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Vic Adams falls on his sword after Lundygate

johnboy 13 March 2009 43

The ABC reports that local Labor Senator Kate Lundy has had to accept the resignation of her media adviser Vic Adams after he was found to be writing letters to the editor without disclosing his affiliation.

This follows our Liberal Senator, Gary Humphries, raising the issue.

Expect a vengeful Lundy faction to dig up a Liberal staffer engaging in the same behaviour as payback real soon now.

UPDATE: Senator Humphries’ office has made this statement to RiotACT:

    Senator Humphries did not in fact raise the issue; but responded to a Journalist’s queries yesterday afternoon.

    I understand that the Canberra Times journalist stumbled on the letter which was published in the Canberra Times last week and made the connection.

    Senator Humphries, nor his staff had anything to do with the information being published or in passing the information to anybody; despite Senator Lundy’s claims on ABC Radio this morning.

One suspects those assurances will not still the wrath of Kate. Letter writing Liberals will be holding their breath waiting to see which of them cops the payback.

(On the other hand, given the state of Kate’s website, maybe her vengeance isn’t to be feared so much.)


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betterdeadthanzed betterdeadthanzed 9:13 pm 18 Mar 09

Holden Caulfield is right again about deceptive advertising. Lucky for Humphries that the ACCC won’t come knocking. Anyway, didn’t Vic Adams claim Kate Lundy shared his opinions? That’s worth a sacking.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 2:09 pm 16 Mar 09

jakez said :

As for the rest of it, I think you would have to look at it closely to invent the conspiracy theory type analysis you have of the brochure. I didn’t study the brochure in detail at the time and I didn’t when you linked it, and I still came to the conclusion I came to above.

Yes, but, unless I’m mistaken you have a connection to the Liberal Party, so what other conclusion should we expect you to come to? I’m sure you remember the controversy this leaflet caused and if it wasn’t for Jackie Kelly’s even bigger brochure balls up around the same time I dare say, locally at least, that Humphries would have been put under greater scrutiny.

A simple question, if the brochure was not a deliberate attempt to deceive, why was there no Liberal Party logo on the brochure?

johnboy johnboy 1:53 pm 16 Mar 09

The problem jakez, is that staffers have much more time than productive members of the community to engage in letter writing.

Unless they’re disclosing where all that time and animus comes from then the human beings in society will never get word in edgewise.

Which might be a desired outcome for staffers and their masters, but perhaps less so for the rest of us.

jakez jakez 1:47 pm 16 Mar 09

sepi said :

There are some jobs where you can’t separate someone’s private opinions from their public ones. Political jobs are clearly in that camp.

Can you imagine Kevin Rudd writing letters to the paper that conflicted with his prime ministerial statements, and claiming that he is allowed to have private opinions outside his job?

Well the distinction I would draw is that it isn’t Kevin Rudd but Vic Adam’s. Technically his role as Media Adviser does not require that he agree with Lundy’s positions (hell Lundy or any mainstream party politician doesn’t even agree with some of their own positions).

However we expect him to, so….he’s stuffed.

sepi sepi 1:09 pm 16 Mar 09

There are some jobs where you can’t separate someone’s private opinions from their public ones. Political jobs are clearly in that camp.

Can you imagine Kevin Rudd writing letters to the paper that conflicted with his prime ministerial statements, and claiming that he is allowed to have private opinions outside his job?

jakez jakez 10:51 am 16 Mar 09

Holden I will take your Cadbury’s comment as an amusing and deliberate strawman as I am sure you did not think that the sometimes ridiculous aspects of IP apply to the point that I was making about the generic colour green.

As for the rest of it, I think you would have to look at it closely to invent the conspiracy theory type analysis you have of the brochure. I didn’t study the brochure in detail at the time and I didn’t when you linked it, and I still came to the conclusion I came to above.

Do I think the brochure is uncouth? Perhaps, however it is way down the list of electioneering techniques that I have a problem with (many of which are completely legal).

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:31 am 16 Mar 09

jakez said :

I don’t think anyone can own a colour however I’ll concede that to merely make the point that nobody in their right mind could think that was from Lindsay Tanner.

Firstly, you can own a colour. Try releasing a new chocolate with a purple wrapper and see how long it takes for a Cadbury’s lawyer to get in touch. Plenty of other examples of trademarked colours too, but that’s by the by.

