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Well that didn’t take long. Challenge to Gay Marriage kicks off tomorrow

By johnboy - 24 October 2013 71

The Christian Lobby is celebrating the swift turning wheels of reactionary justice as the High Court takes a directions hearing three days after the ACT Legislative Assembly passed Gay Marriage laws:

The High Court hearing into the ACT’s Marriage Equality Same-Sex Bill is expected to begin tomorrow after the Commonwealth lodged a writ of summons in the High Court challenging the law. The federal government says the bill is inconsistent with the Commonwealth Marriage Act and the Family Law Act. It’s requested the High Court to expedite a hearing into the legislation.

ABC News is reporting a judge has listed the matter for hearing tomorrow afternoon. Earlier today The Canberra Times reported on the writ, which includes a proposed timeline for the matter to be heard. It sets out a one or two day hearing of the full court as early as November 26.

“The Commonwealth contends that the proceeding should be heard at the earliest possible date, to reduce or avoid the uncertainty that will hang over the validity of the ACT Marriage ACT,” the writ says. “That uncertainty is exacerbated to the extent that persons may wish to enter into marriages under the ACT Marriage Act before its validity is determined.”

The ACT’s Chief Minister Katy Gallagher and Attorney-General Simon Corbell continue to defend the ACT bill saying it has a high chance of surviving. Legal advice prepared for the ACL suggests the bill is inconsistent with the constitution.

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Well that didn’t take long. Challenge to Gay Marriage kicks off tomorrow
Minz 6:18 pm 24 Oct 13

Holden Caulfield said :

Marriage equality is about removing discrimination from our laws and treating couples of all sexual persuasion equally. It has no effect whatsoever on the lives or beliefs of those who practice whatever religious order takes their fancy.

Gay couples aren’t asking to be married with the blessing of any church and until they do no religious order has any right whatsoever to stick their nose into state-based laws.

Bravo.

Of course, there are religious orders willing to marry gay people – so isn’t this challenge then trying to impinge on their religious freedoms? Or do people who claim that their religious views preclude gay marriage also not acknowledge the religious views of their brethren? Pretty poor form.

bikhet 5:43 pm 24 Oct 13

Holden Caulfield said :

Er, no, not really.

Marriage equality is about removing discrimination from our laws and treating couples of all sexual persuasion equally. It has no effect whatsoever on the lives or beliefs of those who practice whatever religious order takes their fancy.

Gay couples aren’t asking to be married with the blessing of any church and until they do no religious order has any right whatsoever to stick their nose into state-based laws.

Er, no not really. They have exactly the same right as any other citizen or group of citizens.

plausibly_deniable said :

Why would Corbell etc resign? They’ve made a law which represents the majority view of their constituency.

The last election wasn’t a referendum on the single issue of same-sex marriage. Those who voted for the Government might, or then again might not, support same-sex marriage, but I’d guess that most voters considered a range of policies in making their decision.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I think you’ll find that gay people are a real thing, and that marriage is a real thing, unlike the other thing you’re talking about.

Gay people are a real thing, though I’d prefer to say they are real people, but both marriage and religion are human constructs.

bigfeet 5:38 pm 24 Oct 13
Holden Caulfield 5:22 pm 24 Oct 13

magiccar9 said :

The people who believe in the so called “sky fairies” have just as much right to oppose the changes as those supporting it. Their beliefs are just as relevant as those who choose to engage in same sex marriage.

Er, no, not really.

Marriage equality is about removing discrimination from our laws and treating couples of all sexual persuasion equally. It has no effect whatsoever on the lives or beliefs of those who practice whatever religious order takes their fancy.

Gay couples aren’t asking to be married with the blessing of any church and until they do no religious order has any right whatsoever to stick their nose into state-based laws.

Deref 5:14 pm 24 Oct 13

PantsMan said :

If this fails, Abbott should resign.

I fixed that for you.

watto23 4:53 pm 24 Oct 13

magiccar9 said :

PantsMan said :

If this fails, Corbell should resign.

If it fails I think Barr, Katy, and Corbell should all go – they’re the top 3 banging the marriage equality drum.

qbngeek said :

Those who believe in sky fairies should mind their own business since they are rapidly becoming a minority.

If that is your mentality, then shouldn’t those who believe in same sex marriage mind the own business too? The people who believe in the so called “sky fairies” have just as much right to oppose the changes as those supporting it. Their beliefs are just as relevant as those who choose to engage in same sex marriage.

The difference is, most in support are not gay, and can see how it doesn’t affect them in any meaningful way. Those who oppose it, do so based on their own views and beliefs. Therefore they are pushing their beliefs onto the majority. Nobody is telling anyone against to do anything against their will. So it doesn’t really affect them, other than having some moral superiority that must be protected at all costs. the thought processes from those against are almost as if gay people are denied the right to marry then maybe they’ll stop being gay???

It does not really affect anyone other than those involved and the sooner religious groups just keep their noses out of other peoples business the better, because it does not affect them at all, except they think we should all believe in the unproven nonsense they believe in.

DrKoresh 4:47 pm 24 Oct 13

PantsMan said :

If this fails, Corbell should resign.

If it succeeds, Abbott should be fired… out of a cannon, into the Sun.

ScienceRules 4:45 pm 24 Oct 13

Sadly the challenge will likely be successful given the federalist nature of the constitution. As positive and welcome as the ACT stance is, it probably won’t survive the challenge. A state (or territory) can’t pass legislation that has a national effect as the NT found out over their experiment with voluntary euthenasia.

Woody Mann-Caruso 4:34 pm 24 Oct 13

magiccar9 said :

Their beliefs are just as relevant as those who choose to engage in same sex marriage.

I think you’ll find that gay people are a real thing, and that marriage is a real thing, unlike the other thing you’re talking about.

Woody Mann-Caruso 4:32 pm 24 Oct 13

PantsMan said :

If this fails, Corbell should resign.

Kinda like how you’ll leave Canberra forever if your move to have the Governor-General dissolve the Assembly doesn’t get up?

PantsMan 4:08 pm 24 Oct 13

qbngeek said :

Those who believe in sky fairies should mind their own business since they are rapidly becoming a minority.

Tolerance and respect for diversity, leftard-style.

plausibly_deniable 4:02 pm 24 Oct 13

Why would Corbell etc resign? They’ve made a law which represents the majority view of their constituency. They should be applauded for being on the right side of history. If Abbott has suddenly found that stomping on happy gay people’s happiness is his priority, that’s not the ACT Government’s problem – it’s just the last thrashings of a soon-to-be-shameful bigotry.

magiccar9 3:56 pm 24 Oct 13

PantsMan said :

If this fails, Corbell should resign.

If it fails I think Barr, Katy, and Corbell should all go – they’re the top 3 banging the marriage equality drum.

qbngeek said :

Those who believe in sky fairies should mind their own business since they are rapidly becoming a minority.

If that is your mentality, then shouldn’t those who believe in same sex marriage mind the own business too? The people who believe in the so called “sky fairies” have just as much right to oppose the changes as those supporting it. Their beliefs are just as relevant as those who choose to engage in same sex marriage.

PantsMan 3:33 pm 24 Oct 13

If this fails, Corbell should resign.

qbngeek 3:19 pm 24 Oct 13

Those who believe in sky fairies should mind their own business since they are rapidly becoming a minority. Many of the people who share their religious beliefs support marriage equality.

I say let them marry and be just a miserable as the rest of us 🙂

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