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Violence against women strategy released

By johnboy - 22 August 2011 45

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Joy Burch has announced the release of the Prevention of Violence against Women and Children Strategy 2011-2017

Thank goodness we’ve got one of those.

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Violence against women strategy released
Darkfalz 11:37 pm 22 Aug 11

what_the said :

Our maybe Our just means community….as in if you’re in town and see a bloke abusing the hell out of some woman, maybe just tell him to take a chill pill.

Are you serious? Not a chance in hell, unless it was my daughter, sister, fiancee or mother. Look at that poor sod in Melbourne who tried to interfere in a domestic and it cost him his life.

I just shake my head and tell myself if she’s dumb enough to stick around, if she’d rather be with a “thug” than the thousands of decent, hardworking single men out there, she deserves it.

2604 10:38 pm 22 Aug 11

milkman said :

Darkfalz said :

I like the caption “our responsibility” – what are they implying here? That we (as men) am somehow responsible for the actions of other men? That all men are either violent or condoners of violence against women? Or maybe that we should risk our lives getting involved in other people’s abusive relationships.

It’s ‘our responsibility’ in the same way that it’s ‘our fault’ that Aborigines were killed and their lands taken.

Actually identifying individuals and taking meaningful action is difficult.

Personally, I blame the funding of non-government schools by the federal government for the comparatively worse academic outcomes achieved by government school students.

Punishing those successful non-gov’t schools by withdrawing federal funding and boosting the salaries of government school teachers by 7% per year for three years should fix all of that, though.

what_the 10:36 pm 22 Aug 11

Darkfalz said :

gooterz said :

Another way to completely ignore men and make men more outcast from the lives of their children. Have the london riots proved anything yet?

We should setup a minister for men. we have one for women! If thats not sexist i dont know what is!

I like the caption “our responsibility” – what are they implying here? That we (as men) am somehow responsible for the actions of other men? That all men are either violent or condoners of violence against women? Or maybe that we should risk our lives getting involved in other people’s abusive relationships.

I guess everyone is responsible for an abusive relationship except the woman who put herself in it.

Our maybe Our just means community….as in if you’re in town and see a bloke abusing the hell out of some woman, maybe just tell him to take a chill pill.

gooterz 10:33 pm 22 Aug 11

Just to prove the quality(or lack their of) of this article
Page 6 of the strategy.. “One in four 12-20 year old Australian are aware of domestic violence against their mothers or step-mothers by their fathers or step-fathers.”
Which references ‘A White Ribbon Foundation Report – An Assault on Our Future’

http://www.whiteribbonday.org.au/media/documents/AssaultonourFutureFinal.pdf

Page 4. which references yet another Report this time from 2001. (getting over 10 years ago)
Young People & Domestic Violence: National research on young people’s attitudes and experiences of domestic violence.

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/21248/20070722-0007/www.ag.gov.au/agd/www/rwpattach.nsf/viewasattachmentpersonal/(E24C1D4325451B61DE7F4F2B1E155715)_ypadv25-201.pdf/$file/ypadv25-201.pdf

Now this report is fairly unbiased. Maybe because its 10 years old and there were less feminists back then.
The main idea of the report is about a survey of 5014 children between 12-20 and how they percive domestic violence. One of the major things brought up is that most of the kids dont see female to male violence as violence because they dont think that the female could actually cause harm to the male.

Page 125

the survey size is 5014 young people between 12-20 sometime in 2001 or previous.
Of these 452 or 9.0% of those young people said that witnessed only the male parent being violent towards the female parent.
389 or 7.8% reported that only their female parent had been violent towards the male parent
but 14.4% had claimed that both parents had been violent.
9% + 14.4% give you 23.4% which is where they drew the one in four from, but no mention of the 22.1% of females that had been violent!
If you then take into account that female violence isn’t seen as violence due to stereotypes this would imply that females are likely main offenders!

LSWCHP 10:21 pm 22 Aug 11

I was married for seven years to a sociopathic monster who subjected me to continuous physical and emotional abuse from almost day 1 after our wedding. I was attacked on several occasions with fists, feet and household implements including a broken glass. I have physical scars that will never leave my body. I have mental scars that will be with me until the day I die. I was contemplating suicide as the result of the abuse I was suffering, but through a miracle I managed to escape and recover my sanity and my life.

I’m a 6 foot 5 inch 190 pound male ex infantry soldier.

So yeah, there are a lot of male arsehats out there abusing women. They’re probably in the majority. But I know other men who have been through experiences similar to mine. Domestic violence is not a one way street. Don’t let anybody tell you otherwise.

If you’re undergoing domestice violence, whether you’re a man or a woman, get out. Do whatever it takes, but get out. If you don’t there is a very good chance that you will end up dead, either at your own hands, or the the hands of your abuser.

milkman 10:18 pm 22 Aug 11

Darkfalz said :

I like the caption “our responsibility” – what are they implying here? That we (as men) am somehow responsible for the actions of other men? That all men are either violent or condoners of violence against women? Or maybe that we should risk our lives getting involved in other people’s abusive relationships.

