23 December 2010

Tools throwing rocks

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Last night (wednesday night) while looking at the christmas lights along knoke avenue in gordon at about 9:40 some kid looking about 15 without a shirt on, light hair and light possibly tan shorts, and fairly big muscles for a kid of his age, riding a scooter with about 4 other people stood out in the middle of the road and stopped the traffic and looked like he did something to the front of a hilux (suprised the hilux driver didnt run him over).

Then about 20 mins later a bit further down the road we were driving along and the tool pelted a rock at the car.

I didnt have time to stop as there were other cars behind us and I doubt the police would have done anything.

So if you go out to the lights in gordon with your family keep an eye out for him as he seems like a trouble maker and is probably a local to the area seeing as he was riding a scooter.

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Stevian said :

Ben_Dover said :

I have the answer to rock throwing moron scum!!

SAN DIEGO (AP) — San Diego police say a 16-year-old boy throwing rocks at a sport utility vehicle was struck by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CROSSBOW_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-30-11-06-29

But what is your answer to crossbow firing moron scum

Pat on the back?

Ben_Dover said :

I have the answer to rock throwing moron scum!!

SAN DIEGO (AP) — San Diego police say a 16-year-old boy throwing rocks at a sport utility vehicle was struck by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CROSSBOW_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-30-11-06-29

But what is your answer to crossbow firing moron scum

I have the answer to rock throwing moron scum!!

SAN DIEGO (AP) — San Diego police say a 16-year-old boy throwing rocks at a sport utility vehicle was struck by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CROSSBOW_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-30-11-06-29

Violence is not required, but putting the fear into them is. My neighbourhood recently had a spate of kids (aged 10 – 11) doing a bit of vandalism and trespassing on the way home from school. We contacted the school (who told them that they had been reported), plus I and a couple of others bailed up the offenders, took their photos and told them that the next incident would be referred to the cops, complete with photos.

The problem went away. Immediately.

I have no idea what sort of homes they come from, and couldn’t care less. The point is, they discovered that there were people who witnessed what they were doing, and that serious consequences were in the pipeline.

Personally I blame JOhn Howard

Fools ! You are missing the point.
This is clearly another case of child vilification. Some of these comments are abhorrent.
How do we know that the child has not come from a family cycle of abuse?. What about the rights of the child?. This child needs to be protected as he is the future of our society. His needs and wants need to be addressed immediately.
Questions should be asked, Why is this child acting in this way? Is he bored? Does he feel envious of those more fortunate than himself?. Perhaps we should ensure that children like this are cherished. They have enough welfare to drive in nice cars rather than the scooter.

How about we look at the driver of those cars. What right do they have to complain?. So what if your car is damaged. Thats why you are on large salaries so you can affort to fix them. So what if your car is damaged. Its only a car and this talk about retribution is criminal.

How do we know that the child isnt offender by the christmas lights and the notion of christmas. How dare we impose a form on religion on him. Perhaps he follows another religion. Has anyone thought to respect his version of religion?

I do concur with your like “I doubt the police would have done anything”. Why should we involve the police. This young man would only be charged and perhaps be ordered to repay his damage. How will that help this young man with such a burden of debt. Surely we can afford to forget about some damage to our possessions for the sake of infringing on the rights of a young person?

YOu people need to wake up.

holy shit – i can’t believe the absolute nonsense this post has generated – some chap is worried about having a dint in his car, and we have moved into the arena of assault/sexual assault of a child – get a grip people – of course he shouldn’t throw rocks at cars, but regardless of what he did/does, all these posts about becoming some sort of gay clint eastwood and beating/inserting/killing/running over a child are absurd – take your macho hands of it for a second fellas, and go back to basics: a child (yes, a child) does something wrong – either the parents and/or the state (including the police) should react/respond, not you – sure, maybe he should be charged, maybe he shouldn’t, but all this “i’m going to teach him a lesson with my own strong, manly, hands and the world will be safe again” posturing is pathetic – given all nonsense that i have read here, i actually hope that he does manage a bullseye and manages to knock a scrip of paint of one of your oh-so-precious cars, and that you get out your car and un-zip your pants (or whatever you were hoping to do to the 15 year old boy), and then you end up being being charged – i imagine canberra will be a safer and kinder place

Beserk Keyboard Warrior2:23 pm 24 Dec 10

When someone like that young turd aggrieved me, I used to punch them in the face. Then I decided that was cruel. Now I punch them in the chest/stomach area and you know what? I haven’t been charged with assault since.

