9 March 2011

We're from the ACT Government, we park where we want.

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Johnno has sent in this intriguing approach to parking by an ACT Government car taken on 24 February.

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creative_canberran said :

KB1971 said :

Chaz said :

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Irrelevant statement.

The person is illegally parking. Just because it’s a short visit, doesn’t mean I can do it

Not if is an “Authorised Vehicle” as described in the ACT legislation 😉

As I said, we had this conversation a little while ago re-rego inspectors.

Okay everyone, let’s get some things cleared up. No where is “authorised vehicle” defined in the context in legislation, there is no such golden ticket for parking nirvana.

In the ACT, the relevant legislation for this matter is Part 19 of the Australian Road Rules, sections 305-318.

Police vehicles, police officers on foot, drivers of emergency vehicles* are exempt in reasonable circumstances.
So too are road workers, tram drivers, oversized vehicles, tow truck drivers, postal workers^, break down vehicles and garbage trucks, again in reasonable circumstances or as otherwise provided for in legislation.

This guy would appear to enjoy no such exemption at all, and if they did for some reason, they would still need to demonstrated it was necessary and reasonable to use the exemption.

*emergency vehicle, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules,
means any vehicle driven by a person who is:
(a) an emergency worker for the provision; and
(b) driving the vehicle in the course of his or her duties as an emergency worker.
Note 1 Emergency worker is defined in this dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.
Note 2 Drive includes be in control of – see the definition in this dictionary.
emergency worker, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a person who is an emergency worker for the Rules, or the provision, under another law of this jurisdiction.

^postal vehicle, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a vehicle driven by a person who is:
(a) a postal worker for the provision; and
(b) driving the vehicle in the course of his or her duties as a postal worker.
Note 1 Postal worker is defined in this dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.
Note 2 Drive includes be in control of — see the definition in this dictionary.
postal worker, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a person who is a postal worker for the Rules, or the provision, under another law of this jurisdiction.

Looks like the rules have changed since I was an ACT Government employee as there was a piece of legislation that talked about “Authorised Vehicles” & “Authorised Persons”.

The “Authorised Person” bit is still on the road rules in rule 305:

307 Stopping and parking exemption for police and
emergency vehicles and authorised persons
(1) A provision of Part 12 does not apply to the driver of a
police vehicle or emergency vehicle if, in the circumstances:
(a) the driver is taking reasonable care; and
(b) it is reasonable that the provision should not apply.
Note 1 Emergency vehicle and police vehicle are defined in the
dictionary.
Note 2 Part 12 deals with restrictions on stopping and parking.
Exemptions Part 19
Australian Road Rules – February 2009 version 287
(2) A provision of Part 12 does not apply to a driver who is an
authorised person driving a vehicle in the course of his or
her duty as an authorised person if, in the circumstances:
(a) the driver is taking reasonable care; and
(b) it is reasonable that the provision should not apply.
Note Authorised person is defined in the dictionary.

Part 12 is too long to post here but tha particular driver of that vehicle may not be bound by the normal rules & regulations if they are “Authorised”.

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Hate to put a ferret under your gun Gantz, but as an ACT Pathology Employee, I can vouch that none of the ACT Pathology fleet have a rego matching that in the picture provided. Alas, most of the fleet are Hyundai’s and always have a great big blue and yellow sticker plastered on either side of the vehicles that bling ACT Pathology. ACT Pathology couriers are bound by the Businesses and ACT Governments Code of Conduct, and as such value professional customer service and driving. If you have a gripe with the business or our couriers driving behaviours, you are encouraged to lodge a complaint directly with our customer services section, rather than on public forums.

Gantz said :

, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

oh thats ok then…. no.

Possible reasons why that space was crossed out.
– allow for emergency service vehicles
– allow for large deliveries to be brought in through the front door
– an escape path in a fire (for a large crowd)
– allow for large foot traffic (and possibly disabled patrons) to easily enter the building

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

So that makes it OK?

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

That’s nice if the passenger of the other car is in a wheelchair.

Might get scratches the Government Car trying to get into their car.

My thoughts exactly!! There are lots of thought-less people out there.

creative_canberran4:33 pm 09 Mar 11

KB1971 said :

Chaz said :

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Irrelevant statement.

The person is illegally parking. Just because it’s a short visit, doesn’t mean I can do it

Not if is an “Authorised Vehicle” as described in the ACT legislation 😉

As I said, we had this conversation a little while ago re-rego inspectors.

Okay everyone, let’s get some things cleared up. No where is “authorised vehicle” defined in the context in legislation, there is no such golden ticket for parking nirvana.

In the ACT, the relevant legislation for this matter is Part 19 of the Australian Road Rules, sections 305-318.

Police vehicles, police officers on foot, drivers of emergency vehicles* are exempt in reasonable circumstances.
So too are road workers, tram drivers, oversized vehicles, tow truck drivers, postal workers^, break down vehicles and garbage trucks, again in reasonable circumstances or as otherwise provided for in legislation.

This guy would appear to enjoy no such exemption at all, and if they did for some reason, they would still need to demonstrated it was necessary and reasonable to use the exemption.

*emergency vehicle, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules,
means any vehicle driven by a person who is:
(a) an emergency worker for the provision; and
(b) driving the vehicle in the course of his or her duties as an emergency worker.
Note 1 Emergency worker is defined in this dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.
Note 2 Drive includes be in control of – see the definition in this dictionary.
emergency worker, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a person who is an emergency worker for the Rules, or the provision, under another law of this jurisdiction.

^postal vehicle, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a vehicle driven by a person who is:
(a) a postal worker for the provision; and
(b) driving the vehicle in the course of his or her duties as a postal worker.
Note 1 Postal worker is defined in this dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.
Note 2 Drive includes be in control of — see the definition in this dictionary.
postal worker, for a provision of the Australian Road Rules, means a person who is a postal worker for the Rules, or the provision, under another law of this jurisdiction.

Chaz said :

The person is illegally parking. Just because it’s a short visit, doesn’t mean I can do it

Of course you can do it; the parking fee is just a little higher for that particular spot.

Chaz said :

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Irrelevant statement.

The person is illegally parking. Just because it’s a short visit, doesn’t mean I can do it

Not if is an “Authorised Vehicle” as described in the ACT legislation 😉

As I said, we had this conversation a little while ago re-rego inspectors.

I particularly liked the WorkSafe ACT car that over-took me in the school zone in Phillip yesterday.
She then sped through the 60 & 40km/h roadworks on Hindmarsh Dr.

Gantz said :

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Irrelevant statement.

The person is illegally parking. Just because it’s a short visit, doesn’t mean I can do it

I do believe that is one of the A.C.T. Pathology vehicles.

They only collect and drop off Pathology reports, so really they’re there for a maximum of 5 mins.

Rawhide Kid Part31:47 pm 09 Mar 11

That’s nice if the passenger of the other car is in a wheelchair. Might get scratches the Government Car trying to get into their car.

If it makes you feel any better, any parking tickets incurred by pubes in govvie cars (and they DO get ticketed) have to be paid out of their own pocket.

We had this conversation about the rego inspectors….remember?

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