8 April 2008

Torch shines a light on shameful hypocrisy

| Ari
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Funnily enough for a man whose Government which pushed through a much heralded Human Rights Act, Chief Minister Jon Stanhope has not had much to say about China’s latest bout of repression in Tibet.

But he is worried about the potential effects of protests in Canberra sparked by the Chinese brutality.

“I haven’t slipped to that level of despair yet,” he said on ABC radio.

“I haven’t got to the point of despairing that the relay won’t be a wonderful celebration of the Olympic games, the Olympic spirit.”

Given that the torch relay was instituted by the Nazis for the 1936 Berlin games, perhaps it is a particularly apt tribute to the Olympic spirit, considering the totalitarian state hosting this year’s extravaganza. The idea chimed perfectly with the Nazi belief that classical Greece was an Aryan forerunner of the modern German Reich.

It is interesting that Stanhope would be in “despair” about protesters pointing out gross human rights abuses.

Perhaps its easier to posture when you’re not confronting a major trading partner. Oh, and of course Canberra and Beijing are sister cities. How sweet.

Stanhope: We had very positive feelings about the opportunities to present Canberra to strengthen our ties with Beijing, sister cities and through that, to celebrate the Olympic spirit, and I guess there’s a level of anxiety now in my breast and I think within the hearts of those involved with the organisation about whether we can achieve those objectives.

In the 7.30 Report item Rob de Castella complains: What I learnt from that is that the Olympics and sport is an easy mark. It’s easily exploited and manipulated by organisations or individuals with different agendas.

How disingenuous. The torch procession was instituted as an innately political act to bolster Hitler’s fantasies of an Aryan brotherhood. So it’s a bit rich to whinge about human rights protesters interrupting the smooth flow of its latest incarnation … a distateful piece of propaganda for the brutal Chinese regime.

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Holierthanthou9:40 am 12 Apr 08

“The torch procession was instituted as an innately political”

and the javelin event started out as an attempt to skewer enemies with a light thrown spear, but we have moved on since.

The character for “genocide”\”wonderful prosperity” looks roughly like the Beijing2008 logo.

Interestingly, Stanhope is now having to shell out “greatly in excess” of the original $900k budget by the ACT for torch security and is looking to get the taxpayer funds to top up the bill as it would be unfair to make the ACT Govt pay for the apparently ‘suprising’ level of security a Chinese icon needs when abroad in a democracy.

RuffnReady, they might want to call it Palawa.

I love that Rudd spoke out about Tibet at a university in China yesterday. The sad thing is that Chinese media is so heavily censored and propagandised that most Chinese don’t know what is really happening to the Tibetans, or if they do they think that the Tibetans are ungrateful and should embrace Chinese “civilisation and culture”. What is the Chinese character for “genocide” again?

It was more of a we don’t talk about that, and you don’t talk about this kind of an analogy.

They might similarly ask if the 400 year carbon offset for chopping down the daintree to plant sugarcane is applied to Australia, or just something we impose on developing countries.

@Thumper – The Chinese similarly don’t have any problems with Australian SAS guarding unidentifiable black boxes in Chinese airports etc, its what we call the new international diplomacy these days.

The press might want to shut-the-fuk-up before their feet become irreversibly stuck in their mouths and we look like a bunch of whitey a$$holes, again.

So far I haven’t seen any good footage of the torch relay.

Perhaps they’ll have to mock some up themselves.

If another sports ‘star’ come on tv and say “don’t mix politics with sport” again I’ll scream!

The Olympics have been all about sport and politics mixing since 1896.

Ingeegoodbee1:13 pm 10 Apr 08

I’m surprised at how many people really believe that sport and politics can be separated or that any sport is infact free of politics.

If Standope was really interested in human rights instead of lip-service to his commie brothers he’d make sure that the torch relay route was locked in and couldn’t be changes so that the Chinese goons can’t run away from protesters and that AFP officers acompanying the torch bearer weat his vz vests with the words “Free Tibet” on them 😉

I would like to think that every comment and action berating China for it’s actions bring forward the day when the problem/attitudes/bloodymindedness cease.

I would like to think that every little bit helps.

I think giving China the olympics is turning out to be a mistake.

Their censorship and tough treatment of their own populations are just not ready for international scrutiny.