How did rocks turn into rum, sodomy and the lash?

Pommy bastard11:40 am 24 Dec 10

PB its children throwing rocks. Possibly a teenager. I’m starting to doubt you actually know what scum is.

fgzk it’s was , according to the OP a ; “kid looking about 15 without a shirt on, light hair and light possibly tan shorts, and fairly big muscles for a kid of his age.”

Does a rock thrown at a moving vehilce cause less damage, or have less injurous or even fatal effect, depending on the age of the scum throwing it?

I’ll say it again; any young thug who heaves a rock at my car, whether for kicks, out of malice or due to them having a “grim family situation,” is going to spend the next few months eating through a straw. If my family are in the car with me when they do this, they’ll be lucky to be able to walk for the whole of 2011.

Now then, back to your imaginary world of ignoring adults and picture reviews you go…

You have. Suggesting it is our wish to see kids abused and sodomised this Christmas, is extreme. And yes, I do worry about protecting my car. I also take care in protecting my property and my family. It’s natural human instinct.

“you’ve exxaggerated this kid bashing thing to the extreme.”

Have I. You just worry about protecting your car. Wouldn’t want you to be out of pocket this festive season.

I’m always satisfied with doing the right thing.

fgzk, all well and good to take the high and mighty approach.. you’ve exxaggerated this kid bashing thing to the extreme. No one is saying ‘kids are bad and should be bashed or abused’. They’re saying ‘hell, if that happened to me, I’d probably want to react that way’. I know I wouldn’t actually get out and chase some kid down, but I’m sure if someone did, then he wouldn’t do it again. I’d still be keen to hear how you would have handled the situation. And when you did call the police, and they didn’t show up, and you copped a $400 bill to repair your bonnet, would you be satisfied by the fact that you did the ‘right thing’?

georgesgenitals8:46 am 24 Dec 10

fgzk – seek help.

Its Christmas and most of you will get your wishes. Children will be told they are scum. That they are no good crims. That they are bad. Children will be bashed. Children will be sodomised. These things will actually happen. So you should all take some comfort that your ideas are actually being expressed for you.

Merry christmas
Jimbop, gg, EvanJames, VanH ,PB ,ludwig, holditz and C Waaf

Its Ok, it mostly happens to the “scum”.

Happy New year.

Pandy its funny isn’t it. Hitting kids. Its good too because it helped you.

So you where hit only the once? Was it an ongoing thing, where you hit every week? Every time you did something wrong, were you punched in the face? Did strange adults get out of cars and punch you? Did the Adults in your life think they had a right to hit you?

Bring a little context to your story?

Has your partner ever taken a restraining order out against you?

I was belted for being a brate. Made me stop and think. Never did out again.

I would club the kid. No ifs, no butts.

“It’s all well and good saying that the cops don’t have ESP, but I’ve seen quite a few times where cops have been called at the time of such an incident (no ESP required then) and they haven’t done a thing about it. “

And I’ve got 21 years of very good evidence of when they have done something about it

The rock was obviously an accessory to the crime, therefore insertion is justified.

PB its children throwing rocks. Possibly a teenager. I’m starting to doubt you actually know what scum is.

A 10mW laser from 100m should do the trick.

What has the poor rock done to deserve an anal insertion?

The is *no way* you can justify assaulting a kid for petty criminal activity. Sure, something needs to be done – but assaulting a 15YO??? I’d like to see one of you guys, that are all talk, actually have the opportunity to do what you’ve stated above… x5 15 YO? Yeah – good luck with winning that one… (and it would make YOU the criminal).

