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Were you hit by the lurgy? Copa the suspect

By johnboy 14 May 2013 68

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2CC is tweeting that 22 people were hospitalised by a food poisoning outbreak over the weekend.

Were you hit? And what have you heard?


UPDATE 14 May 2013 13:10: We’re hearing from multiple sources that the suspect is the new Zeffirellis vehicle Copa. If so one can wonder if Brazilian BBQ is a bit trickier to cook than pasta.


UPDATE 14 May 2013 14:40: Copa have now made a statement on their facebook page:

The Copa has been cooperating with ACT Health to determine the cause of a suspected food health issue over the weekend and once confirmed we will update our patrons with news as soon as possible.

While working with ACT Health, The Copa has taken the opportunity to temporarily close to resolve a ventilation issue that is prohibiting the extraction of smoke caused from cooking over hot coals in the restaurant.

We appreciate your ongoing support and expect to be open as soon as possible.

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UPDATE 14 May 2013 17:50: We appear to have a one-restaurant health crisis underway:


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Skidd Marx 10:44 am 15 May 13

$8 for a chair is a bargain! Just don’t eat it or you’ll get sick.

Thumper 9:02 am 15 May 13

dungfungus said :

OpenYourMind said :

It was the salmon mousse.

You mean the salmonella mouse?

But I didn’t eat the salmon mousse?

dungfungus 8:45 am 15 May 13

OpenYourMind said :

It was the salmon mousse.

You mean the salmonella mouse?

shena 8:41 am 15 May 13

the situation appears to have taken a turn for the worse at the hospital last night….

Emergency response protocols activated at Canberra Hospital in response to outbreak.bit.ly/10EUOzj— ACT Health (@ACTHealth) May 14, 2013

7captains 11:14 pm 14 May 13

breda said :

We don’t know what made people who ate at this restaurant sick. But, people need to get a grip.

For a start, red meat on its own, even if it is old, is pretty safe. The English aristocracy used to hang pheasants and beef for weeks before eating them.

Generally speaking, it is not the bacteria associated with food decomposition that make you sick. Otherwise, how could you eat cheese, yogurt, ham, smoked fish or proper ham? They all rely on decomposition of fresh food, often in conditions that would leave ACT Health clutching their collective pearls …

It sounds like salmonella, could be something else. But, it has nothing to do with barbequing meat, and whether or not it has been cooked too fast or whatever. If the meat is OK, it matters not at all. You could eat it raw without ill-effects – apart from indigestion.

The last time we had this kind of problem, it was the oh-so-groovy Silo. Their poo-encrusted “organic” eggs wreaked havoc with the alimentary canals of diners, some of whom ended up in hospital.

If the meat at this restaurant (and it may have been the salad) made people sick, it was due to contamination, not the age of the food. The rest is mythology

Meat, the eggs in mayo, the bread, vermin droppings in coffee…insert possible theory here….for that many people to be affected is quite serious. Especially in an anal, heavily regulated first world town like Canberra.

I am more than flexible in re-visitng a venue if an eatery has a bad night resulting in bad service, long waiting times etc, even poor ventilation!

But food poisoning is a no-no. There are so many pieces of documentation to complete just to have a food handling license, and if these guys who have been in the industry, and in the same location for so many years can’t get it right, that’s a problem.

If I pay $45, I expect that part of that will go towards the ingredients, wages, overheads, knowing that your food has been prepared and handled properly.

I am pregnant, and so I take a huge risk each time I eat out at the moment, and I pay for my meals with the expectation and good will that the business undertakes BASIC hygiene and food handling seriously, vermin control etc and ensures each of their staff understand this too.

Canberra is too small a place to get away with this, and there are great eateries in this town that are committed to valuing their customer and are making $ without risking their customer’s health.

eh_steve 11:11 pm 14 May 13

Was in Dickson for dinner tonight, looks like they’ve taken the neon sign down so people don’t recognise the brand!

dpm 10:43 pm 14 May 13

I’m loving all the keyboard sleuths on here asserting how it happened! Hahaha!

OverLord 10:26 pm 14 May 13

I can confirm its salmonella.

breda 10:06 pm 14 May 13

We don’t know what made people who ate at this restaurant sick. But, people need to get a grip.

For a start, red meat on its own, even if it is old, is pretty safe. The English aristocracy used to hang pheasants and beef for weeks before eating them.

Generally speaking, it is not the bacteria associated with food decomposition that make you sick. Otherwise, how could you eat cheese, yogurt, ham, smoked fish or proper ham? They all rely on decomposition of fresh food, often in conditions that would leave ACT Health clutching their collective pearls …

It sounds like salmonella, could be something else. But, it has nothing to do with barbequing meat, and whether or not it has been cooked too fast or whatever. If the meat is OK, it matters not at all. You could eat it raw without ill-effects – apart from indigestion.

The last time we had this kind of problem, it was the oh-so-groovy Silo. Their poo-encrusted “organic” eggs wreaked havoc with the alimentary canals of diners, some of whom ended up in hospital.