It’s ‘our responsibility’ in the same way that it’s ‘our fault’ that Aborigines were killed and their lands taken.

Actually identifying individuals and taking meaningful action is difficult.

Darkfalz 9:53 pm 22 Aug 11

gooterz said :

Another way to completely ignore men and make men more outcast from the lives of their children. Have the london riots proved anything yet?

We should setup a minister for men. we have one for women! If thats not sexist i dont know what is!

I like the caption “our responsibility” – what are they implying here? That we (as men) am somehow responsible for the actions of other men? That all men are either violent or condoners of violence against women? Or maybe that we should risk our lives getting involved in other people’s abusive relationships.

I guess everyone is responsible for an abusive relationship except the woman who put herself in it.

gooterz 8:29 pm 22 Aug 11

Another way to completely ignore men and make men more outcast from the lives of their children. Have the london riots proved anything yet?

We should setup a minister for men. we have one for women! If thats not sexist i dont know what is!

astrojax 8:00 pm 22 Aug 11

Darkfalz said :

kakosi said :

The only way to deal with violence, against women in particular, is to make it a serious crime – rather than classify it as a “domestic disturbance or sexual assault”.

I had a neighbour who was beaten to death by her husband in her house after years of such “domestic disturbances” were reported and somehow he never got arrested, until the end, when he was charged with manslaughter (of course).

She should have left after the first beating. These things only escalate, they rarely get better. What bothers me is that a very small percentage of men are physically abusive, yet they rarely have trouble attracting women as there are many who like the aggressive “bad boy” footy player type. Nobody forces women do date them, and nobody is much surprised when the guy ends up to be abusive, but there’s still no accountabilty for their poor choice in men. You can lock the thug up, but unless the woman is taking some responsibility, she’s just going to end up with another one. These guys won’t have anyone to bash if women can learn to spot them and avoid them (most sensible ones do just that).

With people of a lower socio-economic strata, you’ll tend to find in most cases when there is physical abuse, it occurs on both sides, and on the kids – because that’s how many of these people deal with conflict in general.

i’m sorry, but you don’t know much about this, do you? leaving isn’t always a simple option and it is through concerted community intervention and engagement with the issue, such as through such strategies as this, that could assist some victims to leave the abusive relationship.

and btw, ‘they’ will always find someone against whom to exert their violence – let’s hope you’re not in the wrong place at the wrong time, eh?

Classified 7:19 pm 22 Aug 11

Maybe someone could teach these chicks not to tailgate while driving on the Parkway…

steveu 6:56 pm 22 Aug 11

Ben_Dover said :

Oh..Ending …violence against women strategy. I do wish you’d made that a bit more clear. I was coming here for tips.

Agreed. Im sick of seeing the current government trying to garnish the female vote further with infamatory things like this. You never see in the media that 69% of homicides of children are committed by the custodial parent? (http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide/victim-offender.aspx) The custodial parent is predominantly (last I looked it was 92%) female.
Just a bit of balance is reasonable to ask. I think guys have been made out to be ogres far too much. Dont get me wrong, theres heaps of them out there – though alot of them do get locked up for it.

Darkfalz 6:40 pm 22 Aug 11

kakosi said :

The only way to deal with violence, against women in particular, is to make it a serious crime – rather than classify it as a “domestic disturbance or sexual assault”.

I had a neighbour who was beaten to death by her husband in her house after years of such “domestic disturbances” were reported and somehow he never got arrested, until the end, when he was charged with manslaughter (of course).

She should have left after the first beating. These things only escalate, they rarely get better. What bothers me is that a very small percentage of men are physically abusive, yet they rarely have trouble attracting women as there are many who like the aggressive “bad boy” footy player type. Nobody forces women do date them, and nobody is much surprised when the guy ends up to be abusive, but there’s still no accountabilty for their poor choice in men. You can lock the thug up, but unless the woman is taking some responsibility, she’s just going to end up with another one. These guys won’t have anyone to bash if women can learn to spot them and avoid them (most sensible ones do just that).

With people of a lower socio-economic strata, you’ll tend to find in most cases when there is physical abuse, it occurs on both sides, and on the kids – because that’s how many of these people deal with conflict in general.

kakosi 5:00 pm 22 Aug 11

The only way to deal with violence, against women in particular, is to make it a serious crime – rather than classify it as a “domestic disturbance or sexual assault”.

I had a neighbour who was beaten to death by her husband in her house after years of such “domestic disturbances” were reported and somehow he never got arrested, until the end, when he was charged with manslaughter (of course).

Ben_Dover 3:49 pm 22 Aug 11

Oh..Ending …violence against women strategy. I do wish you’d made that a bit more clear. I was coming here for tips.

Darkfalz 3:25 pm 22 Aug 11

How about ending violence against people?

Most violence against children, incidentally, is by mothers. By men are always portrayed as the villains in these campaigns and literature.

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