In regards to thinking the brochure was from Lindsay Tanner or not, you are making the fatal assumption that people actually read this things closely, haha. And if a punter did read it there would be plenty who would be trying to work out why Tanner was dissing the ALP-Greens.

The point is, nowhere on that brochure did it declare clearly that it was printed/funded by Gary Humphries and/or the Liberal Party. An otherwise anonymous street address is hardly a clear and unambiguous notification.

jakez jakez 10:25 am 16 Mar 09

pelican said :

Probably an ill-advised move but one has to ask…does it really matter if a letter writer is affiliated? Aren’t we all affiliated with something?

We are all indviduals with a view as well as employees. If he is writing as himself and not on behalf of Kate Lundy or the ALP does it matter?

Just another opinion on an opinion page.

I think it all depends though. In an ideal world I’d agree with you, however in the world we are currently in, considering Vic’s position and the content of the letters he was writing, I think this was probably appropriate. Depending on Lundy’s prior knowledge, perhaps a reprimand may have been more appropriate (I don’t know).

With regards to push polling, I consider it unethical, particularly when it is used as a vehicle for slander.

I generally have a large dislike for negative campaigning based on distortions and lies, especially considering that the most famous attack ad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_ad) killed the Presidential campaign of one of my political heroes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater).

sepi sepi 10:04 am 16 Mar 09

The letters page is right near the end now, after the stockmarket stuff etc.

i think it should be further forward in th paper – it is one of the bits I always read.

The arts pages seem to have disappeared altogether tho.

memberforbelconnen memberforbelconnen 12:44 pm 15 Mar 09

The pages were there, MWF.

MWF MWF 6:48 pm 14 Mar 09

R. Slicker said :

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that nobody bothers to read The Canberra Times anymore.

I read it today. I couldn’t find the Letters to the Editor page. Is it there, or is it just me?

pelican pelican 5:42 pm 14 Mar 09

Probably an ill-advised move but one has to ask…does it really matter if a letter writer is affiliated? Aren’t we all affiliated with something?

We are all indviduals with a view as well as employees. If he is writing as himself and not on behalf of Kate Lundy or the ALP does it matter?

Just another opinion on an opinion page.

sepi sepi 3:35 pm 14 Mar 09

pie eating ability is vital in an elected representative.

jakez jakez 3:34 pm 14 Mar 09

Holden Caulfield said :

jakez said :

Holden Caulfield said :

It’s still not as bad as Gary Humphries pretending to be a Green, pretending to be Lindsay Tanner like he did during the 2007 Federal Election.

Can you elaborate for me please?

Sure…

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/Holden-Caulfield/greens_broch_inner.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/Holden-Caulfield/greens_broch_outer.jpg

Ahh right it was the Lindsay Tanner bit taht threw me off.

I don’t think anyone can own a colour however I’ll concede that to merely make the point that nobody in their right mind could think that was from Lindsay Tanner.

vg vg 2:51 pm 14 Mar 09

What will Katie do, eat another pie?

R. Slicker R. Slicker 12:09 pm 14 Mar 09

sepi said :

Wierd that LUndy hadn’t noticed his letters up to now tho – or didn’t she care?

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that nobody bothers to read The Canberra Times anymore.

sepi sepi 12:43 am 14 Mar 09

Wierd that LUndy hadn’t noticed his letters up to now tho – or didn’t she care?

bd84 bd84 11:38 pm 13 Mar 09

If the idiot declared his affiliation in the first place there may not have been the problem. Though to have a staffer going around flinging their extreme points of view can’t be good for the reputation of the boss or the office, preventing staff from making such comments in the public domain would be a sensible move.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 8:19 pm 13 Mar 09

Clown Killer said :

If you’re dumb enough to fall for a push poll then the fault lies with you.

Not sure if this comment is in reference to mine, but there was no push poll, it was blatant misrepresentation in the form of a political brochure. Links to the offending item were just posted and are waiting for johnboy to approve.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 8:18 pm 13 Mar 09

jakez said :

Holden Caulfield said :

It’s still not as bad as Gary Humphries pretending to be a Green, pretending to be Lindsay Tanner like he did during the 2007 Federal Election.

Can you elaborate for me please?

Sure…

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/Holden-Caulfield/greens_broch_inner.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/Holden-Caulfield/greens_broch_outer.jpg

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