If the meat at this restaurant (and it may have been the salad) made people sick, it was due to contamination, not the age of the food. The rest is mythology

dtc 8:54 pm 14 May 13

What, no one complaining about nanny state health regulations….

This restaurant can never reopen. It’s probably a disaster for the owner, invested all the money and then this. Not that it’s an excuse but I can understand him being upset,

On the plus side there will be some happy lawyers. All those in hospital, make a claim. Unless, you know, you think lawyers are all thieves and should not be allowed to exist

damien haas 8:51 pm 14 May 13

The ACTGov Health Inspector on ABC666 indicated it was almost certainly related to eggs, as the gastro enteritis was caused by salmonella and not ecoli.

JimCharles 8:46 pm 14 May 13

drfelonious said :

Is anyone familiar in any detail with the way that Brazilian BBQ is prepared?

I mean there is food poisoning and really bad food poisoning and this is not the first time I have heard of Brazilian BBQ being linked to the latter. Would love to know what it is about this style of cooking that might leave the end product more prone to contamination?

It might not be the meat….I’ve not been to this one obviously but at others, they generally have a salad buffet where you just help yourself as a starter
For so many people to be affected it must be something that everybody would have eaten, like a big batch of dodgy coleslaw, dip or unwashed leaves? Depends what they diagnose the illness as really….you can’t imagine that every serving of meat over a few days would be off, but salad isn’t so unusual.

c_c™ 8:42 pm 14 May 13

drfelonious said :

Is anyone familiar in any detail with the way that Brazilian BBQ is prepared?

I mean there is food poisoning and really bad food poisoning and this is not the first time I have heard of Brazilian BBQ being linked to the latter. Would love to know what it is about this style of cooking that might leave the end product more prone to contamination?

It’s basically meat cooked over open flame, and traditionally, it’s big pieces of meat.
It’s put onto skewers and rotated over the flames in something resembling a foosball table with a canopy.

It’s the application of heat to meat, there’s nothing particularly unique in that. Same rules about temperature and separation of different meats still apply. Obviously at some point, temperature control hasn’t been adhered to. And given the style of food is very much aimed at large batches served to groups, that can make a lot of trouble very quickly.

OpenYourMind 8:29 pm 14 May 13

It was the salmon mousse.

screaming banshee 7:49 pm 14 May 13

Mothy said :

Seconded – its somewhere we can take our two year old, they can learn how to behave in a restaurant, and eat some penne while we can have some non-prefabricated pizza without having to endure the sneers of hipsters and wait-staff (or worse, hipster wait staff) at the likes of Firestone or Italian and Sons.

We’ve taken our two boys out to restaurants since day 1, just make sure you bring something along for them to do, stickers are easy, but don’t just stick them with a iPhone to play games all night. The good places know to get the kids meals out early and lots provide bits for colouring. Italian and sons were one of the best, ox eatery, bicicleta, grazing, flint in the vines, courgette, and lanterne rooms have all been good.

My thoughts go to the victims, I’d rather a hundred flu’s then what they going through.

drfelonious 7:42 pm 14 May 13

Is anyone familiar in any detail with the way that Brazilian BBQ is prepared?

I mean there is food poisoning and really bad food poisoning and this is not the first time I have heard of Brazilian BBQ being linked to the latter. Would love to know what it is about this style of cooking that might leave the end product more prone to contamination?

BimboGeek 7:27 pm 14 May 13

pepmeup said :

I’ve heard over 70 people have presented at hospital over this issue, I bet they will be back operating and full again with in weeks. No one will think twice about visiting them

Can anyone actually verify this? A nasty piece of gossip if untrue and a complete disaster if true. 🙁

c_c™ 7:26 pm 14 May 13

johnboy said :

under-trained and rushed is my gut feeling guess.

See this is why I cringed when they announced Jamie Oliver’s restaurant would need 100 staff. Where are they going to find that many who can do a decent job, even the top places in town struggle to hire a couple at a time who can cope.

OverLord 7:19 pm 14 May 13

There is a reason there are food safety standards, and if a restaurant can’t follow the basics, I have zero sympathy for them. I hope they don’t open again. It was bad enough being slowly given an asthma attack due to the lack of ventilation (yes, they did have a problem, the fans weren’t running at all), but not a single staff member commented on it or apologized. That should tell you all you need to know about the amount of care they have for their patrons. I have never been admitted to hospital in my life before, let alone for the intense intestinal pain I am being subjected to. Happy Mothers Day indeed.

thatsnotme 7:05 pm 14 May 13

I ate Brazilian BBQ at Darling Harbour a little while ago, and was excited to see it coming to Canberra. Might be worth leaving it for a special visit to Sydney treat!

ACT Health are saying that the people affected ate there at various times over the weekend, so it’s not like there was just an undercooked piece of meat, their issues obviously extended for days.

All that’s needed now is for an enterprising person to open a competing restaurant, and The Copa could be in all sorts of trouble.

I hope everyone sitting in ED’s at the moment has a swift recovery 🙁

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