I actually support these protesters because they are shoving China’s bad behaviour in everyone’s faces and showing up the hypocrisy of world governments in not holding China accountable to some decent standard of human rights. The Chinese aren’t only suppressing Tibet, they are doing horrific things using child labour in Africa, and even persecuting their own people if they have the wrong beliefs (see Falun Gong).

I think it’s a bad joke that the rest of the world has awarded China the Olympics and continues to pat China on the back whilst they do what they are doing… but then again, I guess that’s just the way the world is. Trade is far more important than anything else.

As previously stated : leave sport to athletes and politics to politicians…

…and rent-a-crowd p-off and stay at home and have a bath with dettol !

For some reason the links in the text are not being highlighted. They still work, though, if you find them.

[Ed. its on the to do list to try and differentiate them a bit more. dark blue and black isnt always easy to tell apart on a dodgy monitor]

Actually, the links aren’t highlighted at all for the abbreviated versions of stories on the main page. You have to open the story before the blue text appears.

At least it’s better than the way Howard/Downer fobbed off pressure to raise human rights issues with China.

Their response was to say nothing publicly and assure us that they would raise concerns behind closed doors.

In terms of accepted diplomatic niceties, speaking out publicly is a bold move by Rudd.

What Rudd says to the sheep in Australia and to his mates behind closed doors in Beijing will be two very different things.

Rudd’s made some strong statements regarding Tibet directly to a Chinese audience in Beijing (and despite protests from Chinese leaders): http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-raises-tibet-rights-issues-in-china/20080409-24s9.html

This is a good thing.

Australia’s plan for Olympic torch security is to just give it to ‘the monkey’ Symonds.

Maybe I should reconsider the offer to carry the torch, might be interesting…

i second neanderthalsis’ sentiments. and it’s all very well to say a passive protest is better – but the reality is that passive protests don’t get the press hence awareness raised that more rowdy (not necessarily violent) ones do…

Jonathon Reynolds1:43 pm 09 Apr 08

For an additional dose of Olympic Torch hypocrisy… add the green house gas emissions in to the mix:

Wired: Olympic Torch Emits 5,500 Tons of CO2
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/04/olympic-torch-e.html

So, they’re from the Chinese Gestapo – great!

Here’s an interesting account of exactly who the “attendants” are (and how they behave): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3671368.ece

Less than a year ago these mysterious “men in blue” were elite students from China’s Armed Police Academy and were selected amid great fanfare to form the grandly titled Sacred Flame Protection Unit.

In China, tens of thousands of their paramilitary colleagues have been deployed across Tibetan areas to restore order during riots, even opening fire when the anti Chinese demonstrations have threatened to run out of control again.

neanderthalsis10:09 am 09 Apr 08

Some gormless twit of a b-grade local celebrity carries a burning stick down the street and we’re all supposed to see it as a symbol of international unity and peace. What a flying crock of monkey pus.

This Olympic Spirit is pretty intoxicating stuff it is enough to blind people to massive abuses of human rights and acts rather akin to genocide.

barking toad10:32 pm 08 Apr 08

I’m going to wear green – in memory of the St Patrick’s holiday the mayor stole.

What’s this torch stuff?

Won’t it cause gorebull warming and kill life on earth?

The shortened route will be announced in time for Canberrans to “gather and show support for the torch” according to Stanhope. Show support for the oppressed and for human rights in China instead: Everyone in the city wear something red to work on the day, and hang something red from your car. Those going along to protest, wear red. And put red stickers over the eyes and mealy-mouths of any member of the ACT Government from now on in, anywhere you see their faces in hardcopy – City News, posters, Canberra Times in a cafe ….

The Chinese in China don’t necessarily understand the Tibet issue, as their media is quite heavily censored.

I think they need to open some talks with Tibet. It is the only way to stop this torch relay from continuing to be a huge train wreck across the world.

The only reason why Stanhope said no to the guards is that there is an undertaking from the Australian War Memorial that the Chinese can borrow the tanks to subdue the protesters if they got too lively.

This is funny – speaking of the Chinese “guards” who follow the torch, the London 2012 Olympics Chief has been overheard calling them “thugs”: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23504778-23109,00.html.

Maybe that’s because they think they can carry on in the free world, bashing protesters, like they do back in China. I’m glad Chairman Rudd isn’t letting them guard the torch here (in a shock departure from his usual approach, which is to do everything his Chinese speaking friends tell him to).

