself, terry and the others know differently?

Speculate all you like – I’m doing it too and trying to sew the seed of doubt just like you are. I’ve yet to see proof of any of the rubbish some people come up with. Just because I don’t go for the conspiracy theory’s and the anti-authority line doesn’t mean I am wrong.

It’s easier to sell papers/news with speculation than the truth. Ask Jack.

I heard that Narabundah was one of those things the media don’t report one, i.e. suicide. Why the need to have fire trucks with BA gear, might have been there a while and no smell or look to good.

Yeah, kids from Narrabundah College are a known reliable source of information. WIN news was there, but it didn’t make the news. Gee, maybe it wasn’t newsworthy!
Teddy bear, why not call WIN news to get the REAL story instead of one you’ve invented.
I can see what you’d like – the police tell the public everything, and then they decide if they should’ve been told!

DJ making his usual rant against the Canberra Times and Jack Waterford. I must try and find out whether his claim that the AFP provides information but the Canberra Times refuses to print it.

What kind of information is DJ talking about and how does he know all this?

I thought the siren assembly itself would be located under-bonnet behind the grille.

Methamphetamine lab could be one possibility.

I dont think I would want to be in an unmarked cop car with a siren on the dashboard – damn that would be loud.

What is going on.

That now makes 3 sexual assaults on girls aged 10-16 in Canberra in the last month. Well, three that have been in the media that is. We can’t really rely on the police to get news out reliably.

After all, unless I missed something, there was no mention of why fire brigade, police and ambulance crews were in Strezleki Cr in Griffith yesterday. I don’t think it is too normal around Canberra for a road to be blocked by police in unmarked cars (with sirens on their dash boards), three fire trucks (1 Scania tanker, 1 Breathing Apparatus Support Unit and the Hazchem Responce Truck) and an ambulance.

Seriously, not one word about why firemen in hazcem suits were entering a house and why detectives were walking around looking in bushes and questioning people. I asked my son who goes to Narrabundah College if he knew about it. He said a lot of them saw the trucks driving up there and when they went to look, a few people knew who lived in the house. The house belonged to a known drug dealer who in one kids’s words was “totally screwed”. I think you guys would want to know if a drug lab next to your house was raided while you were at work? These things have a tendency to blow up afterall!

Oh god. I’m a 16 year old female, who lives in the next suburb from there.. (and i read the article. Errgh, im staying away from theodore now..and i thought it was a nice and quiet suburb?!?)

JB,

As noted, I can’t refer to individual cases, but suffice that there were three AFP stories of minor interest that were reported in the CT over the weekend that I considered would not previously have made it into print.

DJ, I have to illustrate the lack of logic in your arguement. Here we have Waterford bellyaching about the lack of information provided by the local AFP regarding Canberra centric crime, and you are opining that the CT has received this information, but has chosen not to publish it. Not logical! Far more logical that the AFP has been remiss in the past to providing this information.

I have no interest in promoting the CT, but I am happy enough with the content and priorities. I am astounded by the politics of other mainstream newspapers, and can only be amazed that there are enough readers with complimentary views within their extended readership to support their circulation.

can’t say I’ve noticed any increase in useful media releases on the AFP website.

Cranky, I guess nobody has thought of this already, and it wasn’t going to come from the CT (or RA) but perhaps there hasn’t been an increase, or a healthy wad as you describe. Perhaps they are actually benefiting from a change of ownership and are actually doing their jobs and printing the stories they were provided by the AFP.

Why does everybody have the blinkers on and go with the notion that the CT could do no wrong and that the AFP are the bully’s here?

Waterford vindicated? You’re joking aren’t you? With any luck he’ll leave soon with a very heavy and empty heart – he should have trouble sleeping at night for a very very long time. Canberra would be better off without him spreading his brand of poison.

Todays CT reports that the AFP media unit coordinator, a Daryl Webb, has been “moved to a different post”. This statement was wrapped up in so much spin I am still giddy. He is apparently currently on leave.

This may explain the impression I got over the weekend that the CT was receiving a very healthy wad of stories from the AFP, to the point where I wondered if the media unit were’nt trying to overload the system. Sorry, the papers have gone out, so I can’t back this up with chapter and verse.

Perhaps it does indicate a changing of the guard? Perhaps Waterford is vindicated?

I wonder if it has anything to do with the crime rate in Theodore going up, since the release of a couple of juvenile deviants in the suburb lately?

Another possibility is that the AFP might have finally have decided to share some information about what’s always been happening with the rest of us.

Unlikely, but just a thought.

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