Report it to the police (at the time); the local police would usually be well aware of the little drop kicks in their area, and it was obvious they were there 20 minutes after the first incident; they’d probably be there 20 mins later too… If you had the opportunity to hang around and wait for the cops so you could identify the offenders and make a witness statement, even better… You could even tell the police you threaten violence to the kids, and see how fast they arrive then…

Pommy bastard5:30 pm 23 Dec 10

suffer and tolerate the consequences of abusive behaviour from adults is more like it. Lots of kids are doing it. Your just ignoring it. Worse you take some, over stated, righteous, moral stand and demand punishment. What could you do that is worse, then what’s already happening to them?

Hello? Planet earth calling…

Your evidence for any of this is?

I thought maybe your photos had improved but still with the crap framing and wrong perspective.

And there’s me thinking this was about scum throwing rocks at cars, when all this time it was a photographic critique thread..

GardeningGirl5:29 pm 23 Dec 10

LudwigV +1

Captain RAAF5:00 pm 23 Dec 10

Surprised you haven’t accused the people of wanting to ram the rock up this lads arse of being Paedophiles, fgzk? It’s your standard attack when confronted my the ‘logic’ of the masses!

Gantz I’m only interested in the real stuff.

Of course it’s all very well to say you will mete out divine punishment, but you need to catch the buggers first. So if anyone is up to cruising around the streets of Gordon looking for ne’er do wells be my guest.

First it’s chucking rocks at passing cars at Christmas, next its standing on top of overpasses thinking it’s funny to push boulders down into the traffic. And we all know how that ends.

Brats are brats for whatever reason, but there’s no excuse for them getting away with it. It needs to be dealt with before it gets serious. That said, even if the cops do respond to it, the likelihood in most (minor) cases is that there’s little they can do about it.

For all the ‘think of the children’ crew out there, how would you have reacted had it been your car? And to further speculate, how so if it had shattered a window, or hit a passenger.. etc?

Take a box of rubber bands and flick them all at him next time you see him.

What is wrong with demanding punishment? Also, the parents should hold some share of responsibility, and thus share in the punishment as well – definitely for repeat offenders anyway. I know, I know, all well and good to sit here at the keyboard and say it but enforcing it is another story. A complex situation, to be sure, and each individual case is different. Still…

And just quietly, not all of these little bevans with too much time on their idle hands are the products of ‘grim family situations’ where abuse reigns supreme. Instead they are often the products of a family situation in which there has been no discipline or teaching of ‘consequences for actions’, let alone respect for others and their property. They are allowed to go roaming the streets at all hours of the night and not questioned or called on their behaviour. I guess that is a form of ‘grim situation’, but not from the point of view of these kids. They are loving it…complete freedom and autonomy.

Bring back The Stocks.

So, fgzk, purely hypothetical, if one of these poor troubled souls were to, say, sexual assualt, or worse, commit a murder, it is your belief, with said ‘grim family situation’ that any punishment, vigilante or by the book, be lenient, as the poor children truly know no better?

PB just so you know why.

“Why doe the fact that good, honest, decent, law-abiding people are forced to , often extereme, of these little sh!ts behaviour never play a part in punishment?”

suffer and tolerate the consequences of abusive behaviour from adults is more like it. Lots of kids are doing it. Your just ignoring it. Worse you take some, over stated, righteous, moral stand and demand punishment. What could you do that is worse, then what’s already happening to them?

I thought maybe your photos had improved but still with the crap framing and wrong perspective.

Pommy bastard3:09 pm 23 Dec 10

This Christmas some kids will act up when confronted with abusive adults. Which one are you going to ignore?

Any young thug who heaves a rock at my car, whether for kicks, out of malice or due to them having a “grim family situation,” is going to spend the next few months eating through a straw. If my family are in the car with me when they do this, they’ll be lucky to be able to walk for the whole of 2011.

@Special G,

It’s all well and good saying that the cops don’t have ESP, but I’ve seen quite a few times where cops have been called at the time of such an incident (no ESP required then) and they haven’t done a thing about it.

How do you know they haven’t?

“Perhaps the kid needs a damn good holiday, a cuddle and some reki conselling, on the tax payer’s dollar?”

He doesn’t need to be bashed and sodomised this christmas either.

@Mr Newton, So why should “bad family life” be an excuse?
Its a reason.

