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Why does Tony hate science?

By Barcham - 8 November 2013 101

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Under our Dark Lord Abbott’s present public service jobs freeze, the CSIRO look to lose about a quarter of their staff, reports the Syndey Morning Herald.

Thanks to Tony’s plan to cut 12,000 jobs from public servants, the employment of 1,400 non-ongoing CSIRO staff and the research projects they’re working on are threatened. Sadly for these workers with their heads on the block there are no answers for them.

Maybe the Minster for Science could help?

Oh wait… that’s right.

No science minister, no climate change commission, a quarter of CSIRO left to die, the environment minister is not attending the international climate change negotiations in Warsaw, the NBN ripped out from under us… Anyone else feel we are rapidly moving backwards?

What’s next Tony?

How much do you want to bet that by this time next year Tony will have downgraded Medicare so that it only covers the use of leeches and amputation?

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101 Responses to
Why does Tony hate science?
schmeah 1:11 pm 08 Nov 13

mossrocket said :

But the Gov aren’t cutting funding – not a cent less.
The problem is the reliance by the CSIRO on industry investment – and that has dried up.

RiotACT seems to be turning into a very one sided commentary on politics – or maybe I missed all the attacks you guys made on the Labor government and the trouble it caused (which are still having effects like this one)?

Better go back to reading News Ltd then. There are more than enough rags around that seem to hate on the ALP for sport.

BimboGeek 1:03 pm 08 Nov 13

Maybe a scientist once stole his girlfriend. Or his lunch money.

CrocodileGandhi 11:49 am 08 Nov 13

mossrocket said :

But the Gov aren’t cutting funding – not a cent less.
The problem is the reliance by the CSIRO on industry investment – and that has dried up.

Not exactly. The 2013-14 Portfolio Budget Statement for the former DIICCSRTE states the following in relation to CSIRO’s own source revenue: $492m in 13-14, $513m in 14-15, $541m in 15-16 and $564m in 16-17.

Assuming there hasn’t been a marked descrease in future revenue prospects since May, it appears that their industry funding is chugging along nicely. Likewise, their Govt appropriation is also on the rise.

mossrocket 11:44 am 08 Nov 13

Maybe they can just keep suing companies for Wifi royalties?
http://blog.patentology.com.au/2012/04/story-behind-csiros-wi-fi-patent.html

Deref 11:40 am 08 Nov 13

Got Jezuz. Don’t need no steenkin’ science.

The reason is that science provides refutation for pretty much every policy that Abbott and his mob of far-right reactionaries want to implement.

Not that Labor was much better of course.

How many politicians are scientists? How many are lawyers?

switch 11:32 am 08 Nov 13

Science, unfortunately, is a very easy target. All governments know this and act accordingly.

dtc 11:19 am 08 Nov 13

Genie said :

People who have NON-ONGOING contracts are whinging they are losing their jobs ?

But but.. they’re NON-ONGOING….

I give up !

Only ‘non ongoing’ because the funding for science means that the grant may not be renewed, or may be reduced or whatever. This is why there are so many contractors at CSIRO – projects here today may not be here tomorrow, so effectively people are hired as casuals when there is the money.

Now CSIRO is being told ‘you cant have full timers’ (because of the funding variations) and, oh, you cant have contractors either.

In general, non ongoing staff will have an expectation that their 12 month contract (say) will continue if the project is continuing. Just like a casual worker might expect that they will continue to have a job while the store is open (performance criteria met, of course).

There is a whole different world out there to how people ensconced in comfortable full time jobs see the world.

mossrocket 11:19 am 08 Nov 13

From the article:
The problems with CSIRO were already occurring before the change in government. One third of CSIRO budget is obtained from external sources and that is down, so either staff will be cut or the federal government will need to put in more money. Nowhere is there any statement that the funding by the federal government has been reduced.

HiddenDragon 11:16 am 08 Nov 13

davo101 said :

CSIRO has had the thumb screws applied to it by the Keating, Howard, Rudd, and Gillard governments. Not sure why you would have expected an Abbott government to be any different.

Cuts to science and research was my first disappointment with the Rudd Government, particularly after all the talk about the need to be a smarter, more competitive nation. I imagine there are large, world-leading companies, which spend as much, or more, on research than the total Australian spending – let’s just hope the rest of the world keeps buying our minerals.

neanderthalsis 11:03 am 08 Nov 13

Writing like that, Barcham, might get you a job with New Matilda or the Green Left…

First, no Minister for Science; Ian MacFarlane is the Minister for Industry, under his portfolio responsibility is Science. Just because a Minister and Department doesn’t have a 20 letter unpronounceable acronym, doesn’t mean they don’t cover it.

Second, the CSIRO cuts are ill informed speculation and scare mongering.

mossrocket 11:03 am 08 Nov 13

But the Gov aren’t cutting funding – not a cent less.
The problem is the reliance by the CSIRO on industry investment – and that has dried up.

RiotACT seems to be turning into a very one sided commentary on politics – or maybe I missed all the attacks you guys made on the Labor government and the trouble it caused (which are still having effects like this one)?

Roksteddy 11:01 am 08 Nov 13

It is easier to ignore the science if there aren’t any scientists

Genie 11:00 am 08 Nov 13

People who have NON-ONGOING contracts are whinging they are losing their jobs ?

But but.. they’re NON-ONGOING….

I give up !

davo101 10:39 am 08 Nov 13

CSIRO has had the thumb screws applied to it by the Keating, Howard, Rudd, and Gillard governments. Not sure why you would have expected an Abbott government to be any different.

CrocodileGandhi 10:35 am 08 Nov 13

He’s a traditionalist, you see. Paleolithic man did just fine without science.

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