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Unreserved Apology

By Ingeegoodbee - 24 June 2008 50

Last Sunday evening on the Police Convention in Civic thread I posted material directed at VG that was incorrect and derogatory and designed to cause offence. I will not repeat the statement here as I feel it would make little further contribution. What I did was a considerable error of judgement on my part and an action that I am ashamed of and embarrassed about.

I would like to unreservedly apologise to VG for the offence that my post caused. I would also like to apologise to any other members of the Riot-ACT community that may have found my post offensive and to Riot-ACT admin, Jazz who had to respond to the mess created by my actions.

The debate here on Riot-ACT is often robust and reflects the broad range of views and debating styles of the sites community.  Robust debate – accompanied by equally robust language – however is different from being deliberately offensive. Last Sunday I crossed that line. I was wrong to do so.

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Unreserved Apology
Crikey 2:36 pm 24 Jun 08

Ewe,,,,,nearly time for a group hug.

Clown Killer 2:34 pm 24 Jun 08

On the topic that is developing in this thread, I agree that the standard of communication and quality of topics have deteriorated greatly…

It’s an issue that has been raised or alluded to a number of times of late. Is there an easy answer?

V twin venom 2:27 pm 24 Jun 08

I didn’t read the original post but it sounds like it would have been best settled out the back of the shelter sheds after school rather with the threat of legal action and an organised apology. Get over it VG and pull your head in Ingee. FFS.

On the topic that is developing in this thread, I agree that the standard of communication and quality of topics have deteriorated greatly, particularly since the WRX crash on Majura Ave thread.

astrojax 2:19 pm 24 Jun 08

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here’s one…

dalryk 2:10 pm 24 Jun 08

In the interests of future good conduct, can anyone explain in general terms what the line was that was crossed? Personal attacks are pretty counter-productive as far as winning an argument goes, but on the net you need to roll with the punches occasionally. Where’s the line?

astrojax 1:26 pm 24 Jun 08

suitably magnaminous, that is…

astrojax 1:25 pm 24 Jun 08

good upon you, ingee – a public forum like this should foster robust discussion, but needn’t descend to petty grievances and sledging for its own sake.

sometimes, passions are aroused, but an apology for overstepping is a laudable gesture and one that should be commended. (i write here in ignorance of your post, having been off-board for a couple days) vg’s response is also suitable magnaminous and we should heed the advice therein to let it rest and move on… (not that i’ve heeded my own advice!)

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belray 1:16 pm 24 Jun 08

VicePope said :

I didn’t read the original thread, and so do not know what Ingeegoodbee wrote. If he/she thinks his/her words were inappropriate, he/she should be commended for doing the right thing and correcting the record. It’s not soft, it’s the right, honourable and courageous thing to do.

I agree with PapaDoc’s comment about some of the times when things get over the line.

I read the original thread; however, the offensive message was removed. I am guessing here, but I suspect that a certain apology was borne from the threat of legal proceedings rather than the honourable thing to do. It is amazing how fast people become honest or honourable when caught red-handed.

I applaud VG in finally taking taking to task one of those who post irresponsibly under the cover of anonymity. Although this forum is primarily anonymous, clearly it does not provide any form of protection or immunity. Post at your own peril, as every word you write is open to scrutiny. It is something to remember when posting, as the last thing we need is legal threats everytime someone gets passionate or argumentative.

miz 1:07 pm 24 Jun 08

It takes courage to apologise – hats off to all concerned for dealing with the issue in a positive way. Perhaps this event is a salient lesson for us all.

vg 1:07 pm 24 Jun 08

And the only ‘soft’ thing about the apology is the head of the poster in comment #1. I think there is nothing soft about a public mea culpa such as Ingee made (not that Farout would know what that means).

vg 1:04 pm 24 Jun 08

Ingee

I won’t perpetuate this any further but suffice to say I appreciate the fact that you have had the balls to not only apologise for what was said, but also appreciate the context and ramifications of what was said. The imaginary line was most definitely crossed, something for everyone to think about

I accept your apology and appreciate the fact that you have made it so public. Now lets move on

VicePope 12:54 pm 24 Jun 08

I didn’t read the original thread, and so do not know what Ingeegoodbee wrote. If he/she thinks his/her words were inappropriate, he/she should be commended for doing the right thing and correcting the record. It’s not soft, it’s the right, honourable and courageous thing to do.

I agree with PapaDoc’s comment about some of the times when things get over the line.

papadoc 12:49 pm 24 Jun 08

farout said :

soft

Thankyou for proving my point. Why sledge someone who has apologised for their actions? How does it affect you?

papadoc 12:48 pm 24 Jun 08

Out of respect to this site I will not comment on this apology or the reasons behind it, but as a frequent visitor to The RiotAct over the last few years it seems that this may finally be the line in the sand.

Lately the site has descended into a (reluctant to use the word “mean”) umm… an unwelcoming place. Posters are apologising for their “best/worst…” posts, comments have been disrespectful and in some cases quite offensive, much to the RiotAct’s detriment.

I, like many posters, enjoy coming here and reading every story on a daily basis and I believe that the free speech comments that accompany the posts are often useful and great in helping to understand particular topics. It’s when the comments fall into personal attacks that they become frustrating to read. I know that when they’ve been aimed at me I feel like I have no right of reply as there is sometimes a pack mentality about them.

Opinions are great, I welcome everyone to share theirs, but when their opinion is just rude or derrogatory, why not keep it to yourself? Obviously there has been some pretty serious allegations made on this site and the last thing I want is to get my local news from The Canberra Times.

I’m not saying that the site needs to change, or the people for that matter. I just think we’re all old enough to respect each others opinions and gracefully understand that when the shit hits the fan, it’s the admins that have to clean it up. Their work is what keeps this site alive and if they get f**ked over, we all get f**ked over.

Thankyou.

farout 12:38 pm 24 Jun 08

soft

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