22 December 2010

Vision Zero hits Vision 19

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This in from ACT Policing:

ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team are investigating a single vehicle collision on Soward Way in Greenway where the single occupant has died.

Police on mobile patrol came across a silver Holden utility in a culvert about 10.10pm last night (Tuesday 21 December) in a secluded area of the street.

The deceased driver is believed to be a 46-year-old Bonython man.

Police are appealing to any witnesses who may have seen the silver Holden utility in the Greenway area during the evening to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

UPDATE: Miraculously the road toll has now been revised down to 18:

The ACT road toll will remain at 18 at this stage following last night’s collision in Greenway.

Further investigation into the collision indicates the 46-year-old man had a medical condition which police believe may have been a contributing factor.

Around 10.10pm, police came across a silver Holden utility in a culvert in a secluded area of Soward Way.

ACT Policing is continuing to investigate the fatal collision. A post-mortem is expected to be carried out today, and a full brief will be prepared for the ACT Coroner.

One wonders how many other deaths can be re-defined.

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If the driver suffered, for example, a heart attack while driving, that would no doubt be reason to not count this one in the road toll. The heart attack (or stroke or whatever) could just as easily have happened at home in bed.

Hopefully we’ll hear more from the coroner.

According to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau’s Guidelines for
Reporting and Classifying
Road Vehicle Crashes, a road crash excludes a
“crash involving deliberate intent” where “some person or persons intended that they should occur.”

Captain RAAF8:38 am 23 Dec 10

Some vehicular suicides are impossible to prove but many are easy. Like trying to stab your father to death and then driving into a tree at 4 million miles an hour = suicide, being in mega debt/bankruptcy and your car hits the only tree for miles that was 10 metres off the road = suicide, losing custody of the kids and driving through a barrier on a bridge = suicide.

Happens a lot!

Clown Killer11:38 pm 22 Dec 10

Could anyone be aresed googling to see whether or not the government has ever accepted that alcohol abuse or drug dependence are ‘illnesses’. Fuck me – if they are, then we’ve found another ‘silver bullet’ that’ll reduce the road toll by thousands …

Condolences to the family.

How would you know if it was a suicide or not?

Often you don’t. But also often the person leaves a note, or makes a phone call, or in some way indicates their intention.

Interesting that when I “P” plater looses control and dies, we all assume it is due to the inexperience or over exuberance of youth, and people scream for changes so this will never happen again (won’t someone think of the children). I assume that calls for people over 40 to be regularly checked to see they are physically fit and able to drive will be forth coming?

“Correct me if I am wrong, but suicides are not counted in the road-toll, correct?”

How would you know if it was a suicide or not?

If he crashed due to a seizure or heart attack (or any other medical condition) then of course it shouldn’t be included in the road toll.

Correct me if I am wrong, but suicides are not counted in the road-toll, correct?

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