As for the protests, I see no problem with them so long as they are peaceful. Honestly, it’s all a bit silly for everyone to pretend everything is fine (even for the Olympics) when China continues its blatant policy of (cultural) genocide in Tibet. The Chinese authorities have to understand that people outside of China have the freedom to voice a dissenting opinion, unlike 1.3 billion Chinese, who unquestioningly do what they’re told (or are “disappeared”).

The ACT Liberals might be hoping to get some tips from the Chinese Army on how to win an election.

Rudd yesterday categorically said Chinese security officials would not be guarding the torch: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23501751-23109,00.html

But his wording leaves a face-saving option: “What Olympic officials the Chinese bring to Canberra is a matter for them but on the security front, we will be providing that.”

Hey presto, all you have to do is rename the Chinese security officals as “Olympic officials” and it’s alright then … How about we just call them “attendants” for short?

Wide Boy Jake said :

If anybody protests during the torch relay cut off their dole and lock them up until after the Games.

And their family. And anyone who has any issues with the government generally.
Why let them out?

Thumper, what’s your take on the Liberals allowing the Chinese Secret Service to take over security of parliament house under the reign of Howard the benevolent then ?

Thumper, you Liberal stooge!

Stanhope is showing how weak he really is when it comes to the crunch.

Talk is cheap, eh Jon.

… and the route’s been shortened in Canberra … Stanhope has caved in and will allow two flame “attendants” – i.e. the Chinese military – to help police on our streets … and Rudd/Gillard are running from being seen anywhere near the torch.

The ACT’s top cop says it would be unacceptable for the flame “attendants” to get physical with protesters. So if they do touch protesters we’ll surely see some assault prosecutions then?

Wide Boy Jake5:09 pm 08 Apr 08

If anybody protests during the torch relay cut off their dole and lock them up until after the Games.

It’s now being reported that Olympic chiefs are considering scrapping the torch relay for future Olympic Games. See: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23506495-2,00.html

I feel sorry for the poor joe bloes who thought they’d get a thrill by bearing the olympic torch, then get mobbed by protesters.

Does anyone know what the route will be through Canberra?

Also, I’m just waiting for the Tibetan Australia Council to release some information on how you can participate in the planned protests, will post when it becomes available.

I blame global warming (for the lack of highlighting).

Yeah, they are highlighted (sort of) now. But they weren’t for a little while there.

Ari, the highlights are working – it’s just they are a blue that is close to being a dark grey, so they don’t stand out to well.

If Kevin just says sorry to all the Tibetans, then everything will be all okay?

For some reason the links in the text are not being highlighted. They still work, though, if you find them.

[Ed. its on the to do list to try and differentiate them a bit more. dark blue and black isnt always easy to tell apart on a dodgy monitor]

This whole protest really gets my goat. The point of the Olympics is to bury the hatchet for a few weeks, and revel in the global unification that is the watching sports such as synchronised swimming, ping pong and the hammer throw.

Putting my usual zealous writing for Amnesty aside for second, I do beleive that these protestors need to pull their heads in, listen to the Dalai Lama and find a more apt and appropriate venue to voice their distaste at the current Chinese occupation of Tibet. And thats even before I get wound up about the effects of these little States (Kosovo being the other)on the Global economies and wasted international funding to establish a country that would be far better off just toughing it out unified with their stronger, and wealthier neighbours.
Fuck.

The Beijing Olympics and, through it the torch relay, will flush-out Stanhope’s and Rudd’s hypocrisy re their human rights credentials.

Both are pro-human rights accept when it interferes with their own pro-China stance.

Rudd said he is considering an offer from Beijing to host him and his family at the opening ceremony. So he and his family can prance the world stage and live it up at the Olympics while minority groups in China continued to be persecuted.

The grand human rights advocate, Stanhope wants the glory of the Olympic torch making its way around Canberra while human rights are exterminated in China. Perhaps we should ask Stanhope and Rudd if they would consider a replicate Olympic torch be placed around the lake for every Chinese citizen that has been murdered by the Chinese government in their bid for freedom and human rights – ala the Siev X memorial.

Comrades Rudd and Stanhope would never entertain any measure that may upset their mates in Beijing.

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