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Weetangera Oval development?

By Dacquiri - 25 March 2011 11

Following on from the recent spate of community planning fora, and pronouncement about the ACT Govt’s commitment to engagement and transparency on these issues, we have credible rumours about the proposed construction of more than 200 units on a chunk of the Weetangera Oval. 

While some local shopkeepers (of whom there are precious few) have been told that plans are well advanced, the community has been told nothing. 

If the Govt should have learned antyhing from previous debacles such as the process around the proposed development on the Hawker shops carpark, it should be: ‘engage early, engage often’. 

The message from the community has been pretty clear: the current planning system is pretty dysfunctional, and just about all the cards are stacked against members of the community.

The power of individual statutory officials is quite astounding, and the accountability mechanisms are minimal. 

Will Weetangera be the latest in the sad saga of planning snafus?

What’s Your opinion?


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Weetangera Oval development?
54-11 9:14 am 29 Mar 11

Dacquiri said :

The word is that discussions have already been held with the school about retaining & reconfiguring their outdoor space. The info has come by way of a local trader who was given the info by a consultant.
And as for “But given the recent issues with the proposed Hawker redevelopment even I would be amazed if they were trying to sneak something like this in” — no, there is no indication that they ‘get it’. Part of the deal about the Govt-run ‘master planning’ exercise is that they have, believe it or not, engaged the same consultants who were involved in the aborted Hawker development proposal. So much for starting with a fresh slate and an open mind, with open and transparent community engagement.

These particular consultants have become extremely wealthy on Stanhope government “consultation” contracts. They keep getting contracts because they deliver exactly what Stanhope wants. No other consultant company in Canberra gets a look in, unless they too are willing to deliver the answers that have been pre-prepared for them by ACTPLA/LDA et al, which are (surprise, surprise) the answers requested by PCA/MBA/HIA.

Our taxes at work, all in the name of “consulting” with the community, always after decisions have been made.

S4anta 9:01 am 29 Mar 11

miz said :

BTW, I mentioned a particular story on RiotACT (not this one but similar) to an ACT Govt person recently, so he could note that I was not the only person who had a particular opinion. He simply dismissed this blog as comments made by lunatics and which could therefore simply be disregarded. I sincerely hope they have changed their views, as they are likely to have a revolution on their hands if they keep trying to build on or flog off our green space.

On the upside by flogging it all off we wont have to whinge about TAMS mowing efforts!

miz 7:43 am 29 Mar 11

In established areas like Weetangera, there were reasons why certain land was not developed – it seems that this govt is so greedy they have lost the plot.
I DO get sick of hearing about ‘consultants’ getting all this money to ‘persuade’ the community to ‘agree’ to something no one actually wants (except developers).

BTW, I mentioned a particular story on RiotACT (not this one but similar) to an ACT Govt person recently, so he could note that I was not the only person who had a particular opinion. He simply dismissed this blog as comments made by lunatics and which could therefore simply be disregarded. I sincerely hope they have changed their views, as they are likely to have a revolution on their hands if they keep trying to build on or flog off our green space.

Dacquiri 12:09 am 29 Mar 11

The word is that discussions have already been held with the school about retaining & reconfiguring their outdoor space. The info has come by way of a local trader who was given the info by a consultant.
And as for “But given the recent issues with the proposed Hawker redevelopment even I would be amazed if they were trying to sneak something like this in” — no, there is no indication that they ‘get it’. Part of the deal about the Govt-run ‘master planning’ exercise is that they have, believe it or not, engaged the same consultants who were involved in the aborted Hawker development proposal. So much for starting with a fresh slate and an open mind, with open and transparent community engagement.

PBO 9:06 am 28 Mar 11

housebound said :

damien haas said :

PBO said :

Ummm, do they realise that it is a flood path? And when it floods it can get about 3ft deep in some areas. Buyer beware.

Yes, but thats only ‘once in a 100 years’ and its already happened this decade, so your good for 90 plus years. true.

Hydrology101 – a 1 in 100 year event is really an event that has a 1% chance of happening in any given year. It happens on average once every 29 years. Even more confusing, a 1 in 100 year event gets bigger over time – due to the lentth of record. Statistics!!!

But are you considering what construction in the area will do, and just because it does not get 3ft deep always does not mean that the ground would be solid. The ground in that area retains a high fluid concentration which would lead to uneven settling of the foundations. Ands given our increased rainfall over the past year and the detritus build up in that area, i would say that the area could flood in as little as 5 years. Leave it be.

housebound 10:00 pm 27 Mar 11

damien haas said :

PBO said :

Ummm, do they realise that it is a flood path? And when it floods it can get about 3ft deep in some areas. Buyer beware.

Yes, but thats only ‘once in a 100 years’ and its already happened this decade, so your good for 90 plus years. true.

Hydrology101 – a 1 in 100 year event is really an event that has a 1% chance of happening in any given year. It happens on average once every 29 years. Even more confusing, a 1 in 100 year event gets bigger over time – due to the lentth of record. Statistics!!!

Ian 9:30 pm 27 Mar 11

I don’t know about development at Weetangera, but I did notice today opposite Charnwood McDonalds there is a new housing estate which struck me as a significantly upmarket pocket of the suburb.

Thumper 7:21 pm 27 Mar 11

I coached a junior cricket team back in the 2000s and we had a match at Weetangera which was cancelled, in a drought, as the ground was like a swamp.

aronde 7:08 pm 27 Mar 11

Pretty sure the local school would much prefer the oval to be upgraded to be a decent oval! Would save bussing the kids all over Belconnen for athletics carnivals. But I guess the government does get less revenue from an oval compared to 200 units!

But given the recent issues with the proposed Hawker redevelopment even I would be amazed if they were trying to sneak something like this in.

damien haas 3:51 pm 27 Mar 11

PBO said :

Ummm, do they realise that it is a flood path? And when it floods it can get about 3ft deep in some areas. Buyer beware.

Yes, but thats only ‘once in a 100 years’ and its already happened this decade, so your good for 90 plus years. true.

PBO 11:32 am 27 Mar 11

Ummm, do they realise that it is a flood path? And when it floods it can get about 3ft deep in some areas. Buyer beware.

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