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Up up up go the parking costs

By johnboy - 18 June 2012 29

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As the member for motorists Alistair Coe is going in to bat for the besieged Canberra drivers.

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged another $625 in parking every year. ACT Shadow Transport Services Minister Alistair Coe said fees should not rise yet again to make up for ACT Labor’s mismanagement of the Budget.

“The 12 per cent parking cost increase revealed in Estimates today will be felt greatly by Canberrans who are already experiencing huge cost of living pressures under ACT Labor,” Mr Coe said.

“Canberrans are already struggling with rates that have doubled in many suburbs and will increase by a further 10 per cent this year. In addition to skyrocketing rates, water costs have tripled and electricity is up 85 per cent with another 17 per cent increase as of next month. “Given catching a bus is impractical for many Canberrans, this increase effectively punishes people who have no choice but to drive.

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Up up up go the parking costs
FioBla 5:45 pm 18 Jun 12

johnboy said :

I’d argue most of those cities have better public transport and more centralised design.

i.e. with poorer public transport, and a less centralised design, there is proportionally higher demand for private-car facilities in Canberra.

Therefore parking in Canberra should be… cheaper?

If prices are high enough, then the private industry should enter the market and replace inefficient government. People go on and on about privatising ACTION.

That’s probably the local government plan anyway, from the Transport for Canberra 2012–2031 document: http://i.imgur.com/xAwfh.jpg

EvanJames 5:20 pm 18 Jun 12

davo101 said :

How many Canberra households have two “parents” (are these somehow different to people?) both of whom drive to town centres every day and park long enough to rack up the full day charge?

Yes, those are Working Families, and I’m so glad that all these bad things only affect them. I’m not a parent or a working family, so I’ll get off scott free. Apparently. Or that nice Mr Coe would say “people” rather than “families” or “parents”.

Spectra 4:42 pm 18 Jun 12

Deref said :

Don’t worry. Zed’ll fix it. Free parking and free beer for all!

Well bloody hell! If he’d just said that, I could have saved myself a lot of typing and just said “you’ve got my vote!”.

FD10 4:41 pm 18 Jun 12

Spectra said :

Yet another press release with a bunch of context-less “statistics” picked to support an argument without giving you enough information to make your own mind up:

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged another $625 in parking every year.

Jesus. Considering I pay maybe $20 a year in parking that’s going to be a massive increase for me…
Is that based on the average per person? Average per registered vehicle? Average for a person who works in civic and parks there every day? Some number you just made up?

And this:

“Canberrans are already struggling with rates that have doubled in many suburbs

What a completely useless, misleading “fact”. Doubled since when exactly? If it’s since 1923, well you know what? I’m fine with that. If it’s since last year? Less good. Sitting out there on it’s own with no attached timeframe? Useless for coming to any conclusions. (Same goes for the “85% increase” in power prices).

Do people actually fall for this stuff? (Don’t answer that – if the answer is what I think it is, I’m happier not knowing).

I’ll assume you’ve raised these issues with Mr Coe? No? Then whinging about it on RiotACT for absolutely no gain is doing everyone a service. But really, I can’t say I’d expect less from someone who, when the issue of parking costs are brought up, can really only offer this retort:

Spectra said :

Considering I pay maybe $20 a year in parking that’s going to be a massive increase for me

(my emphasis added)

This may shock you: the world does not revolve around you, and while this parking increase may not directly impact upon you, it does not mean that it will not impact upon others. Using that logic, let’s scrap hospitals from the public purse because haven’t needed treatment at one for nearly 20 years. What a stupid idea, so let’s just call a spade a spade, you’re so politicised and anti-Liberal that you’re willing to make a drongo argument to incite negative feelings on the internet. Good for you, now how about you direct your rage and anger to growing up making your objectives clear.

Of course I now look forward to you reading this and attempting to make all sorts of uneducated guesses about me and my motives for posting. Flame-on.

G-Fresh 4:35 pm 18 Jun 12

Simple – if you cannot afford it then use alternate transport

Growling Ferret 4:34 pm 18 Jun 12

cough *parliamentary triangle* cough

Having enjoyed the free parking there for years, and now working in the city, I understand that it would not be fair to impose pay parking at the Civic rate in the Parl triangle due to lack of facilities for shopping and convenience.

But it would make sense to whack employees there at a Woden/Belconnen/Tuggeranong rate ($8 a day?) – and increase patronage on ACTION, and lessen the parking issues there….

c_c 4:11 pm 18 Jun 12

Look, you’ve got two choices.

1 – Look at parking costs in other cities and realise we still have it good here.

2 – Buy a hearse and rely on parking inspectors never questioning your use of loading zones.

johnboy 4:04 pm 18 Jun 12

I’d argue most of those cities have better public transport and more centralised design.

davo101 4:01 pm 18 Jun 12

Whoops looks like yet another typo in one of Mr Coe’s rants. I think the first sentence should be:

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged up to another $625 in parking every year.

How many Canberra households have two “parents” (are these somehow different to people?) both of whom drive to town centres every day and park long enough to rack up the full day charge?

Thumper 3:55 pm 18 Jun 12

BicycleCanberra said :

Canberra has one of the lowest all day parking rates in the western world and also compared to cities of comparable size. There are many locations throughout the city where parking is still free! This really is a modest increase that will do nothing to increase public transport use.