This Christmas some kids will act up when confronted with abusive adults. Which one are you going to ignore?

georgesgenitals1:37 pm 23 Dec 10

“Sexual assault? Not that theres anything wrong with that, if thats the sorta stuff youre into doing with these 15 year old boys”

Well played…

@Special G,

It’s all well and good saying that the cops don’t have ESP, but I’ve seen quite a few times where cops have been called at the time of such an incident (no ESP required then) and they haven’t done a thing about it.

@Mr Newton, So why should “bad family life” be an excuse?

georgesgenitals – The solution is to grab the rock he threw, and shove it up his ass. That’s the only form of communication scum like this understand.

Sexual assault? Not that theres anything wrong with that, if thats the sorta stuff youre into doing with these 15 year old boys.

Thumper Do you really think that.
Its ok in some circumstances but not others.

That would be, inciting sexual violence against an under-age rock thrower.

But you may have a point. In some parts of the world its ok to shoot rock throwing kids.

Pommy bastard1:06 pm 23 Dec 10

As unacceptable as his behaviour was, the little fella probably has a pretty grim family situation – hitting the kid (again) won’t change his behaviour, it will probably just make it worse. Of course their need to be consequences fir his behaviour, but assault is not one of them.

Why is it assumed by some that any thug, ner-do-well, bully, criminal or vandal, has had a “grim family situation”?

Why does the fact that many, most even, who have experienced “grim family situations” do not go on to become thugs, ner-do-wells, bullies, criminals or vandals never seem to pierce their delusion.

Why does the fact that most in this day and age have never faced any consequence of their bad actions, due to the soft soap approach demonstrated by Mr Newton, and that this has led to a society where thugs etc have no reference point for consequence, not sink in.

Why doe the fact that good, honest, decent, law-abiding people are forced to suffer and tolerate the consequences, often extereme, of these little sh!ts behaviour never play a part in punishment?

Perhaps the kid needs a damn good holiday, a cuddle and some reki conselling, on the tax payer’s dollar?

You’re a strange one, fgzk.

Above is what vilifying the young looks like. All this homo-erotic and violent language directed at minors. Yuk…………….Why bother.

I love the line – I doubt the police would do anything.

If you don’t call them, then they don’t know about it and of course they won’t do anything about it.

You need to:

At the time call Police – try 131444 – it’s a good start. Not so good 1/2 – 5 hours later as chances of finding them are reduced.

Get a detailed description of the offender – also good to track them down.

Be prepared to stand up in court as a witness.

Police do not possess ESP or any other superpowers to be everywhere at once.

I would of beaten the F*CK out him and then shoved that rock up his clacker and then tell him to have a merry christmas! Little bastards like that should be dealt with. If he tries to stop me then the bullbar on my 4X4 will not hesitate to be utilised!!!!!!!

If he’s riding a scooter with 4 other people it must have a hell of a suspension. They’ll all fall off with luck and break their neck. 🙂

Captain RAAF11:09 am 23 Dec 10

Of course you can run him over, it’s the easiest way to off someone ang get away with it. You simply just didn’t see him, what with it being dark, all the flashing lights etc. Doesn’t have to kill him though, just break his legs, that’ll teach him a lesson.

As unacceptable as his behaviour was, the little fella probably has a pretty grim family situation – hitting the kid (again) won’t change his behaviour, it will probably just make it worse. Of course their need to be consequences fir his behaviour, but assault is not one of them.

StrangeAttractor10:19 am 23 Dec 10

And then do a stretch for assault? Sadly, I’m not in a position to risk that.

Kids growing up without experiencing consequences. I think it is incumbent on all able-bodied males to educate them before it’s too late.

georgesgenitals9:35 am 23 Dec 10

The solution is to grab the rock he threw, and shove it up his ass. That’s the only form of communication scum like this understand.

It’s a bit like that kid who was throwing stuff at cars, and the guy got out, slapped him and smashed his phone. I bet he doesn’t do that again.

Pretty sad world we live in when you can’t even go out chrissie light looking without getting harrassed by trash.

It’s a shame.. you can’t get out and beat the snot out of him.. can’t run over him.. yet you call the cops, and they will/can do little about it.

What *do* you do in a situation like this?

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