GLOBAL COMPARISON
TOP 50 DAILY
PARKING RATES* (USD)
Oslo 89.04
Copenhagen 73.11
Melbourne 69.53
Sydney 67.42
London – City 65.97
Tokyo 62.00
London – West End 57.73
Vienna 57.51
Amsterdam 57.51
Geneva 46.98
Zurich 46.98
Helsinki 46.01
The Hague 44.57
Brisbane 41.09
New York – Midtown 41.00
Paris 40.26
Hamburg 40.26
Frankfurt 38.82
Madrid 38.82
Honolulu, HI 38.00
Düsseldorf 35.95
Athens 35.95
Boston, MA 34.00
Edinburgh 32.99
Manchester 32.82
Perth 32.66
Moscow 32.63
Stockholm 32.38
Chicago, IL 32.00
Birmingham 31.34
Bristol 31.34
Kyiv 30.43
Rotterdam 30.19
Los Angeles, CA 30.00
New York – Downtown 30.00
Seoul 29.51
Tel Aviv 29.10
Leeds 28.86
Munich 28.76
Stuttgart 28.76
Dublin 28.76
Hong Kong 28.25
Belfast 27.71
Rome 27.32
Philadelphia, PA 26.00
San Diego, CA 26.00
San Francisco, CA 26.00
Berlin 25.88
Milan 25.88
Utrecht 25.88

So what?

People in Canada get attacked by moose.

Deref 3:49 pm 18 Jun 12

Spectra said :

Yet another press release with a bunch of context-less “statistics” picked to support an argument without giving you enough information to make your own mind up:

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged another $625 in parking every year.

Jesus. Considering I pay maybe $20 a year in parking that’s going to be a massive increase for me…
Is that based on the average per person? Average per registered vehicle? Average for a person who works in civic and parks there every day? Some number you just made up?

And this:

“Canberrans are already struggling with rates that have doubled in many suburbs

What a completely useless, misleading “fact”. Doubled since when exactly? If it’s since 1923, well you know what? I’m fine with that. If it’s since last year? Less good. Sitting out there on it’s own with no attached timeframe? Useless for coming to any conclusions. (Same goes for the “85% increase” in power prices).

Do people actually fall for this stuff? (Don’t answer that – if the answer is what I think it is, I’m happier not knowing).

Don’t worry. Zed’ll fix it. Free parking and free beer for all!

BicycleCanberra 3:47 pm 18 Jun 12

Canberra has one of the lowest all day parking rates in the western world and also compared to cities of comparable size. There are many locations throughout the city where parking is still free! This really is a modest increase that will do nothing to increase public transport use.

GLOBAL COMPARISON
TOP 50 DAILY
PARKING RATES* (USD)
Oslo 89.04
Copenhagen 73.11
Melbourne 69.53
Sydney 67.42
London – City 65.97
Tokyo 62.00
London – West End 57.73
Vienna 57.51
Amsterdam 57.51
Geneva 46.98
Zurich 46.98
Helsinki 46.01
The Hague 44.57
Brisbane 41.09
New York – Midtown 41.00
Paris 40.26
Hamburg 40.26
Frankfurt 38.82
Madrid 38.82
Honolulu, HI 38.00
Düsseldorf 35.95
Athens 35.95
Boston, MA 34.00
Edinburgh 32.99
Manchester 32.82
Perth 32.66
Moscow 32.63
Stockholm 32.38
Chicago, IL 32.00
Birmingham 31.34
Bristol 31.34
Kyiv 30.43
Rotterdam 30.19
Los Angeles, CA 30.00
New York – Downtown 30.00
Seoul 29.51
Tel Aviv 29.10
Leeds 28.86
Munich 28.76
Stuttgart 28.76
Dublin 28.76
Hong Kong 28.25
Belfast 27.71
Rome 27.32
Philadelphia, PA 26.00
San Diego, CA 26.00
San Francisco, CA 26.00
Berlin 25.88
Milan 25.88
Utrecht 25.88

rosscoact 3:38 pm 18 Jun 12

But how come they only get two weeks off a year? Are they saving up their leave for something else? What if they go shopping on the weekend, won’t that increase their parking costs?

Oh, parking’s going up a dollar a day…..is that all?

Chop71 3:27 pm 18 Jun 12

Spectra said :

Yet another press release with a bunch of context-less “statistics” picked to support an argument without giving you enough information to make your own mind up:

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged another $625 in parking every year.

Jesus. Considering I pay maybe $20 a year in parking that’s going to be a massive increase for me…
Is that based on the average per person? Average per registered vehicle? Average for a person who works in civic and parks there every day? Some number you just made up?

And this:

“Canberrans are already struggling with rates that have doubled in many suburbs

What a completely useless, misleading “fact”. Doubled since when exactly? If it’s since 1923, well you know what? I’m fine with that. If it’s since last year? Less good. Sitting out there on it’s own with no attached timeframe? Useless for coming to any conclusions. (Same goes for the “85% increase” in power prices).

Do people actually fall for this stuff? (Don’t answer that – if the answer is what I think it is, I’m happier not knowing).

Anyone can make statistics up, but should we sit in the corner and take more medicine?

Spectra 3:10 pm 18 Jun 12

Yet another press release with a bunch of context-less “statistics” picked to support an argument without giving you enough information to make your own mind up:

From next month, Canberrans will be slugged another $625 in parking every year.

Jesus. Considering I pay maybe $20 a year in parking that’s going to be a massive increase for me…
Is that based on the average per person? Average per registered vehicle? Average for a person who works in civic and parks there every day? Some number you just made up?

And this:

“Canberrans are already struggling with rates that have doubled in many suburbs

What a completely useless, misleading “fact”. Doubled since when exactly? If it’s since 1923, well you know what? I’m fine with that. If it’s since last year? Less good. Sitting out there on it’s own with no attached timeframe? Useless for coming to any conclusions. (Same goes for the “85% increase” in power prices).

Do people actually fall for this stuff? (Don’t answer that – if the answer is what I think it is, I’m happier not